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Sharkboy242 wrote:JazzUte88 wrote:Denver basketball fans are a bunch of rubbish. I think it will be great if they can win, but many of the people in Nuggets Nation aren’t even fans of the team at all, it has been outsiders following the team.
There’s a lot of loyal Nuggeteers like cjx and I
MrPainfulTruth wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:Nonsense. Jokic had a monster game by normal human measures (not for him, it was mediocre) where he clearly outplayed SGA.
Game 2 was an outlier, dominated by agenda driven officiating where Jokic got zero calls. If you hold the ball, get hacked and lose the ball, its a turnover. If you dont watch the actual game and just compare numbers you dont understand what went down.
Game 3 was terrible shooting wise. He still drew triple teams and opened spaces for his team mates. SGA had a terrible game all around too and he didnt contribute as much as Jokic did outside of shooting.
SGA has by far the better support around him. Murray and MPJ show up in one game out of five on average. Yesterday was one of those games. I posted in every game thread before the game: OKC has no chance to beat the Nuggets when these two show up plus Jokic. The reason they looked so bad most of the time is that both are very, very inconsistent.
MPJ shoots terribly most of the time and then loses confidence and completely stops shooting at which point he is useless, since his defense and rebounding are subpar.
Murray is even worse. He dominates the ball and makes extremely low IQ decisions. In a game like yesterday, his hail mary last second attempts after dribbling for 22.9 seconds on the same spot happen to fall. If you watched the Nuggets regularly you'd know this game is not what he brings most of the time. Sadly.
Overall they have a six man rotation. One of which is 49 year old Russell Westbrook.
The "others" won one game. The other was a combination of Jokic's monster numbers and Gordons clutch shot making. Where were MPJ, Murray in that game 1? Do you even remember if they played at all?
how so? I would take Murray/Gordon/Braun over Chet/JDub/Dort (not long term but in a playoff series in 2025). It's not close how better the Denver starters are offensively. Defense and depth is another story but Shai is almost our entire offense and that's why we lost yesterday because he was terrible.
Jokic is the best player in the world there's no discussion about that but this supporting cast talk is weird to me when u have amazing players like Murray and Gordon around you.
Murray and Gordon are playing elite basketball since the Clippers series. JDub had ONE good game against Denver and Chet at this point of his career is mainly an elite defensive player. I'm pissed at Shai but this supporting cast talk from casual fans that are watching at best 5-6 OKC games all season is so weird.
If you would take Murray over any OKC player then you simply havent seen him play a lot. Braun plays with a lot of heart but he hasnt done much in the post season. He is also very young and will become much better. Not sure what you see in him today.
I dont know who the best guys are around SGA: it just seems like theres a never ending supply of playoffs ready guys who play extremely good defense and hit open threes. How deep is the rotation? How bad is the dropoff when SGA goes to the bench? How many minutes does he have to play to keep the OKC afloat, compared to Jokic?
The Nuggets fans have discussed who is actual, reliable help for Jokic. The answer is simple - its Gordon who shows up every game, and omst of the time Westbrook. Everyone else is just randomly playing good at times, but mostly terrible. The two max palyers MPJ and Murray have been underwhelming for a very long time. Dont get fooled by a one game sample size.
SpurNani wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
how so? I would take Murray/Gordon/Braun over Chet/JDub/Dort (not long term but in a playoff series in 2025). It's not close how better the Denver starters are offensively. Defense and depth is another story but Shai is almost our entire offense and that's why we lost yesterday because he was terrible.
Jokic is the best player in the world there's no discussion about that but this supporting cast talk is weird to me when u have amazing players like Murray and Gordon around you.
Murray and Gordon are playing elite basketball since the Clippers series. JDub had ONE good game against Denver and Chet at this point of his career is mainly an elite defensive player. I'm pissed at Shai but this supporting cast talk from casual fans that are watching at best 5-6 OKC games all season is so weird.
If you would take Murray over any OKC player then you simply havent seen him play a lot. Braun plays with a lot of heart but he hasnt done much in the post season. He is also very young and will become much better. Not sure what you see in him today.
I dont know who the best guys are around SGA: it just seems like theres a never ending supply of playoffs ready guys who play extremely good defense and hit open threes. How deep is the rotation? How bad is the dropoff when SGA goes to the bench? How many minutes does he have to play to keep the OKC afloat, compared to Jokic?
The Nuggets fans have discussed who is actual, reliable help for Jokic. The answer is simple - its Gordon who shows up every game, and omst of the time Westbrook. Everyone else is just randomly playing good at times, but mostly terrible. The two max palyers MPJ and Murray have been underwhelming for a very long time. Dont get fooled by a one game sample size.
Jamal Murray is 3rd in the entire NBA in playoff scoring
Russell Westbrook is the highest scoring player off the bench for the playoffs
Aaron Gordon is one of the best role players in the league and has turned into the clutchest player in the league, hitting two game winning shots and a game tying 3 last night when Jokic was going brick for brick with SGA.
Stop your glazing for a second and appreciate your team. I doubt you're even a real Nugget fan just a Jokic glazer who tears everyone down to unnecessarily prop up Jokic.
like, at least pretend to actually root for someone.
SpurNani wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
how so? I would take Murray/Gordon/Braun over Chet/JDub/Dort (not long term but in a playoff series in 2025). It's not close how better the Denver starters are offensively. Defense and depth is another story but Shai is almost our entire offense and that's why we lost yesterday because he was terrible.
Jokic is the best player in the world there's no discussion about that but this supporting cast talk is weird to me when u have amazing players like Murray and Gordon around you.
Murray and Gordon are playing elite basketball since the Clippers series. JDub had ONE good game against Denver and Chet at this point of his career is mainly an elite defensive player. I'm pissed at Shai but this supporting cast talk from casual fans that are watching at best 5-6 OKC games all season is so weird.
If you would take Murray over any OKC player then you simply havent seen him play a lot. Braun plays with a lot of heart but he hasnt done much in the post season. He is also very young and will become much better. Not sure what you see in him today.
I dont know who the best guys are around SGA: it just seems like theres a never ending supply of playoffs ready guys who play extremely good defense and hit open threes. How deep is the rotation? How bad is the dropoff when SGA goes to the bench? How many minutes does he have to play to keep the OKC afloat, compared to Jokic?
The Nuggets fans have discussed who is actual, reliable help for Jokic. The answer is simple - its Gordon who shows up every game, and omst of the time Westbrook. Everyone else is just randomly playing good at times, but mostly terrible. The two max palyers MPJ and Murray have been underwhelming for a very long time. Dont get fooled by a one game sample size.
Jamal Murray is 3rd in the entire NBA in playoff scoring
Russell Westbrook is the highest scoring player off the bench for the playoffs
Aaron Gordon is one of the best role players in the league and has turned into the clutchest player in the league, hitting two game winning shots and a game tying 3 last night when Jokic was going brick for brick with SGA.
Stop your glazing for a second and appreciate your team. I doubt you're even a real Nugget fan just a Jokic glazer who tears everyone down to unnecessarily prop up Jokic.
Los_29 wrote:SpurNani wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:If you would take Murray over any OKC player then you simply havent seen him play a lot. Braun plays with a lot of heart but he hasnt done much in the post season. He is also very young and will become much better. Not sure what you see in him today.
I dont know who the best guys are around SGA: it just seems like theres a never ending supply of playoffs ready guys who play extremely good defense and hit open threes. How deep is the rotation? How bad is the dropoff when SGA goes to the bench? How many minutes does he have to play to keep the OKC afloat, compared to Jokic?
The Nuggets fans have discussed who is actual, reliable help for Jokic. The answer is simple - its Gordon who shows up every game, and omst of the time Westbrook. Everyone else is just randomly playing good at times, but mostly terrible. The two max palyers MPJ and Murray have been underwhelming for a very long time. Dont get fooled by a one game sample size.
Jamal Murray is 3rd in the entire NBA in playoff scoring
Russell Westbrook is the highest scoring player off the bench for the playoffs
Aaron Gordon is one of the best role players in the league and has turned into the clutchest player in the league, hitting two game winning shots and a game tying 3 last night when Jokic was going brick for brick with SGA.
Stop your glazing for a second and appreciate your team. I doubt you're even a real Nugget fan just a Jokic glazer who tears everyone down to unnecessarily prop up Jokic.
lol, you were looking at totals and not averages. Murray is 3rd in points because Denver has played the most games in the playoffs.
If you look at averages it’s a different story.
bucknut wrote:Very impressive to defend shae down the stretch with physicality and scheme ......but I continue to think Watson is underutilized and underrated
Watson is the best defensive player in the league .....and the only guy that can guard shae one on one
SpurNani wrote:Los_29 wrote:SpurNani wrote:
Jamal Murray is 3rd in the entire NBA in playoff scoring
Russell Westbrook is the highest scoring player off the bench for the playoffs
Aaron Gordon is one of the best role players in the league and has turned into the clutchest player in the league, hitting two game winning shots and a game tying 3 last night when Jokic was going brick for brick with SGA.
Stop your glazing for a second and appreciate your team. I doubt you're even a real Nugget fan just a Jokic glazer who tears everyone down to unnecessarily prop up Jokic.
lol, you were looking at totals and not averages. Murray is 3rd in points because Denver has played the most games in the playoffs.
If you look at averages it’s a different story.
Doesnt matter, Murray is right there with Jalen Brown and Williams among the highest scoring #2 options in these playoffs.
Westbrook averages the most points out of all bench players in these playoffs.
Aaron Gordon has performed like an all star in these playoffs.
MPJ is out there with one arm and still outscored Jokic last game.
The woe is Joker no help agenda needs to stop. He has stunk it up several times these playoffs and has received help from his supporting cast.
SpurNani wrote:The woe is Joker no help agenda needs to stop. He has stunk it up several times these playoffs and has received help from his supporting cast.
And what did Aaron Gordon do in Orlando? Career 53% TS% in Orlando. 61% in Denver.
Los_29 wrote:SpurNani wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:If you would take Murray over any OKC player then you simply havent seen him play a lot. Braun plays with a lot of heart but he hasnt done much in the post season. He is also very young and will become much better. Not sure what you see in him today.
I dont know who the best guys are around SGA: it just seems like theres a never ending supply of playoffs ready guys who play extremely good defense and hit open threes. How deep is the rotation? How bad is the dropoff when SGA goes to the bench? How many minutes does he have to play to keep the OKC afloat, compared to Jokic?
The Nuggets fans have discussed who is actual, reliable help for Jokic. The answer is simple - its Gordon who shows up every game, and omst of the time Westbrook. Everyone else is just randomly playing good at times, but mostly terrible. The two max palyers MPJ and Murray have been underwhelming for a very long time. Dont get fooled by a one game sample size.
Jamal Murray is 3rd in the entire NBA in playoff scoring
Russell Westbrook is the highest scoring player off the bench for the playoffs
Aaron Gordon is one of the best role players in the league and has turned into the clutchest player in the league, hitting two game winning shots and a game tying 3 last night when Jokic was going brick for brick with SGA.
Stop your glazing for a second and appreciate your team. I doubt you're even a real Nugget fan just a Jokic glazer who tears everyone down to unnecessarily prop up Jokic.
lol, you were looking at totals and not averages. Murray is 3rd in points because Denver has played the most games in the playoffs.
If you look at averages it’s a different story.
SpurNani wrote:The woe is Joker no help agenda needs to stop. He has stunk it up several times these playoffs and has received help from his supporting cast.
