NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 (Fresh poll ➥ Vote)

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Who is the MVP so far?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:39 am

Damian Lillard
13
5%
Luka Doncic
8
3%
Nikola Jokic
76
32%
Joel Embiid
14
6%
Kawhi Leonard
1
0%
Steph Curry
3
1%
Giannis Antetokounmpo
51
21%
James Harden
20
8%
LeBron James
51
21%
Other - Who?
1
0%
 
Total votes: 238

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Post#1301 » by Run DLC » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:02 am

Nets are 9-5 without their GOAT.


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Post#1302 » by NZB2323 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:09 am

JN61 wrote:Mitchell needs some love. While i don't think he is leading i still think he should be in top 5 on everyones list and to me he is currently top 3. Sometimes less is more and let your teammates to shine with you. That's what Mitchell is doing as a leader of the team. Similar to CP3


Mitchell over Gobert is absurd. Gobert is the anchor of the Jazz defense and the offense is based off of Gobert setting screens and the threat of him rolling to the rim. Losing Gobert would hurt the Jazz a lot worse than losing Mitchell.

Gobert’s on/off numbers per 100 possessions with the Jazz is +13.9. Mitchell is -1.1. So the Jazz actually out score their opponents by more points when Mitchell doesn’t play.

Gobert is the MVP of the Jazz.
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Post#1303 » by BoatsNZones » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:06 am

NZB2323 wrote:
JN61 wrote:Mitchell needs some love. While i don't think he is leading i still think he should be in top 5 on everyones list and to me he is currently top 3. Sometimes less is more and let your teammates to shine with you. That's what Mitchell is doing as a leader of the team. Similar to CP3


Mitchell over Gobert is absurd. Gobert is the anchor of the Jazz defense and the offense is based off of Gobert setting screens and the threat of him rolling to the rim. Losing Gobert would hurt the Jazz a lot worse than losing Mitchell.

Gobert’s on/off numbers per 100 possessions with the Jazz is +13.9. Mitchell is -1.1. So the Jazz actually out score their opponents by more points when Mitchell doesn’t play.

Gobert is the MVP of the Jazz.

He is, and I think even most Jazz fans would agree that they are simply a well oiled machine with no true "MVP" level player. A "best player, best team" narrative certainly does not apply to them in an MVP context. I would have Gobert top 10 (possibly top... 7-8?), Mitchell maybe top 15 (I would have Conley around the same if he did not miss those games), but none of them are going to get MVP consideration, and if any of them will be thought of on the final top-5 ballot it should and will be Rudy.
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Post#1304 » by kuclas » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:41 am

Embiid with his 3rd straight subpar game. Shooting 30%, 23% and tonight 5-20 (20%). That’s pretty bad. Especially Dallas is not a good defensive team. The double teams coming quicker even from 20 feet out affecting his shot. He’s driven a few times just to get to the free throw line. But that’s the blueprint how to slow him down.

Of course sixers won 2 out of those 3 games. So it’s a huge gamble to commit to try to take the ball away from Embiid. And force him to take more outside shots and even the shorter range ones where he’s driving and hoping for the the foul. And he’s not making them and doesn’t gettin the call.

He hasn’t looked good.
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Post#1305 » by vancity604 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:48 am

If Utah maintains this winning percentage for rest of season Gobert is the mvp
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Post#1306 » by Blaze94 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:34 am

Wtf is up with denver always missing Harris,PJ,Green etc..they're missing key guys..trade them if they're going to keep missing games..they're losing winnable games cause dudes dont play
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Post#1307 » by scrabbarista » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:36 am

Don't look now, but Giannis might end up with everything an MVP needs on his resume other than... uh... a lack of voter fatigue... or whatever other excuses people want to give for why he "can't win."

He's coming on strong for the last three or four weeks, and it's adding up.
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Post#1308 » by Dnt hate » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:00 am

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Post#1309 » by Dnt hate » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:01 am

kuclas wrote:Embiid with his 3rd straight subpar game. Shooting 30%, 23% and tonight 5-20 (20%). That’s pretty bad. Especially Dallas is not a good defensive team. The double teams coming quicker even from 20 feet out affecting his shot. He’s driven a few times just to get to the free throw line. But that’s the blueprint how to slow him down.

Of course sixers won 2 out of those 3 games. So it’s a huge gamble to commit to try to take the ball away from Embiid. And force him to take more outside shots and even the shorter range ones where he’s driving and hoping for the the foul. And he’s not making them and doesn’t gettin the call.

He hasn’t looked good.

What is the Sixers record with and without him, and his numbers are 100 percent mvp numbers still
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Post#1310 » by GSP » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:17 am

kuclas wrote:Embiid with his 3rd straight subpar game. Shooting 30%, 23% and tonight 5-20 (20%). That’s pretty bad. Especially Dallas is not a good defensive team. The double teams coming quicker even from 20 feet out affecting his shot. He’s driven a few times just to get to the free throw line. But that’s the blueprint how to slow him down.

Of course sixers won 2 out of those 3 games. So it’s a huge gamble to commit to try to take the ball away from Embiid. And force him to take more outside shots and even the shorter range ones where he’s driving and hoping for the the foul. And he’s not making them and doesn’t gettin the call.

He hasn’t looked good.


He was shooting a gazillion percentage from midrange specially 16+ ft and shooting 3s like a Splash bro. Regression is gonna hit him hard
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Post#1311 » by clyde21 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:18 am

maybe we don't give out the MVP this year
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Post#1312 » by SeanieWard » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:22 am

Blaze94 wrote:
SeanieWard wrote:My MVP rankings 2/25/21

1. Embiid
2. Giannis
3. Jokic
4. LeBron
5. Harden
6. Dame
7. Kawhi
8. Steph
9. Luka
10. Gobert



lmao kawhi 7th? wtf


I might put him above Dame..that about it lol I just don't think he's playing better than those guys. LeBron is falling fast tho. Kawhi could jump up a few spots
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Post#1313 » by AussieBuck » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:19 am

clyde21 wrote:maybe we don't give out the MVP this year

Good call, it's not like anyone is playing well. :crazy:
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Post#1314 » by Dupp » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:55 am

Run DLC wrote:Nets are 9-5 without their GOAT.


Stephen A: “KD is the MVP. I don’t care what y’all say”



They’ve won 8 straight, has he played in any of those? I dont think.

After initial growing pains the team looks insane and they still have kd to add.
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Post#1315 » by Dupp » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:00 am

Blaze94 wrote:
SeanieWard wrote:My MVP rankings 2/25/21

1. Embiid
2. Giannis
3. Jokic
4. LeBron
5. Harden
6. Dame
7. Kawhi
8. Steph
9. Luka
10. Gobert



lmao kawhi 7th? wtf


That’s not even crazy. Stephs above him so that could be 8th.

Not saying that’s my ranking but all those guys have a case over kawhi.
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Post#1316 » by Impuniti » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:28 am

vancity604 wrote:If Utah maintains this winning percentage for rest of season Gobert is the mvp

He needs to score more if he wants the MVP
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Post#1317 » by limbo » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:42 am

If we are gonna be honest with ourselves, then Jokic is doing the most heavy lifting out of anyone in the league, which would by definition translate into him being the most valuable player in the regular season.

Embiid has been awesome but Simmons has played like a borderline superstar this year and Harris is putting up 20 ppg on great efficiency. Ultimately Embiid has a better cast, imo, especially defensively with Simmons, Thybulle, Green and Dwight off the bench... I'm surprised the Sixers aren't top 3 at least in defense.

Kawhi has been very good as well, but also has a better team than Jokic. PG is playing significantly better than Murray on both ends, it's not even close, and then you have Ibaka, Batum and Zubac all very good in thei role.

Harden is another strong candidate, but again, Kyrie is a significantly better version of Murray, and Joe Harris is probably better than MPJ too... And that's before even mentioning Durant, who is out now, but has had a profound impact on Brooklyns record this year regardless...

Giannis is Top 5, but again, has a much better team than Jokic...

There really is no one with a worse team in the league doing more than Jokic... The Nuggets SRS is actually better than the Sixers too, lol...
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Post#1318 » by Castle Black » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:10 am

I’m just gonna leave this here.


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I get voter fatigue. But with no clear-cut favorite, if Giannis keeps this up and Milwaukee finishes top-3 in the East, he might steal a 3rd.
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Post#1319 » by Impuniti » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:29 am

Castle Black wrote:I’m just gonna leave this here.


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I get voter fatigue. But if Giannis keeps this up and Milwaukee finishes top-3 in the East, he’s prob gonna steal a 3rd.

The east is dumpster fire garbage. You shouldn't even be up for contention unless you're first or carrying an incredible load. No chance for Giannis unless the Bucks climb to the top.
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Post#1320 » by AussieBuck » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:29 am

He's at 29/12/6 for the season at 56% so the month split is a bit weird to mention.
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