Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves?

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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#121 » by iggymcfrack » Today 9:00 am

This is why it’s so stupid when people say “”well how can Jalen Williams possibly be a top 10 player when he’s a #2? His numbers would probably collapse if he had the defensive attention of being the #1 guy.”

In reality, that’s not how it works. Give guys the opportunity to be the top guy running the offense and you’d be surprised how many can thrive. What’s really hard is trying to find a way to fit into a gameplan for someone else in bits and pieces.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#122 » by Wagonband » Today 12:10 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:This is why it’s so stupid when people say “”well how can Jalen Williams possibly be a top 10 player when he’s a #2? His numbers would probably collapse if he had the defensive attention of being the #1 guy.”

In reality, that’s not how it works. Give guys the opportunity to be the top guy running the offense and you’d be surprised how many can thrive. What’s really hard is trying to find a way to fit into a gameplan for someone else in bits and pieces.


Both can be true. Depending on the player. There was talk of Klay being a top 10 player 5 years ago, and he would literally never make it as a no.1 on his own team. But guys like Jalen Williams and Reaves that can actually create their own shot can do it if given the chance.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#123 » by Maxthirty » Today 12:14 pm

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iggymcfrack wrote:This is why it’s so stupid when people say “”well how can Jalen Williams possibly be a top 10 player when he’s a #2? His numbers would probably collapse if he had the defensive attention of being the #1 guy.”

In reality, that’s not how it works. Give guys the opportunity to be the top guy running the offense and you’d be surprised how many can thrive. What’s really hard is trying to find a way to fit into a gameplan for someone else in bits and pieces.


Both can be true. Depending on the player. There was talk of Klay being a top 10 player 5 years ago, and he would literally never make it as a no.1 on his own team. But guys like Jalen Williams and Reaves that can actually create their own shot can do it if given the chance.


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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#124 » by Wile E. Coyote » Today 12:20 pm

Air Reaves has gone from shooting 5 free throws a game last year to 11.6 so far this year.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#125 » by Optms » Today 12:26 pm

I remember when we were told we were overrating Reeves. Now playing like a top 10 player. What a time to be alive.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#126 » by dWadeOwnzYou » Today 12:43 pm

I honestly do believe that the Lakers believes that Reaves is their 2nd best player and the piece to build the team around along with Luka. Trade asset my a$$
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Post#127 » by BrianInPhilly » Today 12:46 pm

Reaves blowing up is exactly what they shouldn’t trade him. It’s a great thing to have 2 shot creators like Luka & Reaves so you can stagger minutes, injuries, avoid double teams, etc.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#128 » by EastonEddy » Today 12:57 pm

I like Barnes for Reaves for both teams. Luka will take the ball out of Reaves hands. In playoffs Reaves is just another target on defense. Lakers are championship or bust they need to flip Reaves for a better fit.

A Reaves Luka backcourt I don't think can take them to the promised land as good as both players are. One of the two ends up guarding SGA...
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Post#129 » by Liam_Gallagher » Today 1:04 pm

Dude's amazing. Haters will say he's a systems player, but they're wrong.

Reaves is HIM.
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Post#132 » by The Master » Today 1:39 pm

Optms wrote:I remember when we were told we were overrating Reeves. Now playing like a top 10 player. What a time to be alive.

People clearly ignored how fantastic his growth trajectory has been since he was signed by the Lakers considering his age:

1st year: 7.3 PPG, 1.8 APG, -1.3 OBPM
2nd year: 13.0 PPG, 3.4 APG, 0.6 OBPM
3rd year: 15.9 PPG, 5.5 APG, 0.9 OBPM
4th year: 20.2 PPG, 5.8 APG, 2.4 OBPM

Every year, steady growth in terms of volume of boxscore production - now, the question is if he can maintain 25-7 type of production on big sample size. I bet he can.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reeves? 

Post#133 » by Shaka_Zulu » Today 1:57 pm

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Trade is off. We won’t take anything less than Anthony Edwards.




Fair enough :lol: :lol:




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Post#134 » by Big_Aristotle » Today 2:39 pm

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Mamba Mentality wrote:
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Trade is off. We won’t take anything less than Anthony Edwards.




Fair enough :lol: :lol:




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He wants to be a Laker. It wouldn't surprise me that they agree on a good deal for both sides. $30 million a year.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#135 » by dockingsched » Today 2:44 pm

The only thing that confuses me is the stark difference in opinions on how viable a Luka/AR lineup is versus how popular a lineup of Luka/Kyrie was. People loved that Luka/Kyrie lineup.

Seems like both pairings are pretty similar in their pros and cons.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#136 » by tamaraw08 » Today 3:03 pm

EastonEddy wrote:I like Barnes for Reaves for both teams. Luka will take the ball out of Reaves hands. In playoffs Reaves is just another target on defense. Lakers are championship or bust they need to flip Reaves for a better fit.

A Reaves Luka backcourt I don't think can take them to the promised land as good as both players are. One of the two ends up guarding SGA...


Please tell me you are referring to Scottie and not the 33 year old Harrison for your proposed trade. :wink:
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#137 » by Airmiess » 57 minutes ago

It looks like hes actually a good player and artificially inflated.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#138 » by Airmiess » 57 minutes ago

It looks like hes actually a good player and artificially inflated.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#139 » by tamaraw08 » 52 minutes ago

dockingsched wrote:The only thing that confuses me is the stark difference in opinions on how viable a Luka/AR lineup is versus how popular a lineup of Luka/Kyrie was. People loved that Luka/Kyrie lineup.

Seems like both pairings are pretty similar in their pros and cons.


I love AR but Kyrie has proven to be a great playoff performer averaging 23/5 at 39% from 3.
Irving stepped up when they upset the mighty GSW team in 2016 with 27/4/4, with 2.1 steals shooting 40.5% from 3. I think he averaged 33pts the final 3 games of that championship series.
Reaves OTOH had career low in pts at 16.2pts in the last playoffs, just shot 32% from 3, also career low in FTA, EFG%, highest turnovers etc.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#140 » by zero rings » 42 minutes ago

Are we sure he isn't white James Harden? Or Jalen Brunson?

Dude is gifted offensively. Give Reaves his own team and he'd be making All-NBA teams.

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