Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[nikster]

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

so why is Trump unable to open his mouth without saying something as stupid like this. He opens himself up for criticism because hes a loose cannon that says stupid **** on the regular. In times of confusion and uncertainty like this hes just adding fuel to the fire

[HotRocks34]

Yeah Philly and Pittsburgh will probably be last. I’m in one of the purple parts of the South West. You got to worry a little about people from the still closed areas driving to an open area to get services, etc. Hopefully people won’t do that.

Yeah, likely those spots will be last.

I thought about the "drive to open area" thing, also. But where I'm at, I can't see anyone coming here. There's just not a lot here.

It does happen, though. I recall reading something about a remote part of Australia. Tourists took buses like 90 miles to buy supplies (toilet paper, etc) whenever the virus hit there.

We're actually just about normally stocked at local stores. Panic hit hard about 5 weeks ago, but it seems to be subsiding now. Also traffic is staring to pick up.

[13th Man]

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

so why is Trump unable to open his mouth without saying something as stupid like this. He opens himself up for criticism because hes a loose cannon that says stupid **** on the regular. In times of confusion and uncertainty like this hes just adding fuel to the fire

No one is perfect people F up and learn from it. I'm sure this wasn't his proudest moment, but whatever this should not define him and what he's done for the country over the past 3 years. Judge a person by their actions and intentions rather by their words.

[NBAFan93]

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

so why is Trump unable to open his mouth without saying something as stupid like this. He opens himself up for criticism because hes a loose cannon that says stupid **** on the regular. In times of confusion and uncertainty like this hes just adding fuel to the fire

No one is perfect people F up and learn from it. I'm sure this wasn't his proudest moment, but whatever this should not define him and what he's done for the country over the past 3 years. Judge a person by their actions and intentions rather by their words.

And it’s not like prior conservative presidents haven’t said some stupid stuff in the past. George W Bush used to say idiotic **** all the time - like websites were dedicated to the dumb stuff he would say. Reagan didn’t come across as the brightest bulb either.

Ever since TV became a thing, Democrats have been known as the more eloquent and polished speakers that come across as much more intellectual to the masses. Doesn’t mean as much as people think in the grand scheme of things.

[G R E Y]

There are pockets of places that are on fire with respect to the virus spreading:

Read on Twitter

[lakerz12]

So much for not getting political in this thread...

Daily deaths in the U.S. appears to be lower today. The lowest it has been since March 31st if this number remains close to the same. Currently it's saying 1,157 today. So hopefully that downward trend continues.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[nymets1]

Last night's numbers as of 10 pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 956,375 confirmed cases(+30,862 increase), Recoveries- 102,340(+2688 increase), Deaths- 53,928(+1694 increase)
New York- 282,143 confirmed cases(+10,553 increase)
New Jersey- 105,523 confirmed cases(+3327 increase)
Mass- 53,348 confirmed cases(+7325 increase)
Illinois- 41,177 confirmed cases(+2119 increase)
California- 41,138 confirmed cases(+1654 increase)
Penn- 40,049 confirmed cases(+1397 increase)
Michigan- 37,203 confirmed cases(+562 increase)
Florida- 30,839 confirmed cases(+306 increase)
Louisana- 26,512 confirmed cases(+372 increase)
Connecticut- 24,582 confirmed cases(+661 increase)
Texas- 23,773 confirmed cases(+137 increase)
Georgia- 23,216 confirmed cases(+725 increase)
Maryland- 17,766 confirmed cases(+1150 increase)
Ohio- 15,587 confirmed cases(+418 increase)
Indiana- 14,395 confirmed cases(+715 increase)
Washington- 13,519 confirmed cases(+566 increase)
Colorado- 12,968 confirmed cases(+713 increase)
Virginia- 12,366 confirmed cases(+772 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 960,651 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 118,162, Deaths- 54,256
New York- 287,452 confirmed cases(+10,007 increase)
New jersey- 105,523 confirmed cases(+3327 increase)
Mass- 53,348 confirmed cases(+2379 increase)
California- 42,225 confirmed cases(+1413 increase)
Illinois- 41,177 confirmed cases(+2119 increase)
Penn- 40,149 confirmed cases(+1400 increase)
Michigan- 37,203 confirmed cases(+562 increase)
Florida- 30,839 confirmed cases(+306 increase)
Louisana- 26,512 confirmed cases(+372 increase)
Connecticut- 24,582 confirmed cases(+661 increase)
Texas- 23,773 confirmed cases(+603 increase)
Georgia- 23,216 confirmed cases(+725 increase)
Maryland- 17,766 confirmed cases(+1150 increase)
Ohio- 15,587 confirmed cases(+418 increase)
Indiana- 14,395 confirmed cases(+715 increase)
Washington- 13,176 confirmed cases(+566 increase)
Colorado- 12,968 confirmed cases(+712 increase)
Virginia- 12,366 confirmed cases(+772 increase)

1. New York is approaching 300,000 confirmed cases maybe Sunday or Monday
2. Louisana is now over 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
3. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
4. Texas now 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
5. Georgia only increased by 725 new cases today as they opened up their hair cut/barber shops, beauty salons, etc
6. My state Florida only had 306 new cases today, That's the 1st time Florida has been that low. The last 6 of 8 days Florida has kept their new cases per day under 1000. Let's go Florida!
7. Michigan only increased by 562 new cases today
8. Maryland had over 1000 new cases today

Today's numbers as of 9pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 985,027 confirmed cases(+21,916 increase), Recoveries- 109,212(+7184 increase), Deaths- 55,383(+1641 increase)
New York- 288,045 confirmed cases(+5902 increase)
New Jersey- 109,038 confirmed cases(+3515 increase)
Mass- 53,348 confirmed cases
Illinois- 43,903 confirmed cases(+2126 increase)
California- 41,338 confirmed cases
Penn- 41,165 confirmed cases(+1116 increase)
Michigan- 37,778 confirmed cases(+575 increase)
Florida- 31,528 confirmed cases(+689 increase)
Louisana- 26,773 confirmed cases(+261 increase)
Connecticut- 25,269 confirmed cases(+687 increase)
Texas- 24,631 confirmed cases(+81 increase)
Georgia- 23,481 confirmed cases(+265 increase)
Maryland- 18,581 confirmed cases(+815 increase)
Washington- 13,398 confirmed cases(+79 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 987,160 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 118,781, Deaths- 55,413
New York- 293,991 confirmed cases
New Jersey- 109,038 confirmed cases
Mass- 54,938 confirmed cases
Illinois- 43,903 confirmed cases
California- 43,541 confirmed cases
Penn- 42,708 confirmed cases
Michigan- 37,778 confirmed cases
Florida- 31,528 confirmed cases
Louisana- 26,773 confirmed cases
Connecticut- 25,269 confirmed cases
Texas- 24,981 confirmed cases
Georgia- 23,481 confirmed cases
Maryland- 18,581 confirmed cases
Washington- 13,521 confirmed cases


1. New York is approaching 300,000 confirmed cases either Monday or Tuesday
2. Louisana is over 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
3. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
4. Texas is over 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
5. Georgia only increased by 265 new cases today as they opened up their hair cut/barber shops, beauty salons, etc
6. My state Florida only had 689 new cases today, The last 7 of 9 days Florida has kept their new cases per day under 1000.
7. Michigan only increased by 575 new cases today, Michigan has 2 straight days of new cases under 1000 per day
8. Bing is not showing an increase of new cases today for Mass and California
9. I tried to get the increase in new cases on worldometer from the new cases column but it's been blank everytime I check, Monday it should back to normal
10. Some states did really well with their low increase in new cases on Saturday and Sunday(Georgia, Florida, Michigan, etc). But it was the weekend where's there's speculation of less testing and less workers. So we need to see how Monday and Tuesday go for new cases increase per state. Any state that had good numbers on the weekend and than shoot up Monday and/or Tuesday than those numbers on the weekend didn't mean anything.

[Mind_Odyssey]

I'm starting to like her more, she is well-spoken and diplomatic at the same time.

Agreed. I like her, she's a real pro. You can tell she's been doing media interviews (as she says in this interview) for a long, long time. Nothing rattles her. I don't think I've ever seen her at a loss for words or 'shaken up' by anything anyone asks her. And she knows her stuff cold.

She's a very competent person.

I don’t think people realize how actually difficult it is to speak in front of a camera.

It’s not like doing a presentation in front of a crowd. At least speaking to a crowd you can gage the audience and get a feel for what works. If you goof up in front of a crowd of people, it’s whatever. They probably all zoned out halfway through your spiel.

There’s a lot of awkwardness speaking in front of a camera. It’s why I wish as a society we’d stop giving people crap if they mis-speak on TV.

[13th Man]

So much for not getting political in this thread...

Daily deaths in the U.S. appears to be lower today. The lowest it has been since March 31st if this number remains close to the same. Currently it's saying 1,157 today. So hopefully that downward trend continues.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

This is very encouraging especially with the warmer weather coming as well. Man, I can't wait to get back to work, the past 6 weeks has been difficult.

[Pointgod]

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

so why is Trump unable to open his mouth without saying something as stupid like this. He opens himself up for criticism because hes a loose cannon that says stupid **** on the regular. In times of confusion and uncertainty like this hes just adding fuel to the fire

No one is perfect people F up and learn from it. I'm sure this wasn't his proudest moment, but whatever this should not define him and what he's done for the country over the past 3 years. Judge a person by their actions and intentions rather by their words.

Trump wants all the accolades with being President but he doesn’t want to responsibility for anything. He was somehow blaming Obama for his poor coronavirus response which is just freaking weird. People are looking to the Governors for leadership because the President doesn’t want to lead in a time of crisis. And you and other posters are advocating that the President shouldn’t be held accountable for anything, even the words that come out of his mouth.

[Nuntius]

Trump cultists really out in full force here

Democrats are the laughing stock to the whole world. So much so that it still makes sense to vote republican despite how idiotic trump is at times. The man knows how to manage a great economy that gets everyone working whether people like it or not (again despite him being borderline stupid at times)

Actually, I live outside the US and for the most part, most people outside the US do not know anything about the Republicans and the Democrats (no one really cares to know the difference either). However, most people do think that Trump is a laughing stock. Now, as a Trump supporter, this should not be any factor whatsoever, but at least you should get the facts straight.

As someone who also lives outside the US, I second what mtron929 just said.

[HotRocks34]

Daily deaths in the U.S. appears to be lower today. The lowest it has been since March 31st if this number remains close to the same. Currently it's saying 1,157 today. So hopefully that downward trend continues.

Yes, looks like a good day.

It's probably artificially "low" because of the weekend (not as much reporting on the weekend), but still good to see. Interested to look at what the number is on Tuesday, that will probably give a sense of where things are really at.

Many of the fatalities now seem to be backdated ones (probable and presumed) as states try to reexamine their records. I think a lot of this work is being done by coroners and Department Of Health people. My guess is that the weekend counts are more reflective of what takes place at hospitals (in real-time who is passing away from the virus at hospitals then), whereas during the week we may be getting more input from the coroners and Department of Health persons. Here's an example:

https://www.katc.com/news/coronavirus/ldh-now-reporting-probable-covid-19-deaths-under-new-cdc-guidance

The Louisiana Department of Health is now reporting reporting both confirmed COVID-19 deaths and probable COVID-19 deaths on its dashboard after recent guidance from the CDC.

...

LDH says that probable COVID-19 deaths are deaths identified by coroners and/or physicians as COVID-19 deaths or as probable/suspected/possible COVID-19 deaths without a lab positive result.

This switch to including more "probable" and "presumed" fatalities took place around April 14. It's definitely good information to have and all Covid deaths should be reported, but if states are dumping this into their daily fatality rates then is makes it harder to see what is going on in real time and it makes it hard to see the trends that are happening right now.

Here's another apparent example of this "weekend reporting" phenomenon:

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/pennsylvania#historical

Friday reported fatalities ----------------> 71
Saturday (from Fri info) -----------------> 45
Sunday (weekend info) ------------------> 13

Did only 13 people die from the virus in PA on Saturday (reported Sunday)? Doubtful, at least if you include the backdated deaths that are being reported now (apparently) in the state. But it looks like that reporting just isn't done on the weekends, and I expect a surge in the number on Tuesday (with people back in their offices and reporting things on Monday).

[HotRocks34]

With the need for ventilators in the USA on the wane, America is reportedly sending some machines out to various places in the world:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494646-trump-commits-to-sending-ventilators-to-several-countries

Trump said in recent days that his administration would send ventilators to Ecuador, El Salvador, Honduras and Indonesia. On Saturday, he announced the U.S. would also send devices to Ethiopia.

Glad to see this. There have been concerns about the usage of ventilators in treating the virus. A snapshot of those concerns can be seen here:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/doctors-urge-caution-when-using-ventilators-for-coronavirus-patients/

Still, as nations around the world battle the virus, better to have all tools on hand rather than face a shortage of a tool that might help to save lives.

[God Squad]

Democrats are the laughing stock to the whole world. So much so that it still makes sense to vote republican despite how idiotic trump is at times. The man knows how to manage a great economy that gets everyone working whether people like it or not (again despite him being borderline stupid at times)

Actually, I live outside the US and for the most part, most people outside the US do not know anything about the Republicans and the Democrats (no one really cares to know the difference either). However, most people do think that Trump is a laughing stock. Now, as a Trump supporter, this should not be any factor whatsoever, but at least you should get the facts straight.

As someone who also lives outside the US, I second what mtron929 just said.

I 3rd that. It's actually funny and quite amusing.

[lakerz12]

Actually, I live outside the US and for the most part, most people outside the US do not know anything about the Republicans and the Democrats (no one really cares to know the difference either). However, most people do think that Trump is a laughing stock. Now, as a Trump supporter, this should not be any factor whatsoever, but at least you should get the facts straight.

As someone who also lives outside the US, I second what mtron929 just said.

I 3rd that. It's actually funny and quite amusing.

As someone who lives inside the U.S., I can tell you that almost no one cares what your opinion is of our President.

And we definitely spend little to no time ever thinking about or talking about your political leaders.

[God Squad]

As someone who also lives outside the US, I second what mtron929 just said.

I 3rd that. It's actually funny and quite amusing.

As someone who lives inside the U.S., I can tell you that almost no one cares what your opinion is of our President.

And we definitely spend little to no time ever thinking about or talking about your political leaders.

Butthurt

[RoLo]

As someone who also lives outside the US, I second what mtron929 just said.

I 3rd that. It's actually funny and quite amusing.

As someone who lives inside the U.S., I can tell you that almost no one cares what your opinion is of our President.

And we definitely spend little to no time ever thinking about or talking about your political leaders.

no one asked u boy

[HotRocks34]

The USA continues to look "less sick" based upon testing data (percentage of tests coming back positive).

All data from this site:
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily

Through Sunday, April 26, the percentage of all reported USA tests (total tests = 5.4 million) coming back positive was 17.6%. The figure was 19.4% positive a week ago (with 3.8 million tests having been done then).

For the tests coming in on April 26, themselves (256,444 tests), the percentage was 10.7% positive. The figure for last Sunday was 16.1% positive.

The trend looks promising. To give some context to these figures, the percent positive on tests in NYC (a very sick area) on Sunday was 29%. But it was 42% on April 18 (data here from De Blasio press conferences).

So just as NYC (a major driver for all USA data) seems to be getting less sick, so does the rest of the USA.

[HotRocks34]

List of states that are projected to have not yet peaked in terms of fatalities per day and when they will supposedly peak. Based upon top model IHME:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

All other states are projected to have already passed their peak in fatalities per day.


Rhode Island -----------> April 27
Kentucky ---------------> April 28
Georgia ----------------> April 29
Kansas -----------------> April 29
Arkansas --------------> April 30
Utah -------------------> May 1
Iowa -------------------> May 5
Wyoming --------------> May 5
Nebraska --------------> May 12
North Dakota ---------> May 15
South Dakota ---------> May 16

[NBAFan93]

There are pockets of places that are on fire with respect to the virus spreading:

Read on Twitter

I believe they’ve been doing a lot of testing in prisons lately. I read one article that I believe said that a big portion of the prison positives are no or low symptoms too. It would make sense that the virus would spread easily in prisons where the prisoners eat together, etc. and aren’t in their cells the majority of the day.