2021-22 NBA MVP Discussion (Pt. 1)

[GSP]

Curry's gonna get an AI/D-Rose type MVP the way this season is going.

Ja has a better case for that narrative. Memphis only 1.5 games behind Gs and that Draymond injury doesnt sound good at all.

[AleksandarN]

Embiid loss. Giannis loss. Does anyone want this mvp? If curry had anywhere near his normal numbers he would run away with it

Jokic coming through the backdoor and going b2b w/o Murray or Mpj would be insanity

The last time someone went through the backdoor in Denver it didn't turn out so well.

[SpreeS]

Giannis/Jokic/Embiid are front runners, but their teams records are bad for MVP type season

MIL 5th
PHI 6th
DEN 6th

Morant? But MEM is 11-2 w/o him….
Curry? Down year, but impact is still here.
Butler? Already had missed a lot of games.
PHO/CHI/UTA/CLE dont have MVP type player.

[Bobbcats]

Booker looks like he wants in this conversation the last week or so. If he plays great in the second half I can see the narrative moving to him

[BoatsNZones]

Curry's gonna get an AI/D-Rose type MVP the way this season is going.

Ja has a better case for that narrative. Memphis only 1.5 games behind Gs and that Draymond injury doesnt sound good at all.

He's top 5 in exactly 0 statistics and has missed many more games (where his team dominated and their own fans booed him on his return). No, he does not have that narrative. Curry is still top 5 in VORP/EPM/+- (5/2/1) and they have the #2 record (#1 SRS) in the NBA. D Rose/AI were not there. Let's hear your Ja argument though.

Booker looks like he wants in this conversation the last week or so. If he plays great in the second half I can see the narrative moving to him

He's 50/50 to be an All Star honestly. Nowhere near MVP caliber.

[Bobbcats]

Curry's gonna get an AI/D-Rose type MVP the way this season is going.

Ja has a better case for that narrative. Memphis only 1.5 games behind Gs and that Draymond injury doesnt sound good at all.

He's top 5 in exactly 0 statistics and has missed many more games (where his team dominated and their own fans booed him on his return). No, he certainly does not have that narrative. Curry is still top 5 in VORP/EPM/+- (5/2/1) and they have the #2 record (#1 SRS) in the NBA. D Rose/AI were not there. Let's hear your Ja argument though.

Booker looks like he wants in this conversation the last week or so. If he plays great in the second half I can see the narrative moving to him

He's 50/50 to be an All Star honestly. Nowhere near MVP caliber.

Certainly don't think he's been MVP caliber so far, but there's half a season and if he can continue like he's played of late he'll get the best player on best team attention. I do think CP3 is still their best player, but Booker's got much more of a chance for this because CP3's game is anti-stats this year, only does stuff himself when the team is cold and most games he saves his own number for a fourth quarter fight that's not needed.

[eyeatoma]

Wonderful article on why Joel Embiid could be this year's MVP.

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/another-career-year-from-joel-embiid-has-him-back-in-the-mvp-race

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[Alatan]

Worth noting again that 4 of the starters were +. Malone seems to have a vendetta against staggering minutes and Jokic spends essentially no time playing with the bench unit. And it’s a bench unit that could really, really use his help. I have no clue why he thinks this is the winning strat.

he spends plenty of time playing with bench unit players. they just happen to be starting for the nuggets. they are playing like 8 deep. who do you want him to play with? campazzo?

It’s just odd that the only starter he really staggers with the bench is Barton (it's pretty ridiculous to have 3 starters with a >10 +/- and be a .500 level team). Yes I’d have him playing more with Camp. But with Jokers minutes down with the injuries I do get it. He’s effectively throwing the season and prioritizing health.

Malone is a bad coach. People think he is good because the Nuggets are floating while playing a G league squad around Jokic but it has very little to do with Malone.

[MindState]

Ja has a better case for that narrative. Memphis only 1.5 games behind Gs and that Draymond injury doesnt sound good at all.

He's top 5 in exactly 0 statistics and has missed many more games (where his team dominated and their own fans booed him on his return). No, he certainly does not have that narrative. Curry is still top 5 in VORP/EPM/+- (5/2/1) and they have the #2 record (#1 SRS) in the NBA. D Rose/AI were not there. Let's hear your Ja argument though.

Booker looks like he wants in this conversation the last week or so. If he plays great in the second half I can see the narrative moving to him

He's 50/50 to be an All Star honestly. Nowhere near MVP caliber.

Certainly don't think he's been MVP caliber so far, but there's half a season and if he can continue like he's played of late he'll get the best player on best team attention. I do think CP3 is still their best player, but Booker's got much more of a chance for this because CP3's game is anti-stats this year, only does stuff himself when the team is cold and most games he saves his own number for a fourth quarter fight that's not needed.

CP3 is the Suns best player and their MVP, and the national media (any everyone else) knows that. Booker has no shot at an MVP.

Bookers time as an MVP candidate may come, but it wont be until he can carry the Suns to a top seed without CP3.

[Hello Brooklyn]

There is honestly no MVP this year.

Nobody in the East deserves it anymore.

-KD is injured
-Giannis, his team is not playing well enough
-Embiid, same

Curry should have easily won it. But his stats have just fallen off a cliff.

LeBron/Jokic are not on good enough teams at all. Thats not how MVP works.

At this point it might just have to be Devin Booker. Why is he getting no buzz?

[Kameleon]

Just give it to Garland and move on.

[Edrees]

Is it actually possible to give nobody the MVP?

[SeniorWalker]

There is honestly no MVP this year.

Nobody in the East deserves it anymore.

-KD is injured
-Giannis, his team is not playing well enough
-Embiid, same

Curry should have easily won it. But his stats have just fallen off a cliff.

LeBron/Jokic are not on good enough teams at all. Thats not how MVP works.

At this point it might just have to be Devin Booker. Why is he getting no buzz?

We have a whole ~3 months of regular season play left. Plenty of time for a deserving front runner to emerge.

I agree though, there's no standout right now.

[MindState]

There is honestly no MVP this year.

Nobody in the East deserves it anymore.

-KD is injured
-Giannis, his team is not playing well enough
-Embiid, same

Curry should have easily won it. But his stats have just fallen off a cliff.

LeBron/Jokic are not on good enough teams at all. Thats not how MVP works.

At this point it might just have to be Devin Booker. Why is he getting no buzz?

Cant go to Booker. Hes not even the best player on his own team. Plus, I dont think the Suns have a top 10 player. Hard to imagine someone that low in the NBA tier winning an MVP award, they are normally reserved for top 5 players.

[kuclas]

Giannis/Jokic/Embiid are front runners, but their teams records are bad for MVP type season

MIL 5th
PHI 6th
DEN 6th

Morant? But MEM is 11-2 w/o him….
Curry? Down year, but impact is still here.
Butler? Already had missed a lot of games.
PHO/CHI/UTA/CLE dont have MVP type player.

Difference between 6 and 1 seed in east is 2.5 games.

Bucks or sixers moving up is more likely to happen with a good week. Than what excuse would you have if bucks were 1 seed and sixers 2 seed in a few weeks? Not to give it to Giannis or embiid?

[DoctorX]

There is honestly no MVP this year.

Nobody in the East deserves it anymore.

-KD is injured
-Giannis, his team is not playing well enough
-Embiid, same

Curry should have easily won it. But his stats have just fallen off a cliff.

LeBron/Jokic are not on good enough teams at all. Thats not how MVP works.

At this point it might just have to be Devin Booker. Why is he getting no buzz?

Giannis or Embiid will win it if their team manages to finish top 3 in the East.

[TheBobster]

As for Booker, the argument that he's not even the Suns' best player is true. And while Paul is still somewhere in the NBA's top 10 players, he just doesn't have the eye-popping stats that illicit MVP votes.

[ty 4191]

When Jokic is on the floor, the Nuggets have a +9.3 point differential, which would rank 1st in the league.
When Jokic is off the floor, the Nuggets have a -11.7 point differential, which would rank last in the league.

The guy turns the worst team in the league into the best team in the league when he steps on the court.

[Crives]

It should be Booker if season ended today.
I think Giannis will be most deserving by season end

[SpreeS]

Giannis/Jokic/Embiid are front runners, but their teams records are bad for MVP type season

MIL 5th
PHI 6th
DEN 6th

Morant? But MEM is 11-2 w/o him….
Curry? Down year, but impact is still here.
Butler? Already had missed a lot of games.
PHO/CHI/UTA/CLE dont have MVP type player.

Difference between 6 and 1 seed in east is 2.5 games.

Bucks or sixers moving up is more likely to happen with a good week. Than what excuse would you have if bucks were 1 seed and sixers 2 seed in a few weeks? Not to give it to Giannis or embiid?

MIL has 1 win from last 5 games.