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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#121 » by og15 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:29 pm

OriginalRed wrote:Considering their lack of ANY playable bigs, this is definitely a solid grab. I strongly believe Luka played a huge factor in Ayton going there as lob threats thrive next to him. Defensively he's leagues below AD but still better then what they had so I can't hate it no matter how low I think of Ayton as a professional basketball player.

But I really hope he understands the pressure that comes with being in L.A and the media that follows them. Expectations are always sky high and they will eviscerate underperformers in a heartbeat. This might close the door on him getting a big contract ever again or open that baby right up, we'll have to see.

Ayton has the ability and had down himself to be very capable defensively, but that also required CP3 and Monty yelling at him constantly to accomplish, soo...
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#122 » by Airmiess » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:30 pm

Hes not a bad center at all, just underperformed.
You give Luka an Ayton ? sheesh...

Ayton needs to stop **** pornstars on camera though.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#123 » by Me Like Lakers » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:31 pm

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OriginalRed wrote:Considering their lack of ANY playable bigs, this is definitely a solid grab. I strongly believe Luka played a huge factor in Ayton going there as lob threats thrive next to him. Defensively he's leagues below AD but still better then what they had so I can't hate it no matter how low I think of Ayton as a professional basketball player.

But I really hope he understands the pressure that comes with being in L.A and the media that follows them. Expectations are always sky high and they will eviscerate underperformers in a heartbeat. This might close the door on him getting a big contract ever again or open that baby right up, we'll have to see.

Ayton has the ability and had down himself to be very capable defensively, but that also required CP3 and Monty yelling at him constantly to accomplish, soo...

Well, he is going to have lebron and JJ now so there is that
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#124 » by TheHartBreakKid » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:32 pm

JimmyPlopper wrote:Luka Donic / Gabe Vincent / Bronny James
Austin Reaves / Shake Milton
Rui Hachimura / Dalton Knecht
LeBron James / Jake LaRavia / Adou Thiero
DeAndre Ayton / Maxi Kleber



Is it a flawless roster? absolutely not. There are many, many question marks. Is it an improved roster on paper? Definitely

That said, the NBA is more open than it has been in a long time. OKC obviously is on another level than the other teams in the West, but we've seen how there seems to be a rise in upsets in the playoffs whether it's due to injuries, heroic performances, etc, and the Lakers did finish 3rd in the West, with a a very respectable 15-7 finish after the allstar break in games that Lebron played in, with a severely imbalanced roster.

Of course, Lebron will be a year older, and there are concerns about his commitment to the team, and Ayton carries a lot of question marks himself, but the team will have the benefit of actually having training camp together, along with hopefully a more in shape Luka, and obviously a more balanced roster, along with some pieces for making improvements throughout the season.

Like I said, obviously not on the level of the Thunder, but a solid shot at being the second best team in the West (with many other teams competing for that spot). In today's more competitive NBA, you can't really ask for more than an outside shot of making a run if you're the Lakers, considering you have a 40 year old Lebron on the the books who is most likely in his last season in LA, taking up that much of the cap.

The Lakers are making lemonades with the lemons they had here; Maintaining cap flexibility and assets for the post Lebron world, while giving themselves a better small chance as a long shot to possibly compete with some luck if everything clicks. Can't really ask for more if you're a Laker fan given the situation.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#125 » by Coach Carter » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:33 pm

- Can't spread the floor
- Attitude issues
- Work rate issues
- Can't protect the rim
- Portland paid him to leave
- Last center that was left on the market

All things considered, great signing for the Lakers
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#126 » by aj174 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:34 pm

I actually love this pickup for LA, getting ayton on the cheap, pairing him with Luka will make him look good
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#127 » by KyRo23 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:39 pm

Cool. If anyone watched the Minny series, every defensive rebound LA tried to wrangle in was so unnecessarily difficult. To say this isn’t an upgrade is just blind hate
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Post#128 » by MrTribbiani » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:39 pm

Solid signing. He was the best available center.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#129 » by bushybrah_ » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:41 pm

Lakers fans will want him gone by Christmas
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#130 » by LakersLegacy » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:41 pm

Now go after Dame

Let him get back to health in UCLA with treadmill he can run on without injury

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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#131 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:47 pm

MrTribbiani wrote:Solid signing. He was the best available center.


Yeah, while I don't see it working out well, the talent to risk / salary calculations is something you do every day and Sunday for the Lakers. I fully think it was the right move to take a low-risk low-salary swing on him with his talent, but the risk to him being pouty, not giving effort regularly and getting into it with JJ and LeBron is extremely high. Still, you take the swing since you give up nothing but a cheap 1 year, maybe 2, deal.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#132 » by thamadkant » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:55 pm

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UglyBugBall wrote:Not even kidding, this might go down as one of the best signings the Lakers have made in the last 10–15 years.

Ayton catches way too much hate, but people forget he’s a legit 7 footer who’s averaged a double-double basically every season since he came into the league. He’s not just tall he’s skilled. Soft touch around the rim, can hit that short midrange, strong rebounder, and when he’s locked in defensively, he can anchor a team.

People clown him for the Suns stuff, but he helped take that team to the Finals. That playoff run wasn’t a fluke, he was efficient as hell and made impact plays on both ends. Now he’s only 26 and landing on a Lakers team with actual structure, vets, and a chance to win again? This is the best possible spot for him.

He basically signed for the mid-level exception. That’s wild. You’re getting a potential all star caliber big for backup money. In today’s market, that’s insane.

Honestly, if he plays up to his potential, we’re talking best big on the Lakers since Shaq. No disrespect to Pau, Bynum, Dwight (the first time), or AD but Ayton’s ceiling as a true center, on both ends, is up there. If he stays healthy and puts together a few big years in LA, he’s absolutely in the Hall of Fame conversation down the road.

Perfect fit, great timing, and low risk/high reward. If it hits, we’ll be looking back at this as one of the smartest signings in modern Lakers history.


I'm really not trying to be mean, but all your posts are very bad.


Two seasons ago, I said the Mavs were going to the Finals after the Gafford trade, and everyone told me I was crazy. I put money on it at terrible odds, and I posted about it way before it happened. Guess who cashed. Ayton’s next. Y’all laugh now, but wait. Statue outside Crypto.com Arena in a few years.




I'm a suns fan who actually likes Ayton and I understand and witnessed how he became a potential franchise two way center to being hated by the media and fans.

His biggest issues are that he was unprofessional and let his feelings get in the way of his job, secondly is that he was immature and just lacked fire consistently.

I also watched 2 years worth of Blazer games because of Ayton, Scoot and Deni. And Ayton was surrounded by chuckers and even worse ball hogs than when he was a Sun. Yet, Blazers looked their best and actually looked like they were heading towards the playoffs or play ins.


The one common criticism of Ayton from Suns and Blazers fans who hated him, is that he could be a very dominant player if he played with intensity. But that's like saying if Ayton was a completely different personality then he would be the player they envision him to be. Ayton is never going to be KG or Giannis like personality wise.

The one proof that makes Ayton an asset is that, when he is happy with his role and he is not ignored offensively, he puts in the effort defensively.

Ayton was a top 5 defensive center during his 3rd year when Suns was making their finals run. The stats showed Ayton contested the most shots out of all centers and the FG percentages were significantly below their normal averages when Ayton contested them.

So many Suns fans in the game threads would post and complain Ayton was being ignored offensively. And then the same Suns fans complain that Ayton is a mental midget playing unhappy and sulking. When they literally complained about the same things. Hence this is the Ayton being unprofessional issue falls under. He sulks and he stops trying hard when he is not happy.

So, the moral is, if Ayton is given offensive role, expect him to be a very good defender. If you just use him as a screener and an offensive rebounder offensively, then he will get demotivated.


He's a big child in a way. And that's his overall big issue.

But, him accepting MLE is a sign he is going to prove he deserves a 30M a year contract so I expect him to be a very good big man this upcoming season. So I agree with you.

Especially with Luka who is NOT afraid to give his big man lobs and passes... Ayton has a real good opportunity to prove the haters wrong.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#133 » by Archx » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:55 pm

JimmyPlopper wrote:Luka Donic / Gabe Vincent / Bronny James
Austin Reaves / Shake Milton
Rui Hachimura / Dalton Knecht
LeBron James / Jake LaRavia / Adou Thiero
DeAndre Ayton / Maxi Kleber



Rui played PF and a lot of C. Lebron is more SF/PF in these rotations. You also forgot about Vanderbilt who's a good defender but lacks on offensive side. Maxi was always best at PF, which leaves center rotation of Ayton/Hayes. According to some analysts LaRavia should actually be an upgrade over DFS but i never watched him play, so i might be wrong.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#134 » by Ball so hard » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:56 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
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PlatinumState wrote:Whats funny is the Lakers think this helps them


You have to be pretty far out there to think that he doesn't.

The rebounding alone will be a big deal, never mind how he finishes as a roll/lob threat. He certainly won't prime up their defense, but their offense? That's a major shot in the arm. Ayton is fantastic when he has PnR playmakers running the show for him, and now he has two.


He's an upgrade purely on talent, but JJ and Ayton are gonna butt heads bad. JJ is a hardass like Monty Williams was, he's gonna be hard on Ayton and Atyon is gonna check tf out. The second Ayton half asses a few defensive plays (and he ABSOLUTELY will), JJ will tear into him... so we'll see how good this fit is in 2026... but don't be surprised if its messy by then.


Ayton has to know this might be his last shot in the NBA or possibly his last shot at getting anything higher than the vet minimum. If this isn’t enough to motivate someone who’s described as being crazy about money, then I don’t know what else would. I expect a pretty good season from Ayton. I agree with tsherkin, one must be beyond delusional if they don’t think this is an upgrade over any center the Lakers put out last year. It’s not even close!
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#135 » by Memories » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:58 pm

Coach Carter wrote:- Can't spread the floor
- Attitude issues
- Work rate issues
- Can't protect the rim
- Portland paid him to leave
- Last center that was left on the market

All things considered, great signing for the Lakers


- Luka doesn't need a Center to spread the floor. He's needs a center to be a lob threat and thrive in the pick and roll. Hence, Ayton. See Ayton and CP3 pairing for reference.

- Lots of players have work rate issues with tanking teams. Now he's with LA and paired with Luka and Lebron on a contract year. That's a pretty big motivator.

- Rudy Gobert looking like Shaq wouldn't have happened with Ayton on that squad. Which is all that matters for this roster. This team needed a compotent center badly. Flaws and all.

- So did the Bucks with Damien Lillard or many teams in similar situations. That doesn't say much about the players.

- He was by far the best Center that was in the market if he cleared waivers from day 1.

Fact of the matter is simply this: Ayton is a MASSIVE upgrade over Jaxon Hayes who is a 3rd string Center at best. Ayton is a proven starting Center on a contending team that's still only 26. Which is all the Lakers needed at this position. He ain't perfect by any means, but he's a LOT better than what they have been dealing with for years.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#136 » by TheHartBreakKid » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:01 am

Invictus88 wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote:Lots being said about the move from the Laker standpoints, and it's all mostly true. Definitely a risk, with a lot riding on coaching/leadership and Ayton's menalitity.

That said, let's look at this from Ayton's perspective;

Dude basically just got rewarded for being a headcase in Portland;

-He makes almost all his money back that he gave up in the Buy Out, with 8m security for next season in a player option.
- He goes to a situation where it'll surely benefit him basketball fit wise vs the Blazers, with Lebron/Luka feeding him Lobs and providing easy chances.
- He goes to a situation where it'll surely benefit him in terms of role/playing time. Blazers had Clingan & Robert Williams competing with him for minutes
- He goes to a situation where he'll benefit from media attention around the Lakers. He will also be featured in a team that atleast on paper is supposed to win more than the Blazers were expected to.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% like what the blazers did and I expect them to be a team on the rise. He was a cancer in the lockerroom, and took minutes from young developing prospects.

And I'm also fully aware that some of these "benefits" for Ayton can be potential negatives for him as well if he lets it; Bigger spotlight means more attention on any potential lack of effort, and any lockerroom issues. Playing with LEbron/Luka, and dealing with the LA spotlight can be additional distractions for a player who has been known to be mentally weak.

That said though, this is as close to a perfect situation you could expect if you're Ayton. He was heading down Andre Drummond territory, and now has a optimal chance to rebuild his value, a chance that he quite frankly didn't deserve.


Drummond followed this exact same path... He signed with the Lakers after being bought out by Cleveland and after flopping spectacularly in the playoffs (basically being benched) he was dumped and signed at the league minimum the next year....



Lots of similarities on paper, when you factor in the Buy Out, signing with the Lakers, etc, but Ayton's situation is clearly favorable compared to Drummond's.

- Ayton isn't joining with 2 months left in the season, but at the start of the year. He was far more time to make an impact
- Ayton has the security of the second season with 8m guaranteed if he wants it, which is obiovusly a plus for him while again adding more time until his next contract
- Drummond joined a Laker team with AD, whose best position clearly was Center. With the season winding down and the Lakers needing to win for playoff standings, Drummonds playing time was always going to be limited even in the best case scenario.
- Drummond joined a Laker team dominanted by Lebron. That, alongside having to play alongside AD, meant that his lack of spacing was really a bigger problem vs Ayton.
-Drummond didn't join a team with Luka (and Reaves & older version of Lebron as secondary playmakers. That Laker team really lacked playmaking which is why they traded for RW (mistakenly) the following year. This Laker team has 3 players that can break down defenses, led by Luka who is incredible at finding bigs.


So yeah, obviously Ayton's career can still go down the Drummond path, especially if he can't get his mentality together, but other than some superficial similarities, his situation is infinitely better when you look fit/role & financial security, and far preferable for his potential future earnings and his next contract.
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Re: Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers 

Post#137 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:05 am

For what LA needs him for, catching Luka lobs, rebounding, playing some D and just putting away bunnies around the hoop, he can absolutely excel at that and he should certainly outplay his contract based on that. You ask him to work harder, stay locked in more often or bring more energy or more movement...yeah you weren't getting that on $30m+ a year, you're definitely not getting that at $8m a year.
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Post#138 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:06 am

Can’t wait for this one: “Ayton misses practice after visiting the LA tar pit”
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Post#139 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:10 am

FWIW I absolute think he's better than Christian Wood and they are fundamentally different players but what annoyed a lot of fans about Wood (effort, motor, avoiding contact, attitude) is still there with DA.
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