dhsilv2 wrote:DimesandKnicks wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
Brother...did you not see what OKC did? They were averaging 115.4 points per 100. That's only 3.9 under their regular season average....against a team with the 22nd rated defense. And in the playoffs teams scored...wait umm 6.6 less points per 100 when Jokic played. So clearly...wait...wait...oh Jokic was better on defense in the playoffs than regular season?
See exposed. As a decent playoff defender!
Jokic's 2025 playoff metrics on defense:
Opp point in the paint: 215 out of 219 qualifying players and last across the C position
Opp fast break points: Jokic — the huste back on defense guy — ranked 212 out of 219 players
Opp FG Made: Jokic was 160 out of 211, one spot ahead of Jamaal Murray
Opp FG percentage: 109 out of 209, a few spots ahead of KAT
He was 5th in deflections, behind Schroeder, Josh Hart, Luka, Kawhi and Sengun. Outside of Kawhi and Schroeder I don’t consider any of these players plus defenders
When defending the ball handler on a PNR, he’s 11 in FGM. Players shoot the 31st highest FG percentage against him out of 128, in otherwords he’s 97thish out of 128 in this situation
Jokic was second in DFGM and DFGA. A few spots after him is, again, Jamaal Murray, KAT is 8 spots below him. Jokic likely would have been first, meaning no other player had more points scored on them per game in the playoffs if the player in front of him, Zubac, wasn’t responsible for guarding him.
Def FG percentage he’s ranked 55 out of 74 players who’ve defended at least 5 shot attempts.
His diff is -1.9 which is significantly better than his -0.4 in the regular season, meaning players in the regular season only shot -0.4 percent worse when he was the closest player to them, and -1.9 in the playoffs. Still, that makes him 70 out of 133 players who defended at least 5 shots a game, ahead of him are Kat, Luka, Julius Randle, and Lebron James.
These are the same stats that that I gave in last years discussions (that either you dont remember, because you called me a liar, or just don't think matters more than deflections, rebounds and kick balls, the latter of which he had none during the playoffs and only had a 13 in the regular season, a few spots behind KAT's 21ish...again one of the worse defenders I've ever seen) and the numbers are pretty much the same. I'm not sure if you can reconcile with how this impacts points, but from my viewpoint, he gets scored on the most - despite never being tasked to defend a high level offensive player-and opposing players are relatively efficient when he's the only threat between them and the basket.
So quantify it
What does quantify it mean to you? For me it means to measure or express something with numbers which I just did