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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#121 » by HMFFL » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:37 am

Jimmy76 wrote:
maybe they could promise to donate all fine money to the crisis

then whenever anyone gets fined they could say they were donating

win-win money for those in need, good pr for the league, and good pr for the players getting fined


The NBA has already done enough with the donation they gave. I'd prefer them to continue to focus on the organizations they currently work with and not just focus on Haiti. The total for suspensions, fines, and technical fouls was roughly $8 million last year. That money is going to good causes around the world and it should stay that way. People are acting as if the NBA should be the ones responsible for helping Haiti when they already do so much to help other causes around the world.

Example: Various NBA charities received $330,500 from Rasheed Wallace for his fines last year, so technically he donated it to charity, because that's exactly what the NBA puts it towards.
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Post#122 » by Lakers05 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:41 am

In addition, we can just redirect our soldiers over there. I mean, really, what better way to help promote world peace by having the soldiers helping them rebuild, not just Haiti, but all of the 3rd World Countries, instead of waging war with them?
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Post#123 » by TheDunc » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:57 am

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PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Manocad you sound ridiculous. I thought you were a smart dude i guess not. The nba is a multi billion dollar industry. 1 million dollars is pennies for them. Your stupid idea that i cant critize a billion dollar industry for being cheap because i dont give 1 million dollars is freaking stupid. Did i say i was perfect? im not in a position to be able to give money, im 18 years old and paying for school.

Im more critical towards athletes because there sole reason for having a job is because people pay to watch them. So at the very least they should be giving back more then pocket change.


Hey, I have no issues with your passion and your want to have people help/donate and aid this tragedy.

But the NBA on it's own is not a multi-billion dollar industry. It is the governing body that overseas a collective that is a multi billion dollar industry.

Its an organization based on the individual teams wealth.


The problem i have is you have players like brian cardinal makes 7 million dollars a year and playing squat. Now people in haiti who need shelter and supplies to prevent future death are only being given 1 million. 1 million is nothing now days. Why are you guys protecting the nba so much? im pretty sure these people are flying in private jets and have huge mansions. Im not allowed to be critical towards them? If im not critical along with other people then the nba will continue to donate less money as possible
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Re: 1 Million? Seriously? 

Post#124 » by HMFFL » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:59 am

Lakers05 wrote:What do people think of this idea:

I think in addition to donating, the best thing people can do to help is to go over there and help them build houses. If you think about it, most of our salaries in the Western Hemisphere go to our house(the government artificially inflates the house prices, just so that you have to work your entire life, essentially "enslaving" you.)


I mean no disrespect, but how about you go over there, because you sure make it sound like an easy fix. Are you prepared to build homes for 3 million people?

The houses don't have to be intricate. They just need to be able to withstand earthquakes, and don't even need to be consisted of separate rooms(except for the restrooms), if they think the cost of wood is too high for that. People can sleep anywhere with a pillow, so in reality, the purpose of a house is merely to protect them from rain. If they're worried about privacy, then just put doors on the restroom and the showers. They just won't be able to watch porn, that's all.


I believe the magnitude of the earthquake was 7.0 so good luck with that idea. You're better off driving telephones into the ground, stitching tarps together, and making homemade tents that stretch for miles for the people to live under.

Lakers05 wrote:In addition, we can just redirect our soldiers over there. I mean, really, what better way to help promote world peace by having the soldiers helping them rebuild, not just Haiti, but all of the 3rd World Countries, instead of waging war with them?


Our soldiers sign-up to be soldiers and NOT carpenters, or to do that type of physical labor. I won't even comment further on that.
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Post#125 » by Flash3 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:01 am

^ our soldiers are here to serve and protect us 1st and foremost (so all respect to them for that). :usa:
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Post#126 » by LLcoleJ » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:33 am

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:
Phil X wrote:
PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Manocad you sound ridiculous. I thought you were a smart dude i guess not. The nba is a multi billion dollar industry. 1 million dollars is pennies for them. Your stupid idea that i cant critize a billion dollar industry for being cheap because i dont give 1 million dollars is freaking stupid. Did i say i was perfect? im not in a position to be able to give money, im 18 years old and paying for school.

Im more critical towards athletes because there sole reason for having a job is because people pay to watch them. So at the very least they should be giving back more then pocket change.


Hey, I have no issues with your passion and your want to have people help/donate and aid this tragedy.

But the NBA on it's own is not a multi-billion dollar industry. It is the governing body that overseas a collective that is a multi billion dollar industry.

Its an organization based on the individual teams wealth.


The problem i have is you have players like brian cardinal makes 7 million dollars a year and playing squat. Now people in haiti who need shelter and supplies to prevent future death are only being given 1 million. 1 million is nothing now days. Why are you guys protecting the nba so much? im pretty sure these people are flying in private jets and have huge mansions. Im not allowed to be critical towards them? If im not critical along with other people then the nba will continue to donate less money as possible


What do you think the NBA has to do with Players contracts? Do you think they have control over them?
I am not defending the NBA. I am trying to clarify that the NBA is not some uber-rich entity that prints money. It's wealth is laced within it's individual teams value.
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Post#127 » by TheDunc » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:35 am

Well i need something cleared up. Where is the one million being donated from? i thought originally that it was all 30 teams and players that kind of just pitched in money together for the lump sum of 1 million?
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Post#128 » by Lakers05 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:37 am

HFMML, if it wasn't for certain knowledge that I think I can impart in this world(on different sites), yes, I would have gone over there. In fact, right now, I'm waiting for a certain event, if it doesn't happen, I plan to give away everything I own in a few years, because life in general sucks. Seriously, I like sports, my team are almost guaranteed to win, yet I get little joy from it. I can't even imagine how you people who are fans of inferior teams put up with the losing. Marriage sucks, because most girls are not so well, good-looking(though I do think there's a way to change that also, and I don't mean by surgery.)

Now I do admit that I cannot build those houses alone, but that's why there needs to be a collective effort. If every one of us or in the "civilized" world was to stop wasting so much time on sports and focused on eliminating poverty, which does NOT require a lot of resources or money(at least nothing that can't be renewed), but only manpower, we can easily do so.

There are three things that are necessities(I think they even teach you this in health class), and that's shelter, food and water. Shelter is the most difficult one, food is something everyone can grow by themselves, and water is abundant.
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Post#129 » by LLcoleJ » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:41 am

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Well i need something cleared up. Where is the one million being donated from? i thought originally that it was all 30 teams and players that kind of just pitched in money together for the lump sum of 1 million?


In this case, it appears to be donated from the NBA, not a collective of all NBA franchises " pitching in".

I assume ( because there needs to be more clarification) that the individual team owners and players will also donate as they see fit.
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The NBA should do a player fund for hati. 

Post#130 » by SixSevenShooter » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:42 am

Ontop of the million.
Seriously. All the cash these guys are wracking up (some more deserved then others) . If all they did was cough up a thousand per player.. theres about 400-450 nba players . Thats about 450k - 500k. That would go along way. Thats only 1 thousand too.

All sports for that matter.

But seriously.. no? anyone?
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Post#131 » by LLcoleJ » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:43 am

Lakers05 wrote:HFMML, if it wasn't for certain knowledge that I think I can impart in this world(on different sites), yes, I would have gone over there. In fact, right now, I'm waiting for a certain event, if it doesn't happen, I plan to give away everything I own in a few years, because life in general sucks. Seriously, I like sports, my team are almost guaranteed to win, yet I get little joy from it. I can't even imagine how you people who are fans of inferior teams put up with the losing. Marriage sucks, because most girls are not so well, good-looking(though I do think there's a way to change that also, and I don't mean by surgery.)

Now I do admit that I cannot build those houses alone, but that's why there needs to be a collective effort. If every one of us or in the "civilized" world was to stop wasting so much time on sports and focused on eliminating poverty, which does NOT require a lot of resources or money(at least nothing that can't be renewed), but only manpower, we can easily do so.

There are three things that are necessities(I think they even teach you this in health class), and that's shelter, food and water. Shelter is the most difficult one, food is something everyone can grow by themselves, and water is abundant.


This posts explains alot of what I have wondered about you for years.
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Post#132 » by jefe » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:45 am

How does 400-450 players giving up one thousand a piece become 450k-500k dollars?
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Post#133 » by KeithMoonsLiver » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:47 am

It's their money, they should do whatever they want with it. If they want to buy cocaine and hookers, great. If they want to give it away to "charities" that funnel it to 3rd world dictators, great.
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Post#134 » by noobcake » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:47 am

jefe wrote:How does 400-450 players giving up one thousand a piece become 450k-500k dollars?

...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#135 » by Flash3 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:49 am

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Well i need something cleared up. Where is the one million being donated from? i thought originally that it was all 30 teams and players that kind of just pitched in money together for the lump sum of 1 million?

You'd think before criticizing something/someone, people would get all the right information, and then make a valid point for/against w/ever it is. :lol:
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Post#136 » by Manocad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:54 am

Where's the fun in that?
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Post#137 » by TheDunc » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:06 am

Well it wasnt clarified in the post. It says the nba, for me the nba includes teams,players,gm's,coaches, commisioner,etc. I just think as a whole the nba including players,gm's,etc need to donate more then 1 million. If they plan on doing so then hats off to them.
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Post#138 » by Lakers05 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:09 am

Phil X wrote:
Lakers05 wrote:HFMML, if it wasn't for certain knowledge that I think I can impart in this world(on different sites), yes, I would have gone over there. In fact, right now, I'm waiting for a certain event, if it doesn't happen, I plan to give away everything I own in a few years, because life in general sucks. Seriously, I like sports, my team are almost guaranteed to win, yet I get little joy from it. I can't even imagine how you people who are fans of inferior teams put up with the losing. Marriage sucks, because most girls are not so well, good-looking(though I do think there's a way to change that also, and I don't mean by surgery.)

Now I do admit that I cannot build those houses alone, but that's why there needs to be a collective effort. If every one of us or in the "civilized" world was to stop wasting so much time on sports and focused on eliminating poverty, which does NOT require a lot of resources or money(at least nothing that can't be renewed), but only manpower, we can easily do so.

There are three things that are necessities(I think they even teach you this in health class), and that's shelter, food and water. Shelter is the most difficult one, food is something everyone can grow by themselves, and water is abundant.


This posts explains alot of what I have wondered about you for years.


If this event doesn't happen, then it would confirm that there most likely is no afterlife, in which case I'm at peace.
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Post#139 » by Flash3 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:14 am

PopsMensahBonsu wrote:Well it wasnt clarified in the post. It says the nba, for me the nba includes teams,players,gm's,coaches, commisioner,etc. I just think as a whole the nba including players,gm's,etc need to donate more then 1 million. If they plan on doing so then hats off to them.

No one NEEDS to do anything because you or John or Sam feel they need to. -- Just because a person is wealthy doesn't automatically mean they NEED to do something. Should they, yes most probably. But, need? Nope.
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Post#140 » by Scuall » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:19 am

Lakers05 wrote:The houses don't have to be intricate. They just need to be able to withstand earthquakes, and don't even need to be consisted of separate rooms(except for the restrooms), if they think the cost of wood is too high for that.


Building to seismic code is very specific, very laborious, very expensive and takes exceptional skill.

HMFFL wrote:Our soldiers sign-up to be soldiers and NOT carpenters, or to do that type of physical labor. I won't even comment further on that.


I take it you've never heard of combat engineers, Seabees, Red Horse, etc. I spent 15 years as a civilian engineer working for the USACE and USAR Engineers. I've spent a considerable time on humanitarian and disaster response projects, with hundreds of uniformed soldiers happy to wield an M-16 and a hammer.
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