Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP?

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Re: Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP? 

Post#121 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:53 pm

BigGargamel wrote:LOL this was unsurprisingly an overreaction thread, the guy is just a guy really. Tre Mann was the superior pickup for Charlotte.

We've been super happy with both of them to be honest. Micic is the perfect backup PG and mentor for when LaMelo returns.
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Re: Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP? 

Post#122 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:58 pm

timO wrote:micic and mann showing that stat padd in tank teams is ez

same thing with wembrick

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Re: Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP? 

Post#123 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:27 pm

sunsbg wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:Here is a great analysis of Sasha Vezenkov, Victor Wembanyama, etc., in the EuroLeague and NBA. The same kind of truly insightful, serious, logical, factual, and in depth basketball discussions that we regularly get here in these forums about the EuroLeague and its players.



Nothing stops you from creating a truly insightful, serious, logical, factual, and in depth YT video to tell the world how MVP of a league is a role player in that same league. :lol:


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Re: Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP? 

Post#124 » by Nuntius » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:45 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:And actually, you get a lot of guys that were role players in EuroLeague in the NBA. In fact, the vast majority of NBA players that came from EuroLeague were role players in that league. Many of them, especially the draft picks, were scrubs in EuroLeague.


I'm not going to get into the ludicrous issue of whether a league's MVP(!!!) is a role player, but I very clearly pointed out that I'm not talking about young kids. I'm talking about guys, whether drafted or not, who come over in their late 20s. I don't think many of those were role players, but then again, if you consider a man who was the EL MVP and the MVP of the Greek league 3 times a role player, who the **** isn't a role player?


To be fair, he isn't wrong about Sasha Vezenkov. You said in your post that these players were the focus of the offense on their clubs which, in modern basketball, also meant that they were primary ball-handlers. And while that was true for guards like Micic, Spanoulis and Teodosic, it definitely wasn't true for Vezenkov.

Vezenkov has always been an off-ball player. He has always thrived as an off-ball shooter and cutter. He was never a primary ball-handler. He was never even a secondary ball-handler. There were a number of videos about it last year. Here's 3 of them:







And, yes, the thumbnail does indeed say that he scored 275 points in 24 dribbles taken. That is not ANY kind of ball-handler. There are back-up bigs that take more dribbles per game than Vezenkov did in a year.

Sasha was the focus of Olympiacos' offense last year, this is true, but he definitely wasn't a primary ball-handler. This is simply not his game. He is an off-ball master which is why I am certain that he'll have no problem having a solid NBA career. He can transition a lot easier than the on-ball guys could.
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Re: Did OKC mismanage the former Euroleague MVP? 

Post#125 » by holdenwait » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:53 pm

as a Fener fan didn't enjoy this guy ripping it up for Efes multiple years but was shocked how limited time he found at OKC, so I'm glad to see him go somewhere where he can show more of his talent.

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