Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1201 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:44 am

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Nate505 wrote:
Nuntius wrote:It's different because it's Artest. Bynum is a sore loser and an ass. He will make a dirty play when he loses. But at least he will think.

RonRon is not an ass. He is just not sane enough to play in the league.


It's true. I was reading up on the Palace brawl and he actually asked his teammates if they were going to get in trouble for their actions after it was over...he truly is either extremely stupid or extremely insane, or both.


Exactly my point. He does not know the consequence of his actions. It was extremely clear on his tweets.

Frankly, I would be fine if he was just an ass. Asses can think. They can think about the consequences, they can think about themselves, hell they could even think about the money that they would lose due to the suspension. But they would at least think about it. And just by thinking about it, they could have stopped.

Ron will simply not think. That's the disturbing part. He enters a blank state of mind and just acts on his instincts. That's dangerous for every player in the league. Even his teammates. Who can assure them that he won't hit them the next time the screw gets loose?


Ron's aways had a screw or two loose.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1202 » by The MVPlaya » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:45 am

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The MVPlaya wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgB2e5AQiYw[/youtube]

Go to 0:56. Clearly shows Harden sliding over to make contact with Artest. Why is he doing that?


He took one step? Maybe a screen for a quick outlet to Durant? Who knows? And honestly who cares. It's basketball and these types of interactions with players bumping into each other happens every game after a shot is made. How are Laker fans trying to justify this? It's a swinging elbow to the back of the head END OF STORY. 15-20 game suspension


You're reaching it. Harden initiated the contact with Artest. He provoked a reaction by going out of his way to give Ron a bump. He got what he was asking for I guess. Don't start none won't be none.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1203 » by JunkYardSubs » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:47 am

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You're reaching it. Harden initiated the contact with Artest. He provoked a reaction by going out of his way to give Ron a bump. He got what he was asking for I guess. Don't start none won't be none.


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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1204 » by pross » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:48 am

The MVPlaya wrote:You're reaching it. Harden initiated the contact with Artest. He provoked a reaction by going out of his way to give Ron a bump. He got what he was asking for I guess. Don't start none won't be none.


How am I reaching? Players ALWAYS bump into other players. Have you ever played basketball? This happens ALL THE TIME. How did he provoke him? A bump? Are you serious? Once again, if this was Perkins on Kobe I guarantee you'd be singing a different tune. Really just think what you're saying here for a second.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1205 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:49 am

The MVPlaya wrote:
pross wrote:
The MVPlaya wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgB2e5AQiYw[/youtube]

Go to 0:56. Clearly shows Harden sliding over to make contact with Artest. Why is he doing that?


He took one step? Maybe a screen for a quick outlet to Durant? Who knows? And honestly who cares. It's basketball and these types of interactions with players bumping into each other happens every game after a shot is made. How are Laker fans trying to justify this? It's a swinging elbow to the back of the head END OF STORY. 15-20 game suspension


You're reaching it. Harden initiated the contact with Artest. He provoked a reaction by going out of his way to give Ron a bump. He got what he was asking for I guess. Don't start none won't be none.


That's just wrong on so many levels... shove him? sure... throw an elbow to the back of his head? No no no... So you can't initiate contact in a full contact sport without fear of being hit with an elbow in the back of the head? What the hell is that... Guys can't set screens on Metta because it ain't his fault if he elbows them in the dome? They asked for it...
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1206 » by sick_irony » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:50 am

Well at least he had the common sense to apologize right after the game:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9zQQNWh_4[/youtube]
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1207 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:51 am

sick_irony wrote:Well at least he had the common sense to apologize right after the game:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9zQQNWh_4[/youtube]


He sounded nervous... He's not going to get treated like a regular player in this one... nor should he.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1208 » by Nuntius » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:56 am

MastaStrategist wrote:We'll see. The most games I've heard from anyone other than a RealGM poster was 5 games. I've seen anywhere from a light fine to a lifetime ban on here :lol:


I've seen people asking for more in other forums as well. It's not only RealGM.

Yeah, if it was anyone else that threw the punch then a 5 game or possibly a 10 game suspension would suffice. But it was Artest. You cannot take this lightly simply because it was Artest that did it. It's come to a point where the league has to question if Ron is mentally fit to play in this league.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1209 » by INKtastic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:56 am

MastaStrategist wrote:We'll see. The most games I've heard from anyone other than a RealGM poster was 5 games. I've seen anywhere from a light fine to a lifetime ban on here :lol:


you must not have looked very hard - I found these in 2 minutes

Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com "MWP should be suspended for the first two rounds of the playoffs. If the league wants to deter this kind of behavior, then deter."

Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine "I would give MWP 15 games. Last year Andrew Bynum got five for leveling Barea with a far less violent hit. Where the elbow made contact is extremely important -- right behind Harden's ear. The level of danger cannot be overstated. There's a reason neither boxing nor MMA allow hits behind the ear. Lastly, it appeared to be completely intentional. It had nothing whatsoever to do with basketball."

Jill Painter, LA Daily News: "He might not get a chance. We might not see World Peace in the playoffs, depending on how the Lakers play and how long the suspension will be."
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1210 » by Nuntius » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:58 am

ibraheim718 wrote:Ron's aways had a screw or two loose.


True. And that's why they should seriously consider about a permanent ban.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1211 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:58 am

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MastaStrategist wrote:We'll see. The most games I've heard from anyone other than a RealGM poster was 5 games. I've seen anywhere from a light fine to a lifetime ban on here :lol:


you must not have looked very hard

Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com "MWP should be suspended for the first two rounds of the playoffs. If the league wants to deter this kind of behavior, then deter."

Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine "I would give MWP 15 games. Last year Andrew Bynum got five for leveling Barea with a far less violent hit. Where the elbow made contact is extremely important -- right behind Harden's ear. The level of danger cannot be overstated. There's a reason neither boxing nor MMA allow hits behind the ear. Lastly, it appeared to be completely intentional. It had nothing whatsoever to do with basketball."

Jill Painter, LA Daily News: "He might not get a chance. We might not see World Peace in the playoffs, depending on how the Lakers play and how long the suspension will be."


Goodell would do this one without hesitation. Stern might want to prove a point... But he's kind of soft.

I'm going to say 10 games... No less than 5 for sure.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1212 » by MastaStrategist » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:59 am

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MastaStrategist wrote:We'll see. The most games I've heard from anyone other than a RealGM poster was 5 games. I've seen anywhere from a light fine to a lifetime ban on here :lol:


you must not have looked very hard

Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com "MWP should be suspended for the first two rounds of the playoffs. If the league wants to deter this kind of behavior, then deter."

Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine "I would give MWP 15 games. Last year Andrew Bynum got five for leveling Barea with a far less violent hit. Where the elbow made contact is extremely important -- right behind Harden's ear. The level of danger cannot be overstated. There's a reason neither boxing nor MMA allow hits behind the ear. Lastly, it appeared to be completely intentional. It had nothing whatsoever to do with basketball."

Jill Painter, LA Daily News: "He might not get a chance. We might not see World Peace in the playoffs, depending on how the Lakers play and how long the suspension will be."


Never even heard of those guys :dontknow:

But the NBA analyts like Smith, Barry, and even Steven A. were predicting 5 games at most
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1213 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:59 am

Nuntius wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:Ron's aways had a screw or two loose.


True. And that's why they should seriously consider about a permanent ban.


Permanent is going to far... The rest of the season I wouldn't be surprised. It's going to come quick too.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1214 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:00 am

sick_irony wrote:Well at least he had the common sense to apologize right after the game:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9zQQNWh_4[/youtube]


Yeah, I believe him.

He said the right things.

It will be interesting to see what happens from here...

Watching Ron, his temperament reminds me of a dog our family once had. Some dogs bite. I took the dog to the vet and as I was trying to hold him, the dog bit me. That dog was a dog that bites. It was in his nature. I really couldn't get too upset about it. I panicked the dog ... I guess ... and he bit me. The next time, I let the trained pros handle him.

In Ron Artest's case, I sort of understand. I don't think Stern will, however.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1215 » by Jimmy Recard » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:01 am

sick_irony wrote:Well at least he had the common sense to apologize right after the game:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9zQQNWh_4[/youtube]

"It was unfortunate that James had to get hit by an unintentional elbow".

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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1216 » by ClayDavis » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:04 am

way too much emotion on this one for people. dont expect more than 5 espeically with the playoff factored in. raja bell only got one for what he did to kobe. some people on the site demanded 20 for bynum he only got 5. you draconian judges dont handle things its stu jackson who can look at things more objectively than the site's emotionally drunk suggestions
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1217 » by KF10 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:05 am

MWP's elbow kinda remind me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg4t0eNiuPM[/youtube]
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1218 » by Jimmy Recard » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:05 am

INKtastic wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:We'll see. The most games I've heard from anyone other than a RealGM poster was 5 games. I've seen anywhere from a light fine to a lifetime ban on here :lol:


you must not have looked very hard - I found these in 2 minutes

Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com "MWP should be suspended for the first two rounds of the playoffs. If the league wants to deter this kind of behavior, then deter."

Chris Palmer, ESPN The Magazine "I would give MWP 15 games. Last year Andrew Bynum got five for leveling Barea with a far less violent hit. Where the elbow made contact is extremely important -- right behind Harden's ear. The level of danger cannot be overstated. There's a reason neither boxing nor MMA allow hits behind the ear. Lastly, it appeared to be completely intentional. It had nothing whatsoever to do with basketball."

Jill Painter, LA Daily News: "He might not get a chance. We might not see World Peace in the playoffs, depending on how the Lakers play and how long the suspension will be."

Depending on how long he is suspended and what unfolds for the Lakers in the playoffs, that might very well have been Ron's last game as a Laker. Way to go out with a bang.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1219 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:07 am

ClayDavis wrote:way too much emotion on this one for people. dont expect more than 5 espeically with the playoff factored in. raja bell only got one for what he did to kobe. some people on the site demanded 20 for bynum he only got 5. you draconian judges dont handle things its stu jackson who can look at things more objectively than the site's emotionally drunk suggestions


You're just glossing over a huge fact when the suspension gets rendered... Ron isn't raja... he has a history in the NBA they'll hold that against him.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1220 » by Stunnaboy2K11 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:08 am

KF10 wrote:MWP's elbow kinda remind me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg4t0eNiuPM[/youtube]


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