2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (GSW leads 1-0)

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Who wins and goes to the WCF's?

Poll ended at Fri May 9, 2025 3:17 am

Wolves in 4
10
4%
Wolves in 5
39
17%
Wolves in 6
71
32%
Wolves in 7
23
10%
Warriors in 4
5
2%
Warriors in 5
3
1%
Warriors in 6
53
24%
Warriors in 7
20
9%
 
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Post#121 » by iggymcfrack » Mon May 5, 2025 1:51 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:Series Odds:

Wolves (1.55) vs Warriors (2.35)

As expected, the Wolves are considerable favorites on this one.


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I was honestly surprised. I expected the Warriors to be small favorites and I was still planning on betting them.

Why would you think that.


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Because they were +9 and had a ridiculous record post Jimmy trade and Minnesota was the same team all year and was about a +5. Seems like people are acting like Minnesota facing a Lakers team that was +3 post-Luka trade and had JJ melting down is the same as Golden State facing a +5 Rockets team with the best coach in the league that can create specific matchup problems with a ridiculously well thought out scheme.
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Post#122 » by guest81 » Mon May 5, 2025 1:54 pm

So who is guarding Ant?
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Post#123 » by kaansunman » Mon May 5, 2025 2:12 pm

We saw that how physical game challenges Warriors in the first round. Wolves will be crushing the boards and dominate the paint. They are better shooting team compare to Rockets. Warriors have the talent and the experience but they are not big enough, they will be needing the Butler herioc to have a chance in the series.

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Post#125 » by TimberKat » Mon May 5, 2025 2:21 pm

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Are you actually a Wolves fan? Ant went #1. Wiseman #2.

:crazy:

Yes, the point is on the "Drive and enthusiasm". Have you seen it with Wiseman?

Do you usually believe what teams say publicly prior to the draft?

Do you not read NBA news? That was Kerr's actual comments to Ant during the Olympics. Kerr is actually correct and Ant is still a work in progress.
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Post#126 » by The Explorer » Mon May 5, 2025 2:21 pm

Drayma Queen going to get flagrants and techs here no doubt. Outside of him, Warriors play pretty smart basketball, especially Butler. But Minnesota is just more talented and have less weaknesses. Timberwolves in 6.
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Post#127 » by life_saver » Mon May 5, 2025 2:25 pm

Wolves shot badly from 3 against Lakers..just around 32.5% which is way below their season average of 38%...Donte & NAW especially was terrible shooting wise in the Lakers series. Need them to find back the shooting touch vs Warriors
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Post#128 » by Slim Tubby » Mon May 5, 2025 2:25 pm

firedavidkahn wrote:Rachel Nichols!

Rachel Nichols!

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Post#129 » by TimberKat » Mon May 5, 2025 2:25 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
TimberKat wrote: :crazy:
Yes, the point is on the "Drive and enthusiasm". Have you seen it with Wiseman?



Oh OK you didn't say that though, nice try. Let me know when you get to the Finals for the first time. And what happened to Kat, where did he go TimberKat?

Nice try? Feel free to continue believing I didn't know who was drafted #1 and ignore the obvious. KAT is in a better place now, just like Klay. :D
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Post#130 » by giberish » Mon May 5, 2025 2:32 pm

guest81 wrote:So who is guarding Ant?


Payton, Moody and Butler
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Post#131 » by Impuniti » Mon May 5, 2025 2:33 pm

giberish wrote:
guest81 wrote:So who is guarding Ant?


Payton, Moody and Butler

The way Payton has been playing, only thing he should be doing is warming the bench.
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Post#132 » by Impuniti » Mon May 5, 2025 2:35 pm

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firedavidkahn wrote:Rachel Nichols!

Rachel Nichols!

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Post#134 » by cupcakesnake » Mon May 5, 2025 3:09 pm

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life_saver wrote:So far in Ant's era, Wolves have been underdogs in 5 series and favorites in just 1 series. This is just the 2nd series where Wolves will be the favorite. They surprisingly have a winning record in the series where they were underdogs (3-2) but lost the only series where they were the favorites.

Suns were favored against the Wolves last year?

Yes, Suns were the favorites per Vegas...Suns swept Wolves in RS last year (4-0) & had KD whereas there were lot of questions on how the Wolves team would fare in postseason..especially after Suns blew them out during last game of RS


I didn't remember the odds, but I remember the Suns being the trendy pick. Last game of the regular season they beat us by 20, and everyone acted like Bradley Beal was guaranteed to shoot 6-6 from 3 against us every game of the series. They felt like they always simply shot really well against us.

People were lukewarm on the Wolves (young, unproven despite a great season), and no one was too down on the Suns yet. Lots of people talked about their midrange jumper heavy offense would mess with the Wolves defensive scheme.
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Post#135 » by dWadeOwnzYou » Mon May 5, 2025 3:13 pm

A war tested and smart veterans vs a young and up and coming team. You got two of Jordan's son playing against each other. This will be the most interesting series to watch. The Wolves youth and athleticism will be too much for the Warriors at the end... Wolves in 7.
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Post#136 » by cupcakesnake » Mon May 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Upperclass wrote:Warriors will have a MUCH easier time vs the Wolves. Aside from Ant, their athleticism is only strength and vertical.. the Rockets athleticism was lateral speed, strength and vertical.. the Warriors offense is tailored for a Minn style lineup vs a Rockets style lineup. Dubs vs OKC will go 7. OKC is part Houston, part Minn.


I don't agree with this scouting report at all.
The Wolves have just as many BIG perimeter defenders: Jaden, NAW, Ant (and they can dust off Jaylen Clark or TSJ if they needed them for some reason). One of our main defensive strengths over 2 seasons has been ball pressure. Behind that ball pressure we have better rim protection. We don't have Amen Thompson, but Ant is a shot blocking athlete and Jaden is 6'10" and one of the very best ball hawks in the league. What specifically do you see Houston having that the Wolves don't, defensively?

I think the Rockets and Wolves are similar, except the Wolves can actually play some offense. We don't have the same offensive rebounding super power, but we have a super functional offense.
The main tools we have that the Rockets didn't are:
- Elite 3-point shooting. Top 5 in attempts and efficiency. If you want to pack the paint, we're excited to shoot open threes.
- We're not 3-point reliant. While we're willing to bomb 3s, our identity is a driving team. We shot poorly from 3 against the Lakers and still murdered them.
- An all-star scorer that can break down the defense and score at 3 levels. Ant is going to be a more complicated problem for the Warriors than Sengun (or Jalen Green?) was. Ant can shoot pull up 3s, so you have to pressure the ball. Ant can drive, and the Warriors are small and thin on the perimeter (who is even going to be Ant's primary defender?). The Warriors have Draymond, who's a better rim protector than anyone on the Lakers, but they're still a tiny team of shorties going up against an athletic guard and a frontcourt where all 3 players are taller than the Warriors tallest starter.

The size is a bit crazy in this one. Draymond is bigger than his height (only 6'5.75" but with a 7'1" wingspan), which gives him similar dimension to Julius Randle (6'7.75 with a 7'0" winspan). The problem is, Julius is the Wolves 3rd tallest starter. Jaden is 6'9" with a 6'11" winspan, while Rudy is 7'1" with a 7'8" winspan. Butler is a quarter inch taller than Draymond (still shorter than Randle), but only has a 6'7.5" winspan. There's no relief in the backccourt where Curry and Podz have to match up against Ant/NAW/DDV. Conley is the only smaller player.

The Warriors have a problem where they can't put size on the floor without losing all spacing. Since Dray/Jimmy are already undersized and can't shoot, Quentin Post is the only viable way to size up in the frontcourt. They'd love to be able to play more Looney, but it too often means 3 non-shooters on the court. The Wolves play constant 2-big lineups without being short on spacing or matchup versatility.

The Warriors are better defensively than the Lakers, but even smaller and more vulnerable on the boards. We just watched them go to 7 games because Houston could simply grab 31% of their own misses.

Can you explain what about the Warriors is "tailored for a Minn style lineup"? To me, the Wolves come into this series with glaring advantages, and the Warriors will need to be crafty to make this a series.
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Post#137 » by cupcakesnake » Mon May 5, 2025 3:41 pm

giberish wrote:
guest81 wrote:So who is guarding Ant?


Payton, Moody and Butler


It probably has to start with Moody or Podz. Payton gives the Warriors major problems on the offensive side, since you can't play him with Jimmy and Draymond and still space the floor. Butler HAS to guard a big on the back line, and be the secondary rim protector and box out guy. There's just no one else, so Butler will almost always be playing the 4/5 defensively. I don't see him guarding Ant except for on switches. (Jimmy on Ant means you have... Podz on Gobert, you know?)

Moody has long arms but he's a little slow for Ant. He'll be good for contesting Ant's pull ups, but poor for keeping him out of the paint. Podz will stay in front of him better. He's quick and crafty, but Ant will be able to shoot against him.

Big picture, Ant is a major problem for the Warriors. They dont have a good matchup to throw at him, so it will be more about scheming to force Ant into ugly games. Hope he's not hot, and mess up his passes. Ant's playmaking was great against the Lakers, but it's still simple stuff. Warriors will try to test the limits of Ant as a passer.
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Post#138 » by Slim Tubby » Mon May 5, 2025 3:48 pm

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Rachel Nichols!

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Post#139 » by Black star » Mon May 5, 2025 3:58 pm

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I was honestly surprised. I expected the Warriors to be small favorites and I was still planning on betting them.

Why would you think that.


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Because they were +9 and had a ridiculous record post Jimmy trade and Minnesota was the same team all year and was about a +5. Seems like people are acting like Minnesota facing a Lakers team that was +3 post-Luka trade and had JJ melting down is the same as Golden State facing a +5 Rockets team with the best coach in the league that can create specific matchup problems with a ridiculously well thought out scheme.

Warriors were +9.7 post Jimmy trade and the Wolves were +8.6 post all star break so not a huge difference. Saying Minnesota was the same team all year glosses over the fact that they had a massive trade at the start of the year they clearly spent a good chunk of the season adjusting to.
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Post#140 » by Upperclass » Mon May 5, 2025 3:59 pm

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Upperclass wrote:Warriors will have a MUCH easier time vs the Wolves. Aside from Ant, their athleticism is only strength and vertical.. the Rockets athleticism was lateral speed, strength and vertical.. the Warriors offense is tailored for a Minn style lineup vs a Rockets style lineup. Dubs vs OKC will go 7. OKC is part Houston, part Minn.


I don't agree with this scouting report at all.
The Wolves have just as many BIG perimeter defenders: Jaden, NAW, Ant (and they can dust off Jaylen Clark or TSJ if they needed them for some reason). One of our main defensive strengths over 2 seasons has been ball pressure. Behind that ball pressure we have better rim protection. We don't have Amen Thompson, but Ant is a shot blocking athlete and Jaden is 6'10" and one of the very best ball hawks in the league. What specifically do you see Houston having that the Wolves don't, defensively?

I think the Rockets and Wolves are similar, except the Wolves can actually play some offense. We don't have the same offensive rebounding super power, but we have a super functional offense.
The main tools we have that the Rockets didn't are:
- Elite 3-point shooting. Top 5 in attempts and efficiency. If you want to pack the paint, we're excited to shoot open threes.
- We're not 3-point reliant. While we're willing to bomb 3s, our identity is a driving team. We shot poorly from 3 against the Lakers and still murdered them.
- An all-star scorer that can break down the defense and score at 3 levels. Ant is going to be a more complicated problem for the Warriors than Sengun (or Jalen Green?) was. Ant can shoot pull up 3s, so you have to pressure the ball. Ant can drive, and the Warriors are small and thin on the perimeter (who is even going to be Ant's primary defender?). The Warriors have Draymond, who's a better rim protector than anyone on the Lakers, but they're still a tiny team of shorties going up against an athletic guard and a frontcourt where all 3 players are taller than the Warriors tallest starter.

The size is a bit crazy in this one. Draymond is bigger than his height (only 6'5.75" but with a 7'1" wingspan), which gives him similar dimension to Julius Randle (6'7.75 with a 7'0" winspan). The problem is, Julius is the Wolves 3rd tallest starter. Jaden is 6'9" with a 6'11" winspan, while Rudy is 7'1" with a 7'8" winspan. Butler is a quarter inch taller than Draymond (still shorter than Randle), but only has a 6'7.5" winspan. There's no relief in the backccourt where Curry and Podz have to match up against Ant/NAW/DDV. Conley is the only smaller player.

The Warriors have a problem where they can't put size on the floor without losing all spacing. Since Dray/Jimmy are already undersized and can't shoot, Quentin Post is the only viable way to size up in the frontcourt. They'd love to be able to play more Looney, but it too often means 3 non-shooters on the court. The Wolves play constant 2-big lineups without being short on spacing or matchup versatility.

The Warriors are better defensively than the Lakers, but even smaller and more vulnerable on the boards. We just watched them go to 7 games because Houston could simply grab 31% of their own misses.

Can you explain what about the Warriors is "tailored for a Minn style lineup"? To me, the Wolves come into this series with glaring advantages, and the Warriors will need to be crafty to make this a series.


We'll check back in a few weeks. The rim protection for the Wolves isnt useful vs a team that doesnt need layups. Rudy will get played off the floor and then the rim protection is gone and youre going to have bigger, slower players vs smaller, quicker ones. Jimmy with no Gobert is going to park at the rim and not move. Its an awful matchup for the wolves, as were the Rockets actually.

On offense, the Warriors will force Randle to be the focal point as he is inclined to turn the ball over, let Ant get his with some difficulty and play tough on the other contributors. A much better offense than the Rockets but an inexperienced and inconsistent one aside from Conley who may be really important for their teams offensive cohesion this series.

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