Kilroy wrote:Educator wrote:Kilroy wrote:
I think what may have happened is the Lakers are back in the KD and Kyrie picture, now that the price for KD has fallen significantly...
I also think Klutch has been trying to find a way to get Simmons to LA with Kyrie...
For the record, I don't think either of those things will happen, but the Kyrie thing is too small a gap to not have gone down already... There has to be something bigger at work, and there's still time to swing for the fences. So, I think that's what Klutch/The Lakers are doing...
What makes you think the price for KD has fallen? That the offers in the middle of July haven't met the asking price in no way means the price has fallen.
If there are multiple reports that say basically, the Nets haven't gotten the offers they expected to get for KD, or that the market for KD is smaller than expected, or that the interest in KD isn't there... The details may not be accurate, but it's pretty safe to bet the market for KD is no where near what Brooklyn thought it would be...
I think teams are past the name recognition and are looking at the actual body of work since his injury, and adjusting accordingly... If you aren't already an established team, do you want to leverage your future on KD? And if you are an established team with aging core players, do you want to leverage your future on KD?
I think more teams are answering NO to this than maybe we would have expected at the beginning of the summer...
I think you're looking at this completely wrong.
I don't even know the offers are actually bad right now. What we have heard, is the Nets want some ridiculous offers, such as KAT, 4 unprotected picks and 3-4 swaps, + some. Or another teams star, a blue chip prospect, plus every pick not tied down.
They're starting high. Unrealistically high for any player in the league, pretty much even Luka or Morant, or Giannis. Because no matter how good a player is, no matter the age, contract, etc., you cannot literally down to the letter gut your team and expect to go anywhere, or keep the superstar you're trading for happy.
Once they're a little more realistic with their demands, and once KD realizes he isn't going to dictate the exact team he wants to go to, when he has 4 full seasons remaining on his deal, the sooner a true bidding war, with actual good offers for all parties, will manifest itself.
As a Laker fan, I could see it either way, if by some miracle, we were able to land both KD and Kyrie, while keeping LeBron (presumably), maybe we'd be pretty good... But there's a lot of flaws in that roster and I have a feeling, just like for us and Brooklyn the last few years, those flaws would manifest themselves... Too many old, fragile dudes and egos...
And then we'd be left with an embarrassing failure and no assets to build with going forward...
Lol, even as a passing thought, this is so embarrassingly biased. There is no way you're getting KD and Kyrie, while keeping LeBron, at least and especially with how paltry your assets are. And then more so, to pontificate some version of how this is even a debatable move, instead of a, "Are the Nets high on meth laced heroin-crack-cocaine infused mushrooms?! No take backs!"
Even trying to contemplate what else you could get for AD league-wide, or the fact Westbrook and those 2 picks would get you almost nothing either, Idk man... Like to me, AD brings you little in the form of a rebuild package himself anymore and not much in the form of another star for star swap. He's shown himself less durable then ever, and it's not even talked about how seldom motivated he seems either, along with his outside shooting regressing to irrespectable levels.
If a deal goes down where you do get both, please bump this and call me out unmercifully and put me in my place lol.
