Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued

Post #1241 » by **INKtastic** » Sun May 8, 2011 1:46 pm

LeBron calls a reporter (Please Use More Appropriate Word)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JlOqzxp_w[/youtube]

And Bill Walton's best line ever

"Getting pummeled here in game three, the Miami Heat must know that Heart is spelled with an r and purposefully left it off their jerseys." - Bill Walton

3gbrrrfkyt · Post #1242 » by **3gbrrrfkyt** » Sun May 8, 2011 1:48 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNpHqqbZHXw[/youtube]
rondo is a beast

93 Phillies · Post #1243 » by **93 Phillies** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:02 pm

It was aggressive by Wade, but it's not out of character. He never backs down. Rondo deserves what comes to him if he plays like a punk.

Post #1244 » by **kyphi** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:03 pm

The Heat are not going to play afraid - and both teams can be physical and "dirty" - it's the play-offs; the thing is to not get caught. I am sincerely glad rondo did not get a sprain or break. the one-armed man

cb4_89 · Post #1245 » by **cb4_89** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:04 pm

LanFill wrote:
Tuff Gong wrote:

Karma is a what, LeBron? Oh yeah, that's right. This is the guy people are defending and calling Dwyane Wade dirty?

What does Rondo's play on Hinrich years ago have to do with Wade taking down Rondo? Nothing.

That "foul" by Rondo on Hinrich was a lot more dirty than the foul by Wade. The unfortunate part was that Rondo was hurt. If he wasn't hurt, most people would have forgotten it by now (as Wade did get called for a foul).

Conclusion · Post #1246 » by **Conclusion** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:07 pm

LanFill wrote:
Tuff Gong wrote:

Karma is a what, LeBron? Oh yeah, that's right. This is the guy people are defending and calling Dwyane Wade dirty?

What does Rondo's play on Hinrich years ago have to do with Wade taking down Rondo? Nothing.

It's quite simple really. Dwyane Wade's take-down was dirty, but not malicious. I will agree to that. Some people are viewing as though Wade is the only villain in dirty play and the Celtics are saints. That clearly isn't the case. First of all, this is playoff basketball. People play dirty. Second of all, the Celtics are just as dirty. So the hate on Wade's dirty play is way overstated. I'm pretty sure mostly everyone will agree that Dwyane Wade's play was dirty, but this happens all the time and shouldn't be such a big deal.

Fantaxp7 · Post #1247 » by **Fantaxp7** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:12 pm

Whatever. You guys can downplay the dirty play by Wade all you want. Why even bother though? Does it really make that play look less bad? I have never thought of Wade as a dirty player but that was a dirty play.

And yes, plenty of other players get away with dirty little plays like that one, INCLUDING the Celtics, no one is disagreeing with you all.

XSnipes · Post #1248 » by **XSnipes** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:20 pm

So the Celtics are allowed to poke at people eyes, set illegal screens and hold players by the arm, and dive into players for fouls, but when someone gets hurt (even if it isn't Wade's fault that Rondo positioned his arm like that.) everybody calls the Heat dirty. BFS

Moggs24 · Post #1249 » by **Moggs24** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:21 pm

This is what happened. Wade and Rondo got tangled up b/c Rondo was reaching in and wade decided to give Rondo an extra pull as they went down. Unfortunately Rondo landed awkwardly and that is what makes it a big deal.

GregB · Post #1250 » by **GregB** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:24 pm

lol at heat fans complaining about players diving into other for fouls. I swear James Jones been watching Reggie Millers greatest hits with how he kicks his leg out on his 3.

That was a dirty play by Wade. He grabbed Rondo and took him to the ground while pinning his other hand. When the ball was going out of Bounds and no reason to do that. Wade has been dirty all series. Dude would be smart to not walk around Boston today. I have a feeling Im not the only fan who wants Wade hurt.

Pimpwerx · Post #1251 » by **Pimpwerx** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:26 pm

Wade's play was not dirty. He and Rondo got locked-up, and they both fell. Honestly, that's how it looked to me last night. They showed numerous replays, and it looked like they just got tangled. Rondo wouldn't have gotten injured if he didn't try to brace his fall like that. Not blaming him either, just saying it was a freak accident. I think that's why the guys all asked him if he was alright. No one wants to endanger anyone's livelihood.

There were some calls that went against us, and I guess some will think some for us. That's the game of basketball. They're at home, so we should never expect anything in our favor. The team just gave up. How does a one-armed man score or assist in a professional game of basketball? I wouldn't let a one-armed kid score on my middle-school team. PEACE.

GregB · Post #1252 » by **GregB** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:27 pm

Rondo is prob one of the only players in the league who can play one handed. He has the biggest hands of any PG in the league.

Pimpwerx · Post #1253 » by **Pimpwerx** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:33 pm

GregB wrote:Rondo is prob one of the only players in the league who can play one handed. He has the biggest hands of any PG in the league.

He cannot though. No one can. At no point last night did Miami ever challenge his dribble. No one pressed him coming up the court. We let him call one-handed **** plays. We let him give signals with one **** hand. How does that pass in a pro game? I'm so goddamn mad because of that. No one planted to his right and forced him left. That's the first thing you do. Force him to cross you.

I said it on the Heat forum, and I'll say it here. I'd like to see this epic piece of ball-handling that lets a one-armed man bring the ball up the court without serious assistance. This is the game of basketball. A middle school team shouldn't allow a one-armed gimp get past halfcourt without help. We just conceded the second half and took it easy on Rondo.

On defense, all we had to do what pass the ball to whoever Rondo was guarding and tell them to drive to his left. That is all. Three things can happen:

1. They get to the rim.
2. They get a foul from contact because he can't hand-check and has to body.
3. They dish to the open man because someone has to rotate to help.

This never came to pass, because we took it easy on Rondo. The team quit. The entire team, save for Rio and Joel, quit last night. I don't see how it can be viewed any other way. We never challenged Rondo on offense or defense. A **** man. Wow! PEACE.

calamity · Post #1254 » by **calamity** » Sun May 8, 2011 2:54 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:Wade's play was not dirty. He and Rondo got locked-up, and they both fell. Honestly, that's how it looked to me last night. They showed numerous replays, and it looked like they just got tangled. Rondo wouldn't have gotten injured if he didn't try to brace his fall like that. Not blaming him either, just saying it was a freak accident. I think that's why the guys all asked him if he was alright. No one wants to endanger anyone's livelihood.

There were some calls that went against us, and I guess some will think some for us. That's the game of basketball. They're at home, so we should never expect anything in our favor. The team just gave up. How does a one-armed man score or assist in a professional game of basketball? I wouldn't let a one-armed kid score on my middle-school team. PEACE.

nah...look again. he intentionally took him down. he does it a lot. he did it to Pierce also by pulling on his jersey while going down. I hate to see Rondo injured like this but glad that it exposed Wade's dirtiness at times.

Bostonian · Post #1255 » by **Bostonian** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:01 pm

Can't wait for the game Monday. Brand new series if we can pull out another win.

calamity · Post #1256 » by **calamity** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:02 pm

LanFill wrote:
Tuff Gong wrote:

Karma is a what, LeBron? Oh yeah, that's right. This is the guy people are defending and calling Dwyane Wade dirty?

What does Rondo's play on Hinrich years ago have to do with Wade taking down Rondo? Nothing.

not a damn thing. folks just trying to justify something that really isn't justifiable.

Pimpwerx · Post #1257 » by **Pimpwerx** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:11 pm

calamity wrote:nah...look again. he intentionally took him down. he does it a lot. he did it to Pierce also by pulling on his jersey while going down. I hate to see Rondo injured like this but glad that it exposed Wade's dirtiness at times.

When you're knocked off-balance, what's your instinct? You reach for the nearest stable object to brace yourself. I definitely remember the PP foul earlier, and Wade was knocked even harder on that. Instead of falling straight to the floor, he was reaching out for anything to slow his fall, and that meant he grabbed the person who knocked him over. Both times, it seemed completely innocent. Both times Wade was knocked off balance. You can't tell me Rondo didn't tie him up, because he did. Wade lost his balance, and you expect him to just fall straight to the ground?

The same way Rondo had that gruesome fall, Wade is just trying to prevent himself hitting the ground hard. He just tried to brace himself and took Rondo down in the process. Rondo woulda been fine if he didn't plant his arm, but again, instinct tells you to try and brace for impact. Because he was supporting the weight of two men, his elbow popped.

Freak accident IMO. Contact was totally initiated by Rondo, but there's no blame there. **** happens. PEACE.

calamity · Post #1258 » by **calamity** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:13 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:
calamity wrote:nah...look again. he intentionally took him down. he does it a lot. he did it to Pierce also by pulling on his jersey while going down. I hate to see Rondo injured like this but glad that it exposed Wade's dirtiness at times.

When you're knocked off-balance, what's your instinct? You reach for the nearest stable object to brace yourself. I definitely remember the PP foul earlier, and Wade was knocked even harder on that. Instead of falling straight to the floor, he was reaching out for anything to slow his fall, and that meant he grabbed the person who knocked him over. Both times, it seemed completely innocent. Both times Wade was knocked off balance. You can't tell me Rondo didn't tie him up, because he did. Wade lost his balance, and you expect him to just fall straight to the ground?

The same way Rondo had that gruesome fall, Wade is just trying to prevent himself hitting the ground hard. He just tried to brace himself and took Rondo down in the process. Rondo woulda been fine if he didn't plant his arm, but again, instinct tells you to try and brace for impact. Because he was supporting the weight of two men, his elbow popped.

Freak accident IMO. Contact was totally initiated by Rondo, but there's no blame there. **** happens. PEACE.

it was intentional. point blank. I doubt he was trying to injure him that way or even imagined it would be the outcome. but there really wasn't a reason to pull him down at all. easily preventable. like I said he does it all the time but this time it showed how dangerous that **** can be. PEACE.

Post #1259 » by **BBallFreak** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:15 pm

Gruesome injury, but neither player's fault. Rondo clearly hooks Wade over his right shoulder which is what brought Wade down.

Pimpwerx · Post #1260 » by **Pimpwerx** » Sun May 8, 2011 3:21 pm

calamity wrote:it was intentional. point blank. I doubt he was trying to injure him that way or even imagined it would be the outcome. but there really wasn't a reason to pull him down at all. easily preventable. like I said he does it all the time but this time it showed how dangerous that **** can be. PEACE.

Wade's left leg goes out, and his right leg is trapped in front of Rondo's left. Where was Wade going? Down. With his right arm locked-up with Rondo's, what should he have done? Did you miss the part where Rondo's right elbow clamps down on Wade's right arm by his waist?

IOW, they got tangled. Look at the 59 second mark here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

Rondo and Wade got tangled-up. The calls of a dirty play right now are right up there with the complaints about the officiating. This is just an incidental part of the game. If Rondo doesn't play Wade that physical, they don't fall and no one gets hurt. But it's understandable why he played him that way, and so sometimes **** happens. How is that intentional? PEACE.