NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24

1993Playoffs · Post #1241 » by **1993Playoffs** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 am

Look like Jokic is starting to lose some steam. Still early though

GSWFan1994 · Post #1242 » by **GSWFan1994** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:06 pm

1993Playoffs wrote:Look like Jokic is starting to lose some steam. Still early though

Yes, he lost some steam by having a 38/19/8 game 2 days ago.

Post #1243 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:08 pm

Right now it's Embiid, Haliburton and Tatum at the top, with Jokic and SGA next.
Jokic performed better w/o Murray but much worse supporting cast than he's doing now, I know he's still huge + on/off, but still, the team is losing a lot.

Wolfgang630 · Post #1244 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:32 pm

KD is missing his second game. How many games can you miss before you can’t win the award?

Special_Puppy · Post #1245 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:40 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:KD is missing his second game. How many games can you miss before you can’t win the award?

Once you miss over 9 games then you start to get availability questions

eyeatoma · Post #1246 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:45 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:KD is missing his second game. How many games can you miss before you can’t win the award?

65 is the minimum

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bigboi · Post #1247 » by **bigboi** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:28 am

Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

Special_Puppy · Post #1248 » by **Special_Puppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:10 am

bigboi wrote:Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

I'm higher on Giannis for MVP vs most but what's the case for Giannis over Jokic?

Infinite Llamas · Post #1249 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:12 am

bigboi wrote:Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

About as clear as a windshield during a hale storm.

Giannis has zero case for MVP right now.

bigboi · Post #1250 » by **bigboi** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:31 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
bigboi wrote:Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

I'm higher on Giannis for MVP vs most but what's the case for Giannis over Jokic?

You can argue Jokic. No problem with either tbh

LordCovington33 · Post #1251 » by **LordCovington33** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:42 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
bigboi wrote:Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

About as clear as a windshield during a hale storm.

Giannis has zero case for MVP right now.

Jokic first. And then it’s a battle for second.

But we are just 15 games in. Anything can change.

Cubbies2120 · Post #1252 » by **Cubbies2120** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:43 am

Excluding the game he was ejected (14 mins played), Jokic since Murray went down:

32/15/10 on 61% True shooting (low for Jokic, because he's shooting horrifically from 3 during that stretch, just 26%)

Infinite Llamas · Post #1253 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

LordCovington33 wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
bigboi wrote:Gianni’s is clear mvp. I’m a Celtic fan but anyone saying Tatum rn shouldn’t talk basketball anymore. Tatum has been extremely inconsistent

About as clear as a windshield during a hale storm.

Giannis has zero case for MVP right now.

Jokic first. And then it’s a battle for second.

But we are just 15 games in. Anything can change.

This is true. I’m a huge Jokic supporter but even his case is a little murky right now with his team struggling.

I suppose it’s a little harsh of me to say that Giannis has zero case but there is no clear picture right now. My top 5 is Jokic/Embiid/Hali/Tatum/Shae but it can all change so fast.

Wolfgang630 · Post #1254 » by **Wolfgang630** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:49 am

I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

eyeatoma · Post #1255 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:09 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

In what world is Tatum in Tier 1 over Embiid?

Embiid and the Celtics have a similar record, Embiid is playing far more consistently, and has taken his game another notch with his passing.

Embiid also doesn't have 3 potential all stars flanking him.

CobraCommander · Post #1256 » by **CobraCommander** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:10 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

I think it’s Jokic right now

With Hali- Giannis- Embiid - KD - SGA and Tatum are right there -

Hali and SGA are playing insanely well….

Haliburtons stats - 50-40-90 with 25 points 12 assist 2.5 TO He ain’t taking a ton of shots either -

Fox, Curry, Luka and Lebron are going to be on people’s ballots because how can you not consider these guys - Lebron and Luka looking like they having the same year they always have and Curry is keeeping a ship with tons of holes a float - plus you gotta love Fox lighting the Beam!

CobraCommander · Post #1257 » by **CobraCommander** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:11 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

In what world is Tatum in Tier 1 over Embiid?

Embiid and the Celtics have a similar record, Embiid is playing far more consistently, and has taken his game another notch with his passing.

Embiid also doesn't have 3 potential all stars flanking him.

Embiids still has the game 7 stink on him

Wolfgang630 · Post #1258 » by **Wolfgang630** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:30 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

In what world is Tatum in Tier 1 over Embiid?

Embiid and the Celtics have a similar record, Embiid is playing far more consistently, and has taken his game another notch with his passing.

Embiid also doesn't have 3 potential all stars flanking him.

I have to reward Tatum since they have the number 1 seed. They’re the best team in basketball imo and he’s the clear best player on the Celtics.

Crives · Post #1259 » by **Crives** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:56 am

Dbook has rejoined the chat with 29.4 ppg and 9 assists per game

eyeatoma · Post #1260 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:59 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:I think Tatum and Joker are tier 1. Embiid is tier 2. SGA, Durant, Giannis and Hali are tier 3.

In what world is Tatum in Tier 1 over Embiid?

Embiid and the Celtics have a similar record, Embiid is playing far more consistently, and has taken his game another notch with his passing.

Embiid also doesn't have 3 potential all stars flanking him.

I have to reward Tatum since they have the number 1 seed. They’re the best team in basketball imo and he’s the clear best player on the Celtics.

He is the most inconsistent of the MVP candidates. The best team in basketball are 1-1 with the Sixers this year.

Who will be the 2023-24 NBA MVP?