Mavericks brain fart

[CobraCommander]

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up. I don’t know what’s there to argue about.

Didn’t think about that.....are you sure.

If it’s true that the ball would be taken out under the basket anyway then it doesn’t matter and the mavs will lose this.

But how does a bad call in the 3rd quarter of a regular season basketball game that cost two points in a game that went to 125-127 get more scrutiny than NFL games in the playoffs where one play at the end of the game (twice) decides the super bowl champ - doesn’t get get replayed?

If Cuban wins this Philly and the Bills gonna be very very depressed

I don’t understand why you are talking about the NFL?

But yes I’m sure, it was an out-of-bounds play. The team with possession will in bound the ball where it went out of bound. Which was underneath the Mavs basket. There was no reason for the mavs to be on the other side of the court.

I’m talking to football because basketball and football are sports where just this year questionable calls potentially changed the outcome of the game and a season-

If you a Mavs fan or owner or player - I assume you feel like this call was an injustice that may change the outcome of the season… not just this game.

See the similarities now?

[TinmanZBoy]

Bottom line - the ref should have held the ball to make sure the Mavs coach and players knew that it was Warriors ball. To just hand it to the Warriors when it's very clear that the Mavs are confused was stupid. It doesn't have to be in the rulebook to do the right thing. The right thing was to make sure the Mavs knew whose ball it was and where. There was obviously confusion on the Mavs side.

Also, while the Warriors knew it was their ball, initially Looney also thought the ref was calling it Mavs ball and started complaining to the ref. Then the ref explained it to Looney, and most likely Looney communicated that to Kerr and the rest of the team. Meanwhile the Mavs just assumed it was their ball because they saw the ref signal twice in the Mavs' direction - once with his hand up, and another time while pointing. Once Looney made that protest, the ref should have immediately known that there was confusion about the call, and made it clear to both benches whose ball it was.

Why the Mavs weren't at that end to inbound it is beyond me. My guess is they froze because they were confused that all the Warriors players were lining up on that side of the court. So maybe they didn't think the game was restarting yet. I don't know.

Also, LOL @ Jason Kidd.

Second this

[TheBobster]

Likely timeline -

Referee signals Golden State possesson
Referee signals mandatory Dallas timeout
Dallas coaching staff misinterpreted timout signal since it was a mandatory timeout rather than one they requested
Dallas coaching staff calls play assuming they have possession
Dallas players are confused and they lineup with noone to inbound the ball or receive inbounds pass
Referee puts ball in play with Dallas still unprepared for inbound play

The only real questions are did the referee signal that the ball was in play and why was Dallas not prepared to either play defense or inbound the ball?

[skones]

The Mavs are literally waiting at half court to pick up their defensive assignments upon the inbound. I don't buy that the players thought it was their ball.

Nah. As soon as the ref started handing the ball to the Warriors player for the inbounds - and BEFORE it was actually inbounded and Looney scored - multiple Mavs players raise their arms as if to say "WTF are you doing?"

The area in which they're standing says more than anything. You don't stand in that area if you're lining up on offense. Justin Holiday literally starts back pedaling to play defense when the ball is inbounded. One Mavs player raises an issue, the other gives the "ole college try run back and play defense look way too late.

[bisme37]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

[Ckay]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

Kidd drew a play and no one question it.

[CptCrunch]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

It has to be last 2 min of 4th or OT to advance.

There is no logical explanation of why Mavs on the left side of the court (relative to the camera feed we have now).

Other than JKidd not knowing the rules OR Mavs were coming back from timeout and weren't in position to defend the inbound.

[Archx]

Luka and Cuban are a match made in heaven, it's always someone else's fault when they fall short.

Weird thing to say since Luka always takes the blame after the game for a loss.

[art_tatum]

My biggest problem with all this is why the warriors didn't take a 3. With 4 rebounders there.

[ITYSL]

The Mavs are literally waiting at half court to pick up their defensive assignments upon the inbound. I don't buy that the players thought it was their ball.

Nah. As soon as the ref started handing the ball to the Warriors player for the inbounds - and BEFORE it was actually inbounded and Looney scored - multiple Mavs players raise their arms as if to say "WTF are you doing?"

The area in which they're standing says more than anything. You don't stand in that area if you're lining up on offense. Justin Holiday literally starts back pedaling to play defense when the ball is inbounded. One Mavs player raises an issue, the other gives the "ole college try run back and play defense look way too late.

Hardy and Green were both raising their arms in confusion at the ref before Looney scored. They were clearly confused about the ref handing the ball to the Warriors, not about what basket they were supposed to defend.

[bisme37]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

It has to be last 2 min of 4th or OT to advance.

There is no logical explanation of why Mavs on the left side of the court (relative to the camera feed we have now).

Other than JKidd not knowing the rules OR Mavs were coming back from timeout and weren't in position to defend the inbound.

Lol good point. Very weird.

[mademan]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

It has to be last 2 min of 4th or OT to advance.

There is no logical explanation of why Mavs on the left side of the court (relative to the camera feed we have now).

Other than JKidd not knowing the rules OR Mavs were coming back from timeout and weren't in position to defend the inbound.

eh. There's a decent explanation. GSW players were still on that side, so the Mavs thought there was some kind of delay, so they remained on their side as theyre supposed to do in those types of situations. I wouldnt say its a brain fart, if they thought it was genuinely their ball, theres a reasonable possibility they would act this way.

[CptCrunch]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

It has to be last 2 min of 4th or OT to advance.

There is no logical explanation of why Mavs on the left side of the court (relative to the camera feed we have now).

Other than JKidd not knowing the rules OR Mavs were coming back from timeout and weren't in position to defend the inbound.

eh. There's a decent explanation. GSW players were still on that side, so the Mavs thought there was some kind of delay, so they remained on their side as theyre supposed to do in those types of situations. I wouldnt say its a brain fart, if they thought it was genuinely their ball, theres a reasonable possibility they would act this way.

This occured after a timeout so they lined up incorrectly after. There is only two scenario.

Mavs players/Kidd thought they could advanced the ball and lined up on the wrong side (left).

Mavs players/Kidd knew which side they should on (right). Regardless of whose ball it was, the ball should have been inbounded by the right side. For whatever reason that they were not on the right side (not ready, thought there was delay, etc) the refs shouldn't have inbounded the ball the Warriors.

[hardenASG13]

I was confused about why the Mavs weren't set up to inbound the ball if they thought it was their ball. But after the timeout the ball would have advanced, so that's what they were thinking and why they were on the other side of the court.

Weirdest part to me is just how one entire team knew what was going on and the other entire team didn't.

I mean I guess the refs could have noticed the Mavs were confused and waited a few seconds. But I think it's more on the Mavs coaching staff for having no idea whose ball it was and not correctly informing the players. The other team knew so it's not like it was a huge secret.

Would the ball have advanced there on an out of bounds in the 3rd quarter? I don't think it does.

[leolozon]

It has to be last 2 min of 4th or OT to advance.

There is no logical explanation of why Mavs on the left side of the court (relative to the camera feed we have now).

Other than JKidd not knowing the rules OR Mavs were coming back from timeout and weren't in position to defend the inbound.

eh. There's a decent explanation. GSW players were still on that side, so the Mavs thought there was some kind of delay, so they remained on their side as theyre supposed to do in those types of situations. I wouldnt say its a brain fart, if they thought it was genuinely their ball, theres a reasonable possibility they would act this way.

This occured after a timeout so they lined up incorrectly after. There is only two scenario.

Mavs players/Kidd thought they could advanced the ball and lined up on the wrong side (left).

Mavs players/Kidd knew which side they should on (right). Regardless of whose ball it was, the ball should have been inbounded by the right side. For whatever reason that they were not on the right side (not ready, thought there was delay, etc) the refs shouldn't have inbounded the ball the Warriors.

Yes, in the end the ref didn’t do his job properly by inbounding the ball too fast.

1-The announcers said it was Mavs’ ball. It should have been enough for them to make sure that everyone was kn the same page.

2- One ref was with the Mavs, how could they have thought that the ball was going to get inbounded? I’m not sure what the ref was thinking when he decided to create such a problem for no reason.

[Nate505]

So Dallas thought it was their ball after the timeout...but not enough to actually send a guy over to inbound it. Makes total sense.

[mademan]

ya and it looks like all the refs werent even on the same page as one of the refs was at the same end of the court as the Mavs, lmao. Just a complete chit show

[KyRo23]

Not buying this excuse by the Mavs. They didn't even have anyone to inbound the ball or receive the inbound pass. They were just on the wrong side

[azcatz11]

Not buying this excuse by the Mavs. They didn't even have anyone to inbound the ball or receive the inbound pass. They were just on the wrong side

Why were they on the wrong side though? This has never happened in NBA history

[Kobeskillz]

Not buying this excuse by the Mavs. They didn't even have anyone to inbound the ball or receive the inbound pass. They were just on the wrong side

Why were they on the wrong side though? This has never happened in NBA history

I remember a Kobe play where they tricked the Hornets to be on the wrong side. Not the same but that came to mind.