Giannis wants to win now, what's your offer to get him on a real contender?

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Post#121 » by bonita_the_frog » Sat Oct 4, 2025 4:38 pm

CodeBreaker wrote:Imagine Luka and Giannis in LA

Luka's defense would become even worse, as he'd rely on Giannis to cover for him, so let's hope Luka never gets that luxury.

PhilBlackson wrote:Tired of hearing Giannis saying he supposedly wants to win now, if that were true then demand a damn trade already.

If not stfu and lay in the bed you made and just enjoy the statue in MIL in the future.

Giannis might have already demanded a trade privately to the front office, but is too classy to say it publicly.
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Post#122 » by jscott » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:39 pm

CodeBreaker wrote:Imagine Luka and Giannis in LA

Too bad Lakers have no assets worth Giannis outside of Luka.
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Post#123 » by GrindCityHustle » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:44 pm

Somehow I feel Marks would get him and build another superteam around Giannis. I still think Giannis sees how this seasons plays out as they just got Turner and might have good chemistry this year. Giannis knows people are obsessed with this question so glad he threw them the troll bone.
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Post#124 » by KGtabake » Sat Oct 4, 2025 7:40 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Tired of hearing Giannis saying he supposedly wants to win now, if that were true then demand a damn trade already.

If not stfu and lay in the bed you made and just enjoy the statue in MIL in the future.


If you're tired of hearing that a player wants to win, why bother watching sports?
What else he should have wanted? To lose?
What makes you think that he doesn't believe he can achieve that in Milwaukee?
It's not a matter of what you or me think.
It's a matter of what he thinks.
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Post#125 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Oct 4, 2025 7:55 pm

KGtabake wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Tired of hearing Giannis saying he supposedly wants to win now, if that were true then demand a damn trade already.

If not stfu and lay in the bed you made and just enjoy the statue in MIL in the future.


If you're tired of hearing that a player wants to win, why bother watching sports?
What else he should have wanted? To lose?
What makes you think that he doesn't believe he can achieve that in Milwaukee?
It's not a matter of what you or me think.
It's a matter of what he thinks.

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Post#126 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 12:54 am

Woodsanity wrote:Kat + Bridges + some spare parts and picks.


Kat + Bridges are the spare parts , no way Bucks takes this offer plus Knicks doesn’t have any picks , they all in Brooklyn
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Post#127 » by JRoy » Sun Oct 5, 2025 1:57 pm

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jscott wrote:Do you think Nico is running the Bucks? 28 teams would beat this offer.


Read the headline on what OP is asking, "real contender" not all "28 teams" as you say are contenders, and this would most likely be the Lakers offer maybe 1 or 2 more pick swaps (think they have 4or 5?), op only asked what's your offer, this would most likely be the Lakers offer or something similar - don't have to like it or hate, it's just what is.

And now you going to comeback most likely saying Lakers not real contenders.


Its very clearly a terrible offer. Pick swaps do nothing because the lakers will have an elite record with luka and giannis for the next 5 years and the bucks would be rebuilding.


Shining up those worthless swaps because they have no real assets.
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Post#128 » by Wolveswin » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:40 pm

Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:Hawks trade Porzingis, Risascher, and NAW for Giannis

Hawks line-up:

PG- Trae Young
SG - Dyson Daniels
SF - Jalen Johnson
PF - Giannis
C - Okongwu

6M: Luke Kennard

One of the weaker offers on here. Can’t trade for Giannis with out giving up best assets.

Picks are assumed btw

You need to add them.

Daniels would be in instead of NAW. But even with all the picks Hawks can actually trade, both Bucks and Giannis say no.
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Post#129 » by jbk1234 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:51 pm

GrindCityHustle wrote:Somehow I feel Marks would get him and build another superteam around Giannis. I still think Giannis sees how this seasons plays out as they just got Turner and might have good chemistry this year. Giannis knows people are obsessed with this question so glad he threw them the troll bone.


Yeah, the reality is that Giannis needs to either play the 5, or play with a stretch 5, and there just aren't that many stretch 5s who can defend. Lopez was clearly past his sell by date. Turner was the best option league wide and the Bucks went out and got him. That frontcourt pairing is critical.
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Post#130 » by Godymas » Sun Oct 5, 2025 8:14 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:One of the weaker offers on here. Can’t trade for Giannis with out giving up best assets.

Picks are assumed btw

You need to add them.

Daniels would be in instead of NAW. But even with all the picks Hawks can actually trade, both Bucks and Giannis say no.


Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.
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Post#131 » by Wolveswin » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:17 pm

Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:Picks are assumed btw

You need to add them.

Daniels would be in instead of NAW. But even with all the picks Hawks can actually trade, both Bucks and Giannis say no.


Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.
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Post#132 » by LarsV8 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:39 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:You need to add them.

Daniels would be in instead of NAW. But even with all the picks Hawks can actually trade, both Bucks and Giannis say no.


Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


In a scenario where the Bucks are taking offers, almost assuredly, Giannis has asked out and would leverage his contract status to try and land exactly where he wants to be, which is usually only 2-3 locations that likely offer a winning situation, maybe a coach he likes and perhaps city characteristics (weather, size, glam) that are appealing to him.

In these scenarios, Giannis' perceived infinite trade value crashes back down to reality fairly quickly, which end up landing in the range of those deals that Godaymas listed. I doubt the Bucks would be laughing at all in that situation, because they would be a major inflection point for the franchise, and would need to be as stoic as possible for all potential deals.

There would be on the list and off the list bidders, but those teams, are certainly going to hold back certain pieces, because they absolutely must be able to compete immediately, which means win now players, particularly complementary players, like Dyson, would be withheld from offers. Good players that play the same role as Giannis would potentially be offered, and prospects that are pre prime. Picks would be the bulk of the offers.

Milwaukee will offer Giannis an extension next offseason, and if he declines, or in any way stalls or obfuscates, they need start shopping him immediately, but quietly, to try and maximize return. In all honesty, they should ask him about a future extension today, and if they don't get anything other than absolute commitment, like Jokic just gave, they should be looking to move him today. The returns today, would FAR outweigh next years returns. Teams simply can't afford to have an asset of that caliber walk out the door, or really, get to the point where they ask for a trade.
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Post#133 » by GiannisAnte34 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:38 am

LarsV8 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


In a scenario where the Bucks are taking offers, almost assuredly, Giannis has asked out and would leverage his contract status to try and land exactly where he wants to be, which is usually only 2-3 locations that likely offer a winning situation, maybe a coach he likes and perhaps city characteristics (weather, size, glam) that are appealing to him.

In these scenarios, Giannis' perceived infinite trade value crashes back down to reality fairly quickly, which end up landing in the range of those deals that Godaymas listed. I doubt the Bucks would be laughing at all in that situation, because they would be a major inflection point for the franchise, and would need to be as stoic as possible for all potential deals.

There would be on the list and off the list bidders, but those teams, are certainly going to hold back certain pieces, because they absolutely must be able to compete immediately, which means win now players, particularly complementary players, like Dyson, would be withheld from offers. Good players that play the same role as Giannis would potentially be offered, and prospects that are pre prime. Picks would be the bulk of the offers.

Milwaukee will offer Giannis an extension next offseason, and if he declines, or in any way stalls or obfuscates, they need start shopping him immediately, but quietly, to try and maximize return. In all honesty, they should ask him about a future extension today, and if they don't get anything other than absolute commitment, like Jokic just gave, they should be looking to move him today. The returns today, would FAR outweigh next years returns. Teams simply can't afford to have an asset of that caliber walk out the door, or really, get to the point where they ask for a trade.


Sounds like the last 2 times he signed an extension
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Post#134 » by wegotthabeet » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:59 am

Milwaukee will never trade him, unless he requests it, which he won’t, but if he did Buck fans need to realize that players of his caliber never get full value, not even half of that, but who cares because it’ll never happen, he’ll just walk as a FA.
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Post#135 » by Godymas » Mon Oct 6, 2025 11:56 am

Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:You need to add them.

Daniels would be in instead of NAW. But even with all the picks Hawks can actually trade, both Bucks and Giannis say no.


Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


why would the Bucks laugh off the phone, when you have a list of 15 superstar trades that prove otherwise.

I don't get it, you're presented with overwhelming evidence of the opposite and yet you double down, it's kind of sad really.
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Post#136 » by Wolveswin » Mon Oct 6, 2025 3:53 pm

Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


why would the Bucks laugh off the phone, when you have a list of 15 superstar trades that prove otherwise.

I don't get it, you're presented with overwhelming evidence of the opposite and yet you double down, it's kind of sad really.

What is sad is you thinking previous superstar trades are some kind of comp or valuation. Every superstar trade is unique. A) how much are they really a superstar or just a great player. Superstar is a stretch for some. B) are the demanding out and what is temperature of that demand. C) contract status. D) superstar demands where to be traded. E) Luka trade shouldn’t not be used in reference of any trade. And many other variables.

Hawks if they want Giannis need to stack their good but not great assets including limited picks available in trade. That includes Daniels over NAW 100%.
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Post#137 » by Godymas » Mon Oct 6, 2025 4:09 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


why would the Bucks laugh off the phone, when you have a list of 15 superstar trades that prove otherwise.

I don't get it, you're presented with overwhelming evidence of the opposite and yet you double down, it's kind of sad really.

What is sad is you thinking previous superstar trades are some kind of comp or valuation. Every superstar trade is unique. A) how much are they really a superstar or just a great player. Superstar is a stretch for some. B) are the demanding out and what is temperature of that demand. C) contract status. D) superstar demands where to be traded. E) Luka trade shouldn’t not be used in reference of any trade. And many other variables.

Hawks if they want Giannis need to stack their good but not great assets including limited picks available in trade. That includes Daniels over NAW 100%.


What’s crazy is you thinking every NBA trade is some one sided desperation move or that Giannis is not under the age of 30. However what’s even crazier is you being presented with overwhelming evidence and then doubling down on “THIS time will be the exception”. What’s the definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
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Post#138 » by Scalabrine » Mon Oct 6, 2025 5:16 pm

The Rockets and Thunder have the best offers for him. No question.

They are truly the only teams that can trade for him while still remaining a certifiable contender.
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Post#139 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 5:23 pm

Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
why would the Bucks laugh off the phone, when you have a list of 15 superstar trades that prove otherwise.

I don't get it, you're presented with overwhelming evidence of the opposite and yet you double down, it's kind of sad really.

What is sad is you thinking previous superstar trades are some kind of comp or valuation. Every superstar trade is unique. A) how much are they really a superstar or just a great player. Superstar is a stretch for some. B) are the demanding out and what is temperature of that demand. C) contract status. D) superstar demands where to be traded. E) Luka trade shouldn’t not be used in reference of any trade. And many other variables.

Hawks if they want Giannis need to stack their good but not great assets including limited picks available in trade. That includes Daniels over NAW 100%.


What’s crazy is you thinking every NBA trade is some one sided desperation move or that Giannis is not under the age of 30. However what’s even crazier is you being presented with overwhelming evidence and then doubling down on “THIS time will be the exception”. What’s the definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result


He turns 31 on December 4th.
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Post#140 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Oct 6, 2025 6:13 pm

Godymas wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Godymas wrote:
Daniels would not be in place of NAW, every time these trade deals come up everyone just assumes teams have to give their best assets out the door to land a disgruntled star when literally every single time a major star has been moved he's gone out for much less players than you would think.

Harden went to Brooklyn for Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince, and Caris LeVert

KD went to Phoenix for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder

no team has to give up every single good player to make the deal, the picks are what matters most of the time.

just look at the list:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34277696/ranking-some-biggest-trades-two-decades-how-inform-kevin-durant-future

Literal superstars in their prime traded for guys who were forgotten within a year

so no, Daniels would not be sent out, NAW would be the best they can get because Risascher would be the rebuilding piece and Porzingis and NAW would be money and assets.

If you want the Bucks to laugh you off the phone. Sure.

Otherwise Daniels instead of NAW is required. And all those picks you didn’t list.


why would the Bucks laugh off the phone, when you have a list of 15 superstar trades that prove otherwise.

I don't get it, you're presented with overwhelming evidence of the opposite and yet you double down, it's kind of sad really.


Mikal, cam, four 1st rounders, and a swap for KD Thats actually quite the haul. Two good starting wings and 4 picks is much better than say, austin reaves, rui, and one pick lol.

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