Shams: Kevin Love Signing with Miami Heat

[jbk1234]

I'll be shocked if he doesn't end up with the Heat. He doesn't ask for a buyout without a promise of real playing time.

[Tor_Raps]

This is a bit disapointing.
Love has been through all the ups and downs with Cleveland. Now they're on the rise and already a fringe contender in their first year with this core. Love was going to be a part of that, until his thumb injury made him unable to shoot.

Why would another team want Love if Cleveland is basically announcing: he can't help with out playoff run this year? If Cleveland saw any chance for him to be a positive contributor, they'd keep him, rather than letting him bolster a potential playoff rival.

There are teams that need frontcourt depth. Miami and Phoenix standout. But is there any real chance that Love can provide value if he's struggling to catch and shoot?

I also want to add my puzzlement to the Lakers winning this poll. They're struggling as it is to make any ground against OKC for a play-in spot. They also have TONS of frontcourt players now with Rui, Mo Bamba and Vanderbilt joining AD and Gabriel. Lebron also plays the 4/5 whenever they want that look. I see no room for Love on this team, and no reason for him to leave a contending team to join the Lakers play-in push.

Mehh its alot different going from sage veteran playing 15min a night cheering on the starters to all of the sudden ur the grey haired towel boy racking up DNP's with noobs like Cedi Osman playing over you. Cant blame him at all , if u play sports u know it sapps ur morale if u never play . We are about ti go thru it now with Lonnie Walker squeezed out the rotation

He has a broken thumb on his shooting hand. He can't shoot or catch right now. He didn't get squeezed out of a rotation. He's injured enough that he can't contribute.

So then he should have had surgery and came back to help when ready. Not like we're talking about a torn ACL.

[djsunyc]

if you're an over the cap team, you need expirings for deals since you won't sign UFA's. they needed to punt the expiring another year if need be by taking on 1 or 2 players, even if they're duds and won't play.

[VanWest82]

Lebron put out the bat signal

[toooskies]

really poor use of an expiring asset by the cavs.

They're historically bad for this, see JR Smith, Drummond, Thompson etc.

No kidding. The Lakers got 3 good rotational players for Westbrooks contract and a pick... Cavs could have gotten something good for sure.

Cavs had no pick to bundle. Only thing they might've made a run at is Gordon Hayward for 2nds.

[Tor_Raps]

They're historically bad for this, see JR Smith, Drummond, Thompson etc.

No kidding. The Lakers got 3 good rotational players for Westbrooks contract and a pick... Cavs could have gotten something good for sure.

Cavs had no pick to bundle. Only thing they might've made a run at is Gordon Hayward for 2nds.

Ya my point was that they could have gotten something useful for that contract. They didn't need to attach a pick to get 3 assets, just needed one 3 and D SF. A guy like Crowder would have been perfect. Just a horrible misuse of assets for a team in championship contention.

[jbk1234]

No kidding. The Lakers got 3 good rotational players for Westbrooks contract and a pick... Cavs could have gotten something good for sure.

Cavs had no pick to bundle. Only thing they might've made a run at is Gordon Hayward for 2nds.

Ya my point was that they could have gotten something useful for that contract. They didn't need to attach a pick to get 3 assets, just needed one 3 and D SF. A guy like Crowder would have been perfect. Just a horrible misuse of assets for a team in championship contention.

Setting aside the fact that Crowder hadn't played in 8 months as is crazy overrated, the Nets wouldn't even take back the minimum matching deals the Bucks sent out. THJ was the only reported offer for the Cavs expiring deals, and his contract is a year too long to mess with.

[Mamba Mentality]

Warriors already got GP back now they’ll get Love to do some of the things OPJ did on last years championship team.

[Wilfried]

If he's really interested in joining a contender, why would Lakers and Heat be involved in this poll?

[BuckFan25226]

Let's be honest, the Heat are solid but no one believes they are coming anywhere close to making it out if the East.

[Big_Aristotle]

He either goes to a real contender (Bucks, Suns, Nuggets) or goes to LA.

[slicedbread2]

Cavs had no pick to bundle. Only thing they might've made a run at is Gordon Hayward for 2nds.

Ya my point was that they could have gotten something useful for that contract. They didn't need to attach a pick to get 3 assets, just needed one 3 and D SF. A guy like Crowder would have been perfect. Just a horrible misuse of assets for a team in championship contention.

Setting aside the fact that Crowder hadn't played in 8 months as is crazy overrated, the Nets wouldn't even take back the minimum matching deals the Bucks sent out. THJ was the only reported offer for the Cavs expiring deals, and his contract is a year too long to mess with.

I think if there was one opportunity that could've been considered it could've been a 3 way deal with Brooklyn and San Antonio where Cleveland would send whatever 2nds they had left to deal to SA while the Spurs helped Brooklyn get under the tax as getting under it would not only save them an additional $12M(their tax bill prior to dismantling the core was $108M) but they'd be able to reset the tax the following season and pay Cam Johnson his money in a following deal:

Cleveland: Joe Harris, Royce O'Neale, Doug McDermott, Seth Curry
Brooklyn: Caris Levert, Dylan Windler, Romeo Langford
San Antonio: Kevin Love, Patty Mills, whatever 2nds the Cavaliers have left to deal.

-Cleveland recirculates expiring salary to help out their bench. Harris is still recovering from injury but it'd be worth a try while McDermott would thrive on a contender and O'Neale is the perfect 3+D wing.
-Brooklyn gets under the tax while clearing $36M in cap space to use to not only give Cam Johnson his new contract but most importantly get the slots for their own pick+Phoenix's in this upcoming draft. May have to throw in Okoro into this deal as his development has stagnated(honestly thought he'd play better this year)
-San Antonio gets an old face back in Mills while buying out Love using their remaining cap space and accumulating more draft capital in the process.

Yea this deal would never have happened but if they were ultimately gonna buyout Love they should've sent him to a team where not only would they had bought him out but more importantly they could've recirculated his salary as they'll have no cap space going forward and will be limited to their MLE and BAE barring any unexpected diamonds in the rough emerging from the 2nd round/g-league.

[mcfly1204]

Friendly reminder that these organizations know what they are doing more than we do.

[jbk1234]

Ya my point was that they could have gotten something useful for that contract. They didn't need to attach a pick to get 3 assets, just needed one 3 and D SF. A guy like Crowder would have been perfect. Just a horrible misuse of assets for a team in championship contention.

Setting aside the fact that Crowder hadn't played in 8 months as is crazy overrated, the Nets wouldn't even take back the minimum matching deals the Bucks sent out. THJ was the only reported offer for the Cavs expiring deals, and his contract is a year too long to mess with.

I think if there was one opportunity that could've been considered it could've been a 3 way deal with Brooklyn and San Antonio where Cleveland would send whatever 2nds they had left to deal to SA while the Spurs helped Brooklyn get under the tax as getting under it would not only save them an additional $12M(their tax bill prior to dismantling the core was $108M) but they'd be able to reset the tax the following season and pay Cam Johnson his money in a following deal:

Cleveland: Joe Harris, Royce O'Neale, Doug McDermott, Seth Curry
Brooklyn: Caris Levert, Dylan Windler, Romeo Langford
San Antonio: Kevin Love, Patty Mills, whatever 2nds the Cavaliers have left to deal.

-Cleveland recirculates expiring salary to help out their bench. Harris is still recovering from injury but it'd be worth a try while McDermott would thrive on a contender and O'Neale is the perfect 3+D wing.
-Brooklyn gets under the tax while clearing $36M in cap space to use to not only give Cam Johnson his new contract but most importantly get the slots for their own pick+Phoenix's in this upcoming draft. May have to throw in Okoro into this deal as his development has stagnated(honestly thought he'd play better this year)
-San Antonio gets an old face back in Mills while buying out Love using their remaining cap space and accumulating more draft capital in the process.

Yea this deal would never have happened but if they were ultimately gonna buyout Love they should've sent him to a team where not only would they had bought him out but more importantly they could've recirculated his salary as they'll have no cap space going forward and will be limited to their MLE and BAE barring any unexpected diamonds in the rough emerging from the 2nd round/g-league.

Altman said the Nets wanted *more than a first* for Royce and that they tried very hard to get something done. It sounds like that after being forced to trade two superstars with a proverbial gun to their head a week before the deadline, the Nets weren't exactly in a deal-making mood.

[MavsDirk41]

I think he goes to Phoenix

[slicedbread2]

Setting aside the fact that Crowder hadn't played in 8 months as is crazy overrated, the Nets wouldn't even take back the minimum matching deals the Bucks sent out. THJ was the only reported offer for the Cavs expiring deals, and his contract is a year too long to mess with.

I think if there was one opportunity that could've been considered it could've been a 3 way deal with Brooklyn and San Antonio where Cleveland would send whatever 2nds they had left to deal to SA while the Spurs helped Brooklyn get under the tax as getting under it would not only save them an additional $12M(their tax bill prior to dismantling the core was $108M) but they'd be able to reset the tax the following season and pay Cam Johnson his money in a following deal:

Cleveland: Joe Harris, Royce O'Neale, Doug McDermott, Seth Curry
Brooklyn: Caris Levert, Dylan Windler, Romeo Langford
San Antonio: Kevin Love, Patty Mills, whatever 2nds the Cavaliers have left to deal.

-Cleveland recirculates expiring salary to help out their bench. Harris is still recovering from injury but it'd be worth a try while McDermott would thrive on a contender and O'Neale is the perfect 3+D wing.
-Brooklyn gets under the tax while clearing $36M in cap space to use to not only give Cam Johnson his new contract but most importantly get the slots for their own pick+Phoenix's in this upcoming draft. May have to throw in Okoro into this deal as his development has stagnated(honestly thought he'd play better this year)
-San Antonio gets an old face back in Mills while buying out Love using their remaining cap space and accumulating more draft capital in the process.

Yea this deal would never have happened but if they were ultimately gonna buyout Love they should've sent him to a team where not only would they had bought him out but more importantly they could've recirculated his salary as they'll have no cap space going forward and will be limited to their MLE and BAE barring any unexpected diamonds in the rough emerging from the 2nd round/g-league.

Altman said the Nets wanted *more than a first* for Royce and that they tried very hard to get something done. It sounds like that after being forced to trade two superstars with a proverbial gun to their head a week before the deadline, the Nets weren't exactly in a deal-making mood.

Damn well makes sense I suppose. Plus it doesn't help that the Nets next 5 picks are in the control of Houston so that's rough.

If that were the case I would've tried SA and nab Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott from them with whatever 2nds the Cavaliers had because those 2 could've provided additional scoring for a bench that needs it not to mention J-Rich could be a better upgrade over Levert but alas.

Honestly feels sad that it's ending this way but hopefully Love will have his number retired in Cleveland. Interesting fact: his uncle and Father are cousins to the Wilson Brothers(beach boys fame with his uncle being a member and his Father having gotten Brian Wilson clean of drugs).

[enigmatics]

Friendly reminder that these organizations know what they are doing more than we do.

Nice appeal to authority you got there.

[EArl]

Not necessarily a contender, but come back to LA Kev.

[TheLand13]

I love how people are acting like trading Kevin Love was something that was easy to do. The guy hasn't played in Cleveland's last ten games now and everyone thinks we could have gotten something useful out of him via trade. Y'all are delusional.

[toooskies]

If the Cavs think Love will go to an eastern conference team like Miami, they'll simply not grant his buyout request-- unless they have a replacement in mind.

With the way Wade has been playing offensively, I could see the Cavs being willing to try him in the rotation again. Possibly release him before the playoff roster deadline (March 1) if his shot doesn't look close to being back. That only gives him three games, though.