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Dont even feel bad tbh.
The cameroon buffoon was falling over the place again. Same way he hurt his own teammate last year in the playoffs.
Kicking people. Falling on his backside with flops. Now hes out.
He looked tired and out of it before getting hurt anyways. He just can't hold up in the playoffs. Not that guy.
A certain nuggets center has been a lot better so far.
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The cameroon buffoon was falling over the place again. Same way he hurt his own teammate last year in the playoffs.
Kicking people. Falling on his backside with flops. Now hes out.
He looked tired and out of it before getting hurt anyways. He just can't hold up in the playoffs. Not that guy.
A certain nuggets center has been a lot better so far.
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GeorgeMarcus wrote:Lunartic wrote:HotelVitale wrote:
Eh, you could also just do yourself a favor and get over the fact that he falls down a lot, and pay attention to the 98% of other things he's involved in on the court. He's tall and falls down, and he complains to the refs like the vast majority of other stars. Got it, we've read hundreds of posts that have said that now.
Not even defending Embiid, as a Sixers fan all that stuff is immature and somewhere between annoying and greatly damaging to the team. But it is also pretty superficial, and we're about to see a really really good test of who Embiid the player is. And him falling down isn't going to have much to do with that (almost none of his injuries have involved anything falling would be relevant for, let alone being caused by an unnecessary fall).
Why did you start your sentence with "eh"?
I'm over the fact that he's a massive flopper, hence why I have formed my opinion on him. I don't know what you want me to do other than change my opinion of him becuase you're tired of having your star player be criticized for his dangerous and pathetic behavior.
Minimizing it as "he complains to refs" and "falls down alot" is exactly what I expect an Embiid apologist to do, I get it- he's on your team.
No different hat GSW fans defending Draymond every time he kicked some guy in the balls or stomps on a guys chest or same as Rockets fans defending Harden's non-stop flopping. Minimize,minimize, minimize.
To put it simply- I don't care that Joel Robinette Embiid has an ouchie, he's borderline unwatchable and his style of play is ruining the game.
You're not "over" **** compadre or else you wouldn't spend so much time bringing up Embiid the way you do. Other signs of clear emotional triggering would be using the word "crybaby" for someone who has cried exactly one time in the public eye. Did you call Kobe a crybaby when he cried after his playoff elimination? Probably not because this ain't about objective assessment, it's a targeted narrative you most likely attached yourself to a ways back and now feel obligated to defend until the end of time
Bringing him up? Do you know where you are? It's a thread on a basketball forum specifically about Embiid.
I didn't bring him up out of the ether, I posted my opinion in a thread about him. If you make a post critical of another player in a thread about said player, surely I won't be there to insist that you're "not over him" which I didn't even know what that means. Embiid is an NBA player and I have formed my opinion on him.
Don't make this weird with your undergrad pop-psych analysis, it's just basketball.
Perhaps it's a genuine disconnect in language or reading ability. Me saying that Embiid is a flopper isn't proof that I'm obsessed with him or whatever else you're insinuating.
When I use the word crybaby in reference to Embiid I'm referring to his constant crying and whining to refs anytime he doesn't get a favorable whistle. Hence why I call players like LeBron/Luka/Trae crybabies as well, has zero to do with him actually bawling after getting bounced from the playoffs.
"Don't be such a crybaby"
Doesn't actually refer to someone necessarily spilling tears it just means they complain a lot
You're a smartish type guy, you should know this and the only reason you wouldn't is weird "I must defend Embiid" homer nonsense clouding your cognitions.
It's actually kind of interesting how cliquish the few Sixers fans are on the General board, hyper sensitivity to any possible slights or criticism of Embiid.
" Nooo u can't call him a flopper bro ur psychologically disturbed and now you're caught in a 3 year cycle of calling him a flopper!"
Just straight weirdness out of you guys
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Don't know if one can win a championship with a player like Embiid in the playoffs. I'd take Giannis and Jimmy over him in the East.
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FlyingArrow wrote:The High Cyde wrote:He’s bound to injure himself falling to the ground 32 times a game
With his bulk and speed, falling is going to be safer for him in a lot of cases. Stopping short and putting his full weight at an awkward angle - that is more likely to end in an injury than a controlled fall.
So many of these plays he's not even in the air. He's just falling from the slightest bit of contact
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I’m more suspicious it’s not a more serious injury when doc rivers says 50% chance embiid is able to play game 1 (assume it’s next Saturday). The knee injury will severely affect embiid lift for his mid range shot. Or any lateral movements.
I only give the sixers a 30% chance of winning vs Boston with healthy embiid.
So unless maxey wins one game by himself (he’s capable) to steal a game. But maxey has not been good vs Celtics.
Harden with one week of rest will look better.
I only give the sixers a 30% chance of winning vs Boston with healthy embiid.
So unless maxey wins one game by himself (he’s capable) to steal a game. But maxey has not been good vs Celtics.
Harden with one week of rest will look better.
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LordCovington33 wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:XtremeDunkz wrote:All of your good players left your irrelevant franchise.
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And Harden is about to leave yours followed by Embiid
Embiid leaving is nonsense talk backed up with no facts. Even if Harden leaves, we essentially got him for free during the trade which your team ended getting fleeced.
Exactly. Simmons has the worst, most untradable contract in the NBA.
Thanks, Sean!
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
And Harden is about to leave yours followed by Embiid
Embiid leaving is nonsense talk backed up with no facts. Even if Harden leaves, we essentially got him for free during the trade which your team ended getting fleeced.
Getting Harden for free isnt worth it. 30 million for a role player.
You could have had Haiburton who is better.
That has been thoroughly vetted on various Sixeers forums, and I will do the same "put up or shut up" to you that I have put to others with that ish.
Please post a link to a reputable NBA source (Shams, Woj, etc.) that CATAGORICALLY STATES that 1) The Sixers were actually offered Haliburton for Simmons, and 2) that they turned it down.
No "well, I read some tweet where Haliburton's agent said he was going to Philly" garbage, because if that is the case, I seem to recall Ben Simmons "checking out Houston real estate" - but DID HE GET TRADED TO HOUSTON? HUH?
McNair is too smart to trade Haliburton for Simmons, and he got the MUCH better player in Sabonis. Now, did he float some Simmons ish out there to force Indiana to make Sabonis available? Maybe. But that is NBA GM'ing 101...and I hope to God you understand that happens in the trade game; my sense is you are a reasonably good NBA observer.
Please post that "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons" ling from a non-jabroni source. Thanks.
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kuclas wrote:I’m more suspicious it’s not a more serious injury when doc rivers says 50% chance embiid is able to play game 1 (assume it’s next Saturday). The knee injury will severely affect embiid lift for his mid range shot. Or any lateral movements.
I only give the sixers a 30% chance of winning vs Boston with healthy embiid.
So unless maxey wins one game by himself (he’s capable) to steal a game. But maxey has not been good vs Celtics.
Harden with one week of rest will look better.
I thought Harden looked good last night. He had no problem getting to the rim and breaking ankles. He just did a crappy job of finishing bunnies. He could have had 25 points easily if he finishes 3-4 of those.
He looked fine.
Now, to be fair, Boston's defense is on another level.
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bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Embiid leaving is nonsense talk backed up with no facts. Even if Harden leaves, we essentially got him for free during the trade which your team ended getting fleeced.
Getting Harden for free isnt worth it. 30 million for a role player.
You could have had Haiburton who is better.
That has been thoroughly vetted on various Sixeers forums, and I will do the same "put up or shut up" to you that I have put to others with that ish.
Please post a link to a reputable NBA source (Shams, Woj, etc.) that CATAGORICALLY STATES that 1) The Sixers were actually offered Haliburton for Simmons, and 2) that they turned it down.
No "well, I read some tweet where Haliburton's agent said he was going to Philly" garbage, because if that is the case, I seem to recall Ben Simmons "checking out Houston real estate" - but DID HE GET TRADED TO HOUSTON? HUH?
McNair is too smart to trade Haliburton for Simmons, and he got the MUCH better player in Sabonis. Now, did he float some Simmons ish out there to force Indiana to make Sabonis available? Maybe. But that is NBA GM'ing 101...and I hope to God you understand that happens in the trade game; my sense is you are a reasonably good NBA observer.
Please post that "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons" ling from a non-jabroni source. Thanks.
Well said. Just a random fan reaching
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bebopdeluxe wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
And Harden is about to leave yours followed by Embiid
Embiid leaving is nonsense talk backed up with no facts. Even if Harden leaves, we essentially got him for free during the trade which your team ended getting fleeced.
Exactly. Simmons has the worst, most untradable contract in the NBA.
Thanks, Sean!
Revisionist history.
He is now. Not at the time.
You traded him for a 30 mullion dollar role player who cokes in the playoffs. Obviously worth it still.
But overall not good value.
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bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Embiid leaving is nonsense talk backed up with no facts. Even if Harden leaves, we essentially got him for free during the trade which your team ended getting fleeced.
Getting Harden for free isnt worth it. 30 million for a role player.
You could have had Haiburton who is better.
That has been thoroughly vetted on various Sixeers forums, and I will do the same "put up or shut up" to you that I have put to others with that ish.
Please post a link to a reputable NBA source (Shams, Woj, etc.) that CATAGORICALLY STATES that 1) The Sixers were actually offered Haliburton for Simmons, and 2) that they turned it down.
No "well, I read some tweet where Haliburton's agent said he was going to Philly" garbage, because if that is the case, I seem to recall Ben Simmons "checking out Houston real estate" - but DID HE GET TRADED TO HOUSTON? HUH?
McNair is too smart to trade Haliburton for Simmons, and he got the MUCH better player in Sabonis. Now, did he float some Simmons ish out there to force Indiana to make Sabonis available? Maybe. But that is NBA GM'ing 101...and I hope to God you understand that happens in the trade game; my sense is you are a reasonably good NBA observer.
Please post that "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons" ling from a non-jabroni source. Thanks.
I don't have to post a link. That is bull.
Simmons was coming off All NBA and DPOY. The idea that the Kings would trade Haliburton for Sabonis and not Simmons. Who at the time was considered way better is obious.
Yes Sabonis is better now. Simmons was better at the time.
Even trading him for a Malcolm Brodgon based package would be better than a washed Harden.
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Getting Harden for free isnt worth it. 30 million for a role player.
You could have had Haiburton who is better.
That has been thoroughly vetted on various Sixeers forums, and I will do the same "put up or shut up" to you that I have put to others with that ish.
Please post a link to a reputable NBA source (Shams, Woj, etc.) that CATAGORICALLY STATES that 1) The Sixers were actually offered Haliburton for Simmons, and 2) that they turned it down.
No "well, I read some tweet where Haliburton's agent said he was going to Philly" garbage, because if that is the case, I seem to recall Ben Simmons "checking out Houston real estate" - but DID HE GET TRADED TO HOUSTON? HUH?
McNair is too smart to trade Haliburton for Simmons, and he got the MUCH better player in Sabonis. Now, did he float some Simmons ish out there to force Indiana to make Sabonis available? Maybe. But that is NBA GM'ing 101...and I hope to God you understand that happens in the trade game; my sense is you are a reasonably good NBA observer.
Please post that "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons" ling from a non-jabroni source. Thanks.
I don't have to post a link. That is bull.
Simmons was coming off All NBA and DPOY. The idea that the Kings would trade Haliburton for Sabonis and not Simmons. Who at the time was considered way better is obious.
Yes Sabonis is better now. Simmons was better at the time.
Even trading him for a Malcolm Brodgon based package would be better than a washed Harden.
Just like I thought. YOU HAVE NOTHING.
Just like EVERY OTHER PERSON who posted this ridiculous "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons!" ish.
Join the club.
And, by the way, in 2021 Simmons was NOT coming off of an All-NBA season. That was after the 2019-20 season. After the 2021 season, Simmons was coming off of UTTERLY VANISHING in the 2nd half of EVERY GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS.
To argue that, approaching the trade deadline in 2022, that Simmons had more value than Sabonis is ridiculous. Simmons was utterly embarrassed in the 2021 playoffs, he took his ball and went home to play COD, and was being ridiculed throughout the NBA. Meanwhile, before being traded to Sacramento, Sabonis had played 47 games for the Pacers and was averaging 18.9 ppg, 12.1 rbg, 5 apg, 1.5 stocks/game, with an eFG of 61%.
McNair - at the 2022 trade deadline - traded for the better, more valuable player. But you know that.
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bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:
That has been thoroughly vetted on various Sixeers forums, and I will do the same "put up or shut up" to you that I have put to others with that ish.
Please post a link to a reputable NBA source (Shams, Woj, etc.) that CATAGORICALLY STATES that 1) The Sixers were actually offered Haliburton for Simmons, and 2) that they turned it down.
No "well, I read some tweet where Haliburton's agent said he was going to Philly" garbage, because if that is the case, I seem to recall Ben Simmons "checking out Houston real estate" - but DID HE GET TRADED TO HOUSTON? HUH?
McNair is too smart to trade Haliburton for Simmons, and he got the MUCH better player in Sabonis. Now, did he float some Simmons ish out there to force Indiana to make Sabonis available? Maybe. But that is NBA GM'ing 101...and I hope to God you understand that happens in the trade game; my sense is you are a reasonably good NBA observer.
Please post that "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons" ling from a non-jabroni source. Thanks.
I don't have to post a link. That is bull.
Simmons was coming off All NBA and DPOY. The idea that the Kings would trade Haliburton for Sabonis and not Simmons. Who at the time was considered way better is obious.
Yes Sabonis is better now. Simmons was better at the time.
Even trading him for a Malcolm Brodgon based package would be better than a washed Harden.
Just like I thought. YOU HAVE NOTHING.
Just like EVERY OTHER PERSON who posted this ridiculous "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons!" ish.
Join the club.
And, by the way, in 2021 Simmons was NOT coming off of an All-NBA season. That was after the 2019-20 season. After the 2021 season, Simmons was coming off of UTTERLY VANISHING in the 2nd half of EVERY GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS.
To argue that, approaching the trade deadline in 2022, that Simmons had more value than Sabonis is ridiculous. Simmons was utterly embarrassed in the 2021 playoffs, he took his ball and went home to play COD, and was being ridiculed throughout the NBA. Meanwhile, before being traded to Sacramento, Sabonis had played 47 games for the Pacers and was averaging 18.9 ppg, 12.1 rbg, 5 apg, 1.5 stocks/game, with an eFG of 61%.
McNair - at the 2022 trade deadline - traded for the better, more valuable player. But you know that.
Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean its not true.
We don't need hard evidence to prove everything. This isn't a court of law.
Not just during the trade deadline of 2022. In the offseason before Simmons decided to quit.
One bad playoff series lol. Simmons had a ton of value back then. He ended up being traded for JAMES HARDEN.
When most thought Harden was an all star. And many said the Nets won the trade at the time! Go read stuff from back then.
The Sixers did turn down Haliburton for Simmons.
Just like they traded Bridges for Zhaire Smith. And traded Tatum for Fultz. And signed Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler.
Its a front office of horrible decisions.
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So is Embiid actually hurt?
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Meanwhile Giannis has missed the same number of games jn the playoffs and also missed more in the regular season.rate_ wrote:Don't know if one can win a championship with a player like Embiid in the playoffs. I'd take Giannis and Jimmy over him in the East.
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Sharkboy242 wrote:So is Embiid actually hurt?
Probably, the question is how much?
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
I don't have to post a link. That is bull.
Simmons was coming off All NBA and DPOY. The idea that the Kings would trade Haliburton for Sabonis and not Simmons. Who at the time was considered way better is obious.
Yes Sabonis is better now. Simmons was better at the time.
Even trading him for a Malcolm Brodgon based package would be better than a washed Harden.
Just like I thought. YOU HAVE NOTHING.
Just like EVERY OTHER PERSON who posted this ridiculous "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons!" ish.
Join the club.
And, by the way, in 2021 Simmons was NOT coming off of an All-NBA season. That was after the 2019-20 season. After the 2021 season, Simmons was coming off of UTTERLY VANISHING in the 2nd half of EVERY GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS.
To argue that, approaching the trade deadline in 2022, that Simmons had more value than Sabonis is ridiculous. Simmons was utterly embarrassed in the 2021 playoffs, he took his ball and went home to play COD, and was being ridiculed throughout the NBA. Meanwhile, before being traded to Sacramento, Sabonis had played 47 games for the Pacers and was averaging 18.9 ppg, 12.1 rbg, 5 apg, 1.5 stocks/game, with an eFG of 61%.
McNair - at the 2022 trade deadline - traded for the better, more valuable player. But you know that.
Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean its not true.
We don't need hard evidence to prove everything. This isn't a court of law.![]()
Not just during the trade deadline of 2022. In the offseason before Simmons decided to quit.
One bad playoff series lol. Simmons had a ton of value back then. He ended up being traded for JAMES HARDEN.
When most thought Harden was an all star. And many said the Nets won the trade at the time! Go read stuff from back then.
The Sixers did turn down Haliburton for Simmons.
Just like they traded Bridges for Zhaire Smith. And traded Tatum for Fultz. And signed Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler.
Its a front office of horrible decisions.
Just because you keep saying that the Sixers turned down a trade for Haliburton for Simmons doesn’t make it true.
PROVE IT
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bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:
Just like I thought. YOU HAVE NOTHING.
Just like EVERY OTHER PERSON who posted this ridiculous "the Sixers turned down Haliburton for Simmons!" ish.
Join the club.
And, by the way, in 2021 Simmons was NOT coming off of an All-NBA season. That was after the 2019-20 season. After the 2021 season, Simmons was coming off of UTTERLY VANISHING in the 2nd half of EVERY GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS.
To argue that, approaching the trade deadline in 2022, that Simmons had more value than Sabonis is ridiculous. Simmons was utterly embarrassed in the 2021 playoffs, he took his ball and went home to play COD, and was being ridiculed throughout the NBA. Meanwhile, before being traded to Sacramento, Sabonis had played 47 games for the Pacers and was averaging 18.9 ppg, 12.1 rbg, 5 apg, 1.5 stocks/game, with an eFG of 61%.
McNair - at the 2022 trade deadline - traded for the better, more valuable player. But you know that.
Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean its not true.
We don't need hard evidence to prove everything. This isn't a court of law.![]()
Not just during the trade deadline of 2022. In the offseason before Simmons decided to quit.
One bad playoff series lol. Simmons had a ton of value back then. He ended up being traded for JAMES HARDEN.
When most thought Harden was an all star. And many said the Nets won the trade at the time! Go read stuff from back then.
The Sixers did turn down Haliburton for Simmons.
Just like they traded Bridges for Zhaire Smith. And traded Tatum for Fultz. And signed Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler.
Its a front office of horrible decisions.
Just because you keep saying that the Sixers turned down a trade for Haliburton for Simmons doesn’t make it true.
PROVE IT
Keith Pompey of the Philadelphia Inquirer reported, citing league sources, that a deal consisting of Haliburton, Buddy Hield, Harrison Barnes and two first-round draft picks was being considered by the 76ers for Simmons, Tobias Harris and Matisse Thybulle.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/nba-rumors-76ers-want-tyrese-haliburton-picks-ben-simmons-trade
I'm sure you will also reject this source because it hurts your feelings. Keep coping.
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean its not true.
We don't need hard evidence to prove everything. This isn't a court of law.![]()
Not just during the trade deadline of 2022. In the offseason before Simmons decided to quit.
One bad playoff series lol. Simmons had a ton of value back then. He ended up being traded for JAMES HARDEN.
When most thought Harden was an all star. And many said the Nets won the trade at the time! Go read stuff from back then.
The Sixers did turn down Haliburton for Simmons.
Just like they traded Bridges for Zhaire Smith. And traded Tatum for Fultz. And signed Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler.
Its a front office of horrible decisions.
Just because you keep saying that the Sixers turned down a trade for Haliburton for Simmons doesn’t make it true.
PROVE ITKeith Pompey of the Philadelphia Inquirer reported, citing league sources, that a deal consisting of Haliburton, Buddy Hield, Harrison Barnes and two first-round draft picks was being considered by the 76ers for Simmons, Tobias Harris and Matisse Thybulle.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/nba-rumors-76ers-want-tyrese-haliburton-picks-ben-simmons-trade
I'm sure you will also reject this source because it hurts your feelings. Keep coping.
Do you think that team would be in better contention this year? Keep in mind Harden took a discount to add defensive depth and identity to the team. This team is in win now mode regardless of how much fans like certain players and hate others.
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HardenGoat wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:bebopdeluxe wrote:
Just because you keep saying that the Sixers turned down a trade for Haliburton for Simmons doesn’t make it true.
PROVE ITKeith Pompey of the Philadelphia Inquirer reported, citing league sources, that a deal consisting of Haliburton, Buddy Hield, Harrison Barnes and two first-round draft picks was being considered by the 76ers for Simmons, Tobias Harris and Matisse Thybulle.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/nba-rumors-76ers-want-tyrese-haliburton-picks-ben-simmons-trade
I'm sure you will also reject this source because it hurts your feelings. Keep coping.
Do you think that team would be in better contention this year? Keep in mind Harden took a discount to add defensive depth and identity to the team. This team is in win now mode regardless of how much fans like certain players and hate others.
Oh yeah. Way better.
Harden took a discount. But you also get rid of Tobias Harris's ridicolous contract.
Haliburton/Hield/Barnes/Tucker/Embiid
Maxey off the bench. Looks way better to me.




