Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

[Nuntius]

When tied, do teams advance by direct comparison? Does that LTU has to win the next two games, while Bosnia loses both, so that LTU can advance?

The first tie-break criterion is points, not head-to-head result.

By points, they do not mean points scored in games, but points earned in group stage (2 points for a win, 1 point for a loss). Therefore, to answer lambchop question, Bosnia and Herzegovina will play France tomorrow. Should they win against France, they will advance and Lithuania is out. If Bosnia and Herzegovina, however, loses against France and Lithuania manages to win against Hungary, then everything will be decided in the last game. Bosnia and Herzegovina plays Lithuania - whoever wins, advances.

Ow. I'm stupid then. Thanks for the correction!

[PlatinumState]

Sengun and Wagner has been ballin

[UcanUwill]

So they're scheduling a lot of back to back matches?

Do they do that for the UEFA cup?


Also have previous Eurobasket tournaments had all these competitive games, multiple BOTs and such? Especially at Group Stage?

Eurobaskets do have great games, I do however cant think of Eurobasket with so much star power, very high level basketball, high scoring games, lots of players with amazing individual performances.

[lambchop]

What's interesting is that Korkmaz clearly signals that he wants to go to the back to fight. It's a typical gesture used to look tough, but it seems as though the Georgian players literally believed he actually wanted to fight.

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[Dzon Dilindzer]

france have the ball in their court, they can calculate what to do

lose on purpose against bosnia & herzegovina and get 4th seed, which would knock-out lithuania out of the competition, but in that case they would probably face spain (who is not as good as they used to be) in the next round, but if they win against spain, they would have an easier opponent in the 1/4 final

if they beat bosnia & herzegovina and get 3rd seed, they will have an easier opponent in the next round, but then they will have much, much tougher opponent in the 1/4 final

personally, i think the easier road to the medal for france is if they choose first option, but i hope they will play to win and may the better team win, simple as that

[Bodiroga13]

1) Say what you want about Greek team (inconsistency, terrible shooting, no medals the last 10-ish years) but we never lose on purpose in order to avoid a strong team.

2) Literally, any team can beat us, i wouldn't bet a single Euro on us, however, at this moment, i am afraid of only two teams: Serbia and France.

3) Watching Eurobasket, i realise how great and amazing would Euroleague and Eurocup would be, if European players stayed in Europe instead of going to NBA.
Imagine Giannis, Jokic, Gobert, Valanciunas, Wagner, Sengun, Bogdanovic x2, Domantas etc, playing in Euroleague.
Euroleague would be crazy af.

But, ignorant Europeans prefer spending their money and watching football. Watching a corrupt organization- money laundering as UEFA, tampering games.

This is the reason NBA is the greatest sport event of the world. Because they keep their product clean and crystal clear.
There is salary cap, there is economic equality for the teams, worst teams choose the best young players drafting them and getting better, and any team can get the championship.
I envy them

[Pachinko_]

This is the reason NBA is the greatest sport event of the world. Because they keep their product clean and crystal clear.
There is salary cap, there is economic equality for the teams, worst teams choose the best young players drafting them and getting better, and any team can get the championship.
I envy them

We can discuss if this is the best system or not (in my opinion it isn't because professional teams lose the opportunity to build their own youth academies and develop their own talent from a young age). But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

What matters is that Americans get the best of basketball and the best of our players, because they deserve it, because they love the game more than we do. They've earned it, and we haven't. That is the bitter truth. We let our players get away because we can't pay them, because we just don't love the game enough. Simple. Lithuanians and former Yugoslavs love basketball to death, but they are not enough to create the massive fanbase required to pay for the best of the best. They will always produce players, and they will always go where the game is loved the most. America.

[Nuntius]

Israel is about to lose to Poland which means that Serbia will be left as the only unbeaten team in group D.

[jk31]

Important note, as this is absolutely true! Now as germany went on to win the first 3 games the game against slovenia is absolutely must-win now! It isn't really that important who you face in the eigth-finals from group A. Sure, playing against turkey in Berlin would be like a road game. But it is more important that you reach seed 1 to not go up against greece in the quarterfinals.

...or seed 4.

correct. I was just going from my german perspective, I think with 3 wins seed 4 is "out of reach".

[lambchop]

So Avdija is really gonna finish this game with 3 points in 27 minutes as the leader of the team?

[Bodiroga13]

This is the reason NBA is the greatest sport event of the world. Because they keep their product clean and crystal clear.
There is salary cap, there is economic equality for the teams, worst teams choose the best young players drafting them and getting better, and any team can get the championship.
I envy them

We can discuss if this is the best system or not (in my opinion it isn't because professional teams lose the opportunity to build their own youth academies and develop their own talent from a young age). But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

What matters is that Americans get the best of basketball and the best of our players, because they deserve it, because they love the game more than we do. They've earned it, and we haven't. That is the bitter truth. We let our players get away because we can't pay them, because we just don't love the game enough. Simple. Lithuanians and former Yugoslavs love basketball to death, but they are not enough to create the massive fanbase required to pay for the best of the best. They will always produce players, and they will always go where the game is loved the most. America.

Yes, this is,undeniably, the bitter truth. That's the reason i respect and like so much Lithuania and former Yugoslavia's countries, because they are the "jewel in Europe's basketball crown".
Greeks love basketball too, there is a kinda strong fan base in Spain and Italy, but the problem here is that rich European countries like France, England, Germany etc don't give a **** about basketball. People in these countries prefer spending their money and watching football. With economic collapse on its way due to war in Ukraine, European's basketball fate is sealed, among other most important things ofc: European football will find its way, but European basketball is deader than dead.

We will always have NBA though

[sunsbg]

Problems for all those Europeans is the same. They have leading role, can shoot without limits, have big minutes in their NT and are physically adequate for competition. What would Vezenkov get in Suns? How will he looked in very limited role in environment, where he will have to compete with physically more gifted players?

That's true, no EL star will go to NBA to be a bench warmer. You would think some of those lottery, middle of the pack teams will promise a good EL player mins though. The game has become less physical and much more EU players friendly. Luka fans should know this very well. Young players now have a ton of video to watch before stepping a foot on NBA floor. There is no language barrier like in the past. You could be right though and Vezenkov could look just like this guy if he were to play for the Suns.

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[Nuntius]

Estonia tried hard but came up short in the end.

The good thing in this EuroBasket is that even the relatively weaker teams (like Hungary and Estonia) are very competitive. Hungary almost beat France yesterday and Estonia almost beat Croatia today. That's what makes a good tournament. When every game can go either way.

[UcanUwill]

Greeks sitting out Giannis, but it looks like he might need to play in this, Brits arent going anywhere yet.

[Gusto1903]

For the record. F the Georgians

[Bologna Smasher]

Still disappointed we couldn't bring Vezenkov over. Now would've been the best time to do it since he's already 27.

Continue to be impressed with Mamukelashvili. Bucks have no reason to not put him in the rotation this season.

Sabonis and Valanciunas are two of my favorite players, so it sucks to see Lithuania struggle again. Also sad to see Jonas' monster performance go to waste.

[skones]

Still disappointed we couldn't bring Vezenkov over. Now would've been the best time to do it since he's already 27.

Continue to be impressed with Mamukelashvili. Bucks have no reason to not put him in the rotation this season.

Sabonis and Valanciunas are two of my favorite players, so it sucks to see Lithuania struggle again. Also sad to see Jonas' monster performance go to waste.

There's the whole defense thing that's a pretty big issue and I'm one of the Mamu truthers. He's on a two way still which is ideal. Keep bringing him along and he'll be restricted after this season. At that point, hopefully he learns to defend with more physicality. He relies too much on finesse and he doesn't have the quickness or speed at the NBA level.

Super unique player though. Supremely talented on the offensive end of the floor for 6'9 240.

[darmani]

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[CharityStripe34]

Sloukas looked awesome for Greece against Britain, even accounting for Britain not being a good team. He was manipulating the pick-and-roll like he normally does for Olympiakos. Papagiannis looked in good shape too for not playing most of the summer. Kosta Ante coming back strong can really make Greece dangerous, since they're really good defensively and in transition.

[Mavrelous]

Stop it Micic, they're already dead