Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr

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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#121 » by PlatinumState » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:20 pm

Horrible first game. I'll wait 10 games before passing judgement, however I see him averaging between 5-10 ppg this season which is low because his team is gonna tank all season. Its def not good that all he wants to do is shoot threes
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#124 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:50 pm

PlatinumState wrote:Horrible first game. I'll wait 10 games before passing judgement, however I see him averaging between 5-10 ppg this season which is low because his team is gonna tank all season. Its def not good that all he wants to do is shoot threes


I question the decision to start him next to undisciplined vets like Jordan Poole or inexperienced guys like Coulibaly and Carrington.

Sarr should definitely get PT early on, but you at least want some level of competence on the court and in the locker room so all those young players don't develop terrible habits and get absorbed into a losing culture.

We've watched it with the young guys in Detroit and Houston for years now. It is not an ideal way to develop young players.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#125 » by tcheco » Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:07 pm

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PlatinumState wrote:Horrible first game. I'll wait 10 games before passing judgement, however I see him averaging between 5-10 ppg this season which is low because his team is gonna tank all season. Its def not good that all he wants to do is shoot threes


I question the decision to start him next to undisciplined vets like Jordan Poole or inexperienced guys like Coulibaly and Carrington.

Sarr should definitely get PT early on, but you at least want some level of competence on the court and in the locker room so all those young players don't develop terrible habits and get absorbed into a losing culture.

We've watched it with the young guys in Detroit and Houston for years now. It is not an ideal way to develop young players.


Aside from Brogdon(injured) and Jonas, not much left in there for the Wizards to put on the floor with him unfortunately. I do agree that for rookies to develop they need some reference on the floor to help avoid these bad habits
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#126 » by UcanUwill » Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:00 pm

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PlatinumState wrote:Horrible first game. I'll wait 10 games before passing judgement, however I see him averaging between 5-10 ppg this season which is low because his team is gonna tank all season. Its def not good that all he wants to do is shoot threes


I question the decision to start him next to undisciplined vets like Jordan Poole or inexperienced guys like Coulibaly and Carrington.

Sarr should definitely get PT early on, but you at least want some level of competence on the court and in the locker room so all those young players don't develop terrible habits and get absorbed into a losing culture.

We've watched it with the young guys in Detroit and Houston for years now. It is not an ideal way to develop young players.


Aside from Brogdon(injured) and Jonas, not much left in there for the Wizards to put on the floor with him unfortunately. I do agree that for rookies to develop they need some reference on the floor to help avoid these bad habits


A bit surprised that they already starting him at center, I thought they would start him with Jonas also. But thats encouraging, I hate when clear centers, 7'1 guys, are afraid to play center. Anyhow, should definitely average over 5-10 points, simply because he will get minutes, plain scoring doesn't require immense talent in the NBA. But his efficiency and percentages I expect to be very bad, especially for a center.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#128 » by nate33 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:02 pm

UcanUwill wrote:A bit surprised that they already starting him at center, I thought they would start him with Jonas also. But thats encouraging, I hate when clear centers, 7'1 guys, are afraid to play center. Anyhow, should definitely average over 5-10 points, simply because he will get minutes, plain scoring doesn't require immense talent in the NBA. But his efficiency and percentages I expect to be very bad, especially for a center.

Every time they play Sarr alongside JV it's a total disaster. The team is -58 per 100 possessions with them together. Sarr just doesn't have the ability to play PF on offense. He can't shoot reliably enough, and he can't make any plays off the bounce. Teams just use his defender to jam up other actions.

It's looking like Keefe has figured that out and is mostly playing Sarr at center now. Sarr is pretty solid defensively at center, except he understandably gets bullied by stronger guys on the glass, and he misses a few rotations as young players often do.

The guy is a project. I'm not expecting a whole lot of winning play in the short term, but the long term potential is there.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#129 » by PlatinumState » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:19 pm

So far from what I've seen I'd put Sarr ahead in terms of potential over Clingan and Edey who both look slow and play like 90's centers.
He should stop taking so many threes though. I could see him becoming very good in like 3-4 years and he's only 19
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#130 » by zero rings » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:39 am

"He's a project" is just a nice way of saying he can't play.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#131 » by Papi_swav » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:16 am

he'll be good when he's about 25 years old but still not a #2 draft player type good. This draft class looks weak anyway
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#132 » by PlatinumState » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:19 am

Papi_swav wrote:he'll be good when he's about 25 years old but still not a #2 draft player type good. This draft class looks weak anyway


I feel they took the player with the most upside. Who else was available? Knecht who's 23 already, Buzelis, Salaun, Holland, Castle or Sheppard? Out of all those I only see Sheppard having a better career than Sarr. And they got their PG in Bub Carrington later at 14.
Sarr seems to be a block machine, had 4 against the Hawks yesterday, thats something. If he turns into a consistent 10/10 guy that plays good d thats more than enough
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#133 » by Godymas » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:28 am

nah dude is absolutely elite defensively. If the worst case scenario for Alex Sarr is Rudy Gobert but can guard the perimeter, then I have no issue with that at all.

He has the drive to be good offensively, he wants to shoot, so his shot will come with practice. If in 3 years he still has no offensive bag, then it's not a concern, just a let down, because he's damn good defensively.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#134 » by Long2_noD » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:43 am

This guy is just another iteration of Mo Bamba. Will get a highlight defensive play here and there, but in the grand scheme he's too unskilled to play as a forward and too weak to play C.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#135 » by UcanUwill » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:01 pm

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Papi_swav wrote:he'll be good when he's about 25 years old but still not a #2 draft player type good. This draft class looks weak anyway


I feel they took the player with the most upside. Who else was available? Knecht who's 23 already, Buzelis, Salaun, Holland, Castle or Sheppard? Out of all those I only see Sheppard having a better career than Sarr. And they got their PG in Bub Carrington later at 14.
Sarr seems to be a block machine, had 4 against the Hawks yesterday, thats something. If he turns into a consistent 10/10 guy that plays good d thats more than enough


This draft is really bad for teams looking for superstars, tho I thought few guys have some serious potential. Sheppard, Salaun and Buzelis ceilings I like a ton.
I think Salaun and Buzelis can easily end up being nothing at all, but potential is there I think, I do not think its any worse than Sarrs at least. Problem, none of these guys are sure things, at all. Its a draft where the development team will have to earn their money, as it will be more important than what was probably even drafted in the first place...
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#136 » by The-Power » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:04 pm

Godymas wrote:nah dude is absolutely elite defensively. If the worst case scenario for Alex Sarr is Rudy Gobert but can guard the perimeter, then I have no issue with that at all.

Yeah, but you know it's not, right? His worst case scenario isn't ‘one of the best defenders of his generation but even better’.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#137 » by nate33 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:23 pm

Long2_noD wrote:This guy is just another iteration of Mo Bamba. Will get a highlight defensive play here and there, but in the grand scheme he's too unskilled to play as a forward and too weak to play C.

I'd say this is a fair description of him right now at age 19.

Sarr has a really good frame though, with broad shoulders. I think he'll get considerably stronger than Mo Bamba in time. Also, Sarr has exceptional hip mobility and can move much better on the perimeter than Mo Bamba. He can provide Mo Bamba's shot blocking while also being a switchable defender who can guard wings.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#138 » by UcanUwill » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:46 pm

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Godymas wrote:nah dude is absolutely elite defensively. If the worst case scenario for Alex Sarr is Rudy Gobert but can guard the perimeter, then I have no issue with that at all.

Yeah, but you know it's not, right? His worst case scenario isn't ‘one of the best defenders of his generation but even better’.


If this draft had a prospect, whose worst case scenario is Gobert, that guy would have went first without any questions.
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Post#139 » by nate33 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:01 pm

zero rings wrote:"He's a project" is just a nice way of saying he can't play.

This is true.

Sarr can't play right now. He's a total liability on offense. If he was on a team that was trying to win, he probably would be out of the rotation, or, at best, a backup center playing 12-15 minutes a night. But that's not really unusual. Most 19-year-old bigs can't play effective basketball as rookies - certainly not in the first month of the season.
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Re: Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr 

Post#140 » by Godymas » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:47 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Godymas wrote:nah dude is absolutely elite defensively. If the worst case scenario for Alex Sarr is Rudy Gobert but can guard the perimeter, then I have no issue with that at all.

Yeah, but you know it's not, right? His worst case scenario isn't ‘one of the best defenders of his generation but even better’.


If this draft had a prospect, whose worst case scenario is Gobert, that guy would have went first without any questions.


He was supposed to be first, no questions, but refused to workout for Atlanta.

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