Bornstellar wrote:WillyJakkz wrote:Bornstellar wrote:Not even remotely close to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is Sengun has played 4 games so comparing his stats to a full season of Jokic makes zero sense at this point.
I get you like Sengun, and that's fine. But it's just asinine trying to put him in the conversation with Jokic right now. Would be like someone saying Al Jefferson was on a Tim Duncan trajectory because they both averaged ~21/11 in their fourth seasons. A comparison based solely on raw stats, especially now, fails the mark
I'm strictly (as I'm thinking) most are observing by saying Sengun is a big who can dribble, score, throw nifty passes, and actually has the offense going thru him at alot of pts in the game even w/ a vet PG like FVV there when comparing to Jokic.
It's his style and then you see the numbers along w/ his play style and it is strangely similar. And he's only 21.
At no point did Al Jeff resemble Tim Duncan in any of those aspects, maybe Kevin McHale but not Timmy.
I was responding to the poster that I initially quoted who was using averages to represent their point, hence my reply, and then you chimed in. Again, I'm not disputing the aesthetic similarities in their games, but this goes back to our initial discussion when I said a no-defense C whose game is predicated on post play is a dinosaur in today's NBA to which you responded with the comparison to Jokic. My point there was Jokic is an elite level player with all-time level vision/passing and his offensive game is not predicated on post play like Sengun's is (Sengun is a career 28% shooter from distance, btw. He's shooting above 40% this season...in 4 games on 1.8 attempts per game). Then another poster responded to someone else pointing out their raw stats to which I pointed out that a 4 game sample size versus Jokic's 2017 season was silly.
Like I said, I get you like Sengun, he's a fine player, but why make this thread and ask who we'd prefer if you weren't going to accept Duren as an answer? Clearly the majority appears to agree with me. Any comparisons to Jokic at this point are premature. That's all I'm saying
Understood but when did I ever say I didn't accept Duren as an answer. I'm a Sengun guy and I like Duren alot. I'm disputing we can't say Duren looks like Dwight thus far this season (whom posters are seeing Prime Dwight #'s) while not making the same statement about Sengun who looks like early Jokic.
So any comparisons of Duren to Dwight should be premature as well if Alperen isn't getting the same privilege.