Cooper Flagg

[JRoy]

Men’s version of Caitlyn Clark. Not in terms of play style or skills, but a hyped player with the wrong skin color

She deserves all the hype she gets.

[Johnny Firpo]

I think that by Christmas, we will talk about him in the same way we've talked about Wemby. The way his offense has improved in the last two years, I think we will see a crazy mix of Kirilenko's defense, Durant's ball handling, shot and size, and Luka's playmaking and craftiness. Yes, this is an absolutely bonkers prediction, I understand, but even if he doesn't reach that, his starter package is basically a Kiri/Gallo hybrid. He is an absolutely crazy prospect who has very little chance to be a bust imo.

[mattao313]

I don't see elite athleticism seem more of a Tatum level athlete and even physically as well.

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[12footrim]

What makes him overrated?

His stats were pedestrian in high school.

16.5ppg 7.5rpg 3.8apg 1.6spg 2.7bpg

I don't care if that is a great high school team with a bunch of other top players, one of his teammates averaged exactly the same averages points and rebound averages. The season prior it was the same guys and he averaged 9.8ppg 5.2rpg and was like the 3rd or 4th leading scorer. If you are some generational talent I think you really need to be dominating high schoolers in a way that is tangible on the court. Luka and Wembanyama for example dominated professionals.

I expect him to be the #1 pick and longterm it will probably work out well, but a lot of people are already talking about him as the best player in college basketball or top 5. I think expecting a 6-9, 200lb dude that plays in the post to come into college basketball at the age of 17 and be a top 5 player like I've seen some pick him is ridiculous in the super senior era. Freshmen are struggling more than ever per kenpom.

He not only has that working against him, he doesn't turn 18 until like the last week of December when there will be many 23 and 24 year old 250lb post players in college basketball next year in the last year of the super senior. It's basically like a high school Junior playing in college basketball if you take his age and those in their 5th or 6th years and he will run into Bacot and DJ Burns types.

It’s about points per possession right? but you talking about raw stats here.

We'll we are guessing there, unfortunately, at least his senior year. His junior year we have the minutes which is a good stand in and he was productive per minute. The cool thing is we have his percentages and a good idea of his advanced stats most likely were buy . They were solid, but I would have expected him to have a true shooting for example more like 68 or 70% if he's mostly shooting 2 pointers like he was. It was 63%. That's good, but it's on lower volume and usage where he has plenty of other options to take the pressure off him and still wasn't just absolutely crushing it. Doncic basically had a 60% true shooting in 35 Euroleague games at the same age for comparison.

[ConSarnit]

I think that by Christmas, we will talk about him in the same way we've talked about Wemby. The way his offense has improved in the last two years, I think we will see a crazy mix of Kirilenko's defense, Durant's ball handling, shot and size, and Luka's playmaking and craftiness. Yes, this is an absolutely bonkers prediction, I understand, but even if he doesn't reach that, his starter package is basically a Kiri/Gallo hybrid. He is an absolutely crazy prospect who has very little chance to be a bust imo.

Ya think?

The player you a describing is the greatest player of all-time. You’re basically describing Lebron but with Durants shooting.

According to you Flagg will be:

-1st team all Defense
-the best pnr operator in the league
-a top 3 passer in the league
-a top 5 shooter of all time
-an elite iso scorer

Seems a little optimistic doesn’t it?

[Ayt]

Men’s version of Caitlyn Clark. Not in terms of play style or skills, but a hyped player with the wrong skin color

What the hell are you talking about?

[Johnny Firpo]

I think that by Christmas, we will talk about him in the same way we've talked about Wemby. The way his offense has improved in the last two years, I think we will see a crazy mix of Kirilenko's defense, Durant's ball handling, shot and size, and Luka's playmaking and craftiness. Yes, this is an absolutely bonkers prediction, I understand, but even if he doesn't reach that, his starter package is basically a Kiri/Gallo hybrid. He is an absolutely crazy prospect who has very little chance to be a bust imo.

Ya think?

The player you a describing is the greatest player of all-time. You’re basically describing Lebron but with Durants shooting.

According to you Flagg will be:

-1st team all Defense
-the best pnr operator in the league
-a top 3 passer in the league
-a top 5 shooter of all time
-an elite iso scorer

Seems a little optimistic doesn’t it?

Okay, let me revise that a little bit. I did not say, or at least wasn't really trying to say that he will do everything those guys do at the same level, more like that I expect him to be a really good shooter and ball handler for a tall/lengthy guy (like KD), a very good, crafty passer with high IQ (like Luka), and with great defensive instincts, as well as the positional defensive skills and shot blocking ability (like Kiri). I want to say that at least in shades, he will remind us of multiple great players, therefore will be difficult to find apt single player comparison for him. I expect greatness though, no question about it, but probably not "GOAT greatness", yeah, you are right about that.

[CP3nthusiast]

If you're saying underwhelming box score stats won't significantly harm his status as a top draft prospect, I agree with you. But the biggest question mark about his game right now is his offensive production and if he were to finish the college season averaging 30 a game in the **** ACC, that would automatically put those concerns to rest and make him the best college prospect since Kareem. This wouldn't be the same as a 6'1 Trae Young putting up 27 on 42% shooting or Glen Rice lighting it up from three as a senior (both of which made them top 5 prospects anyways). We're talking about a 17 year old who already projects as an elite defensive player putting up these numbers. It would absolutely change the way people talk about him.

ok, I didn't realize you were specifically referring to CF as the freshman avging 30ppg. In which case I'd agree he would be incredibly highly rated(up there with KD probably and a few others but not above Shaq, DRob, Walton, etc). He wouldn't be 17 doing that though, he'll turn 19 just as his first college season begins. Glenn Robinson also did that as a sophomore but he didn't project as the defensive player Cooper likely will become.

He was born in 2006. He's turning 18 at the end of the year, which means he'll be 18 when the college season ends.

[TravisScott55]

White Evan Mobley.

He can't create.

[magee]

He's got the potential to create. I like his vision. 4 assists/game in HS doesn't necessarily stand out, but watching him play, it looks like he sees the court well enough to be respected as a passer.

I could see him averaging 5 assists at some point in his NBA career.

[DirtyDez]

If you're saying underwhelming box score stats won't significantly harm his status as a top draft prospect, I agree with you. But the biggest question mark about his game right now is his offensive production and if he were to finish the college season averaging 30 a game in the **** ACC, that would automatically put those concerns to rest and make him the best college prospect since Kareem. This wouldn't be the same as a 6'1 Trae Young putting up 27 on 42% shooting or Glen Rice lighting it up from three as a senior (both of which made them top 5 prospects anyways). We're talking about a 17 year old who already projects as an elite defensive player putting up these numbers. It would absolutely change the way people talk about him.

ok, I didn't realize you were specifically referring to CF as the freshman avging 30ppg. In which case I'd agree he would be incredibly highly rated(up there with KD probably and a few others but not above Shaq, DRob, Walton, etc). He wouldn't be 17 doing that though, he'll turn 19 just as his first college season begins. Glenn Robinson also did that as a sophomore but he didn't project as the defensive player Cooper likely will become.

He was born in 2006. He's turning 18 at the end of the year, which means he'll be 18 when the college season ends.

He should be a Sr in high school assuming his age is legit.

[PierceFan4ever]

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Apparently he’s cooking team USA

[MalonesElbows]

Zion level prospect. Not Wemby level, but high.

[azcatz11]

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[Hair Jordan]

Bobby Hurley looked all world against Team USA in ‘92. Settle down folks

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Needs to be said that he's only 17 and his birthday isn't until December. He's going to be the age of some HS to NBA pros when he's a rookie.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

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Apparently he’s cooking team USA

B-b-b-but he didn’t put up monster numbers in HS.

lol

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Bobby Hurley looked all world against Team USA in ‘92. Settle down folks

Do you remember Bobby Hurley? He was a monster at Duke

[Duke4life831]

Bobby Hurley looked all world against Team USA in ‘92. Settle down folks

Hurley was also 21 years old (4 years older than Flagg). Hurley did that after 3 years of being one of the best PGs in college ball. Flagg is doing this as a 17 year old who hasnt even faced college competition yet.

Flagg is also an athletic 6'9 wing compared to Hurley who was probably 6 feet in shoes and not a great athlete. Also lets hope Flagg doesnt almost die in a car crash a month into his rookie year and isnt the same physically after that, like what happened to Hurley.

[djsunyc]

let's just hope all his babysitters are out of the picture