2024 NBA Playoffs: Western Conference Finals: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-0)

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Who wins and goes to the NBA Finals?

Poll ended at Tue May 28, 2024 4:30 pm

Mavs in 4
36
38%
Mavs in 5
24
26%
Mavs in 6
21
22%
Mavs in 7
2
2%
Wolves in 6
4
4%
Wolves in 7
7
7%
 
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: Western Conference Finals: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-0) 

Post#1301 » by dygaction » Mon May 27, 2024 4:01 am

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Oscar9992 wrote:I hope Lively will come back. He is the 3'd best player in Mavs & may be the most impactful in the squad overall.


The NBA Finals is June 6th i believe. He can miss Game 4 and we're guaranteed already to have the Celtics-Mavericks NBA Finals.


You don't believe Wolves can come back even in absense of Lively?


The stats is about >150-0 when down 3. I don't think the TWolves players believe they can come back, even with the absence of Kyrie. As Luka is becoming more healthy, no team beats him 4 in a row.
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Post#1302 » by Dan33185 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:04 am

Congrats to Mavs fans here, this has been the best Wolves team I've seen in 20 years, but they are being outmatched and outplayed in this series. I have no delusions of winning 4 in a row, heck, I'd be happy to win 1 game this series. I'll be rooting for the Mavs against Boston.
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Post#1303 » by FarBeyondDriven » Mon May 27, 2024 4:08 am

If I was a betting man I'd put money on Wolves winning Game 4. One loss for Mavs doesn't go against the script and in fact, helps DAL as they'll be able to host another playoff game which is good for millions of dollars. Too tempting to pass up. Plus they have the loss of Lively for political cover.
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Post#1304 » by Emhoward » Mon May 27, 2024 4:08 am

It seems like most Non-Boston fans are leaning Mavs>Celts in the next series, as am I. But something tells me that Boston is a bad matchup for them and I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this --

How has the post-trade deadline Mavs fared against teams that play a lot of 5 out like Boston? Did OKC play any 5 out with Chet? I remember him out at the 3 point line some, but remember him being in the dunker spot a lot as well. My thinking is that Horford/Portzingis pulls Gafford/Lively out to the 3 point line, making their rim protection null and void. Then Boston has freer lanes to drive and either Dallas collapses, closes off driving lanes and leaves open three point shooters (Part of the reason Boston spams so many 3's) or Dallas stays home on shooters and Tatum, Brown, White and Jrue has open lanes with no rim protection... Am I thinking about this right?

One obvious counter is to go PJ Washington as the 5, but I'm not sure that's the move -- it provides them more spacing on offense -- which is great, but it removes the lob threat that's been so great for them. Plus it doesn't solve the issue, Dallas on defense with Boston on offense.

It seems to me the way Dallas wins this is to go PJ at 5 and just play the outscore them game. I don't see Dallas' defense being nearly as effective as they have been against the Wolves and Thunder. I actually think Dallas is built to play this way as well. Doncic, Irving, DJJ, Washington and either Green, Hardy, or THJ depending on who's the hot man, is a heck of an offense squad -- the question becomes if it does play out this way, how long will it take Kidd to make this adjustment, and second, will PJ hold up at Center on the boards against Horford and Portzingis.
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Post#1305 » by Baz » Mon May 27, 2024 4:10 am

Gonna be a lot tougher to close this out without Lively & even tougher to win the Finals without him. Crucial the Mavs get him back ASAP.
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Post#1306 » by dygaction » Mon May 27, 2024 4:11 am

Gobert needs to request a trade to the east. Besides national team, he cannot afford to face Luka often in this type of 7 game series. Jazz blow up because of lost to Mavs two years ago, and now not sure what happens to TWolves. Luka is in-game training Hardy how to dance him. He cannot afford the manual to be distributed league wise. They need a mature PG to operate with Edwards but 37 year old Conley should not be the starter.
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Post#1307 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:13 am

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I actually think Kyrie was the one who took this personally.

This is just normal Luka. That dude has gamer rage lol.


I’m all for it , let’s Kyrie show Nets management how dumb they are , he already did actually

And let him earn the bag he deserves

Show nets management. He never came to work to show them anything


Well he did for the Mavs

1 not allowing him to play away games either though ban for unvaccinated players was only in N.Y. , then changing the decision when things got rough

2 ridiculous and humiliating 6 points to do list for Kyrie from Tsai

3 inability to negotiate reasonable contract which he easily did with Mavs after the trade went down

He isn’t blameless, but it’s Nets front office and ownership who stirred this **** up big time

I’ll never root for snake Durant and fat Harden , Kyrie left because he wanted to get paid and he was unable to reach agreement with our FO

I’ll root for Kyrie easily anytime
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Post#1310 » by Chuck Everett » Mon May 27, 2024 4:14 am

Emhoward wrote:It seems like most Non-Boston fans are leaning Mavs>Celts in the next series, as am I. But something tells me that Boston is a bad matchup for them and I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this --

How has the post-trade deadline Mavs fared against teams that play a lot of 5 out like Boston? Did OKC play any 5 out with Chet? My thinking is that Horford/Portzingis pulls Gafford/Lively out to the 3 point line, making their rim protection null and void. Then Boston has freer lanes to drive and either Dallas collapses, closes off driving lanes and leaves open three point shooters (Part of the reason Boston spams so many 3's) or Dallas stays home on shooters and Tatum, Brown, White and Jrue has open lanes with no rim protection... Am I thinking about this right?

One obvious counter is to go PJ Washington as the 5, but I'm not sure that's the move -- it provides them more spacing on offense -- which is great, but it removes the lob threat that's been so great for them. Plus it doesn't solve the issue, Dallas on defense with Boston on offense.

It seems to me the way Dallas wins this is to go PJ at 5 and just play the outscore them game. I don't see Dallas' defense being nearly as effective as they have been against the Wolves and Thunder. I actually think Dallas is built to play this way as well. Doncic, Irving, DJJ, Washington and either Green, Hardy, or THJ depending on who's the hot man, is a heck of an offense squad -- the question becomes if it does play out this way, how long will it take Kidd to make this adjustment, and second, will PJ hold up at Center on the boards against Horford and Portzingis.


Jason Kidd won't do that if Lively is available beginning with Game 1. He'll play his centers. Second of all, we don't know what kind of shape Porzingis will be in. He hasn't played in weeks. Will he be rusty at all? What's his stamina looking like? I believe the Mavericks will at least test KP defensively for a game to see what he can do before they just commit to playing small ball in hopes of being able to defend. Kidd knows KP's game as well as he used to coach him. If Horford or Kornet is on the floor, there is no need to go small either. Horford is too hit/miss from the perimeter to change your whole defensive style like that.
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Post#1311 » by zshawn10 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:17 am

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Post#1312 » by ___Rand___ » Mon May 27, 2024 4:18 am

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It’s about having the size for 48min when on the other side is just 30-32min KP


KP? Are you talking about Celtics? There is a drop off for sure without Lively. I think they can survive it just like tonight. It makes Celtics series harder for Mavs because that's probably the advantage Mavs had in front court with Lively.



We 100% need Lively for the Celtics. Lively/Gafford for 48 mins is like having a Top 2 Center on the team. People are underestimating how badly Lively is needed. I hope he’s gonna be good to play the Next Series.

We need him whether KP play or not.


He's going to be fine by June 6th. I don't know how effective KP will be coming back from calf. Mavs have the advantage in front court here.
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Post#1313 » by karmew32 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:22 am

_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:At this point I'm just genuinely sad for the T'wolves fans... They had legitimate reasons to expect a very strong, even dominant run in this series. Many of them were already looking forward to how the T'wolves would handle the Celtics in the Finals...

...Only then to be completely blindsided by a squad of underdawgs who didn't get the memo how they were supposed to be easy wolf-fodder, and led by a pair of cold-'ice-in-their-veins'-blooded assassins, among the deadliest in recent times.

And so Luka's "real MVP" campaign, as well as Kyrie & Kidd's redemption arc rolls on. The Celtics watch & wait with keen interest.

It's also sad for Kings fans, knowing this could easily be them in this position had they picked the higher floor/higher ceiling prospect that everyone wanted and expected them to. Doubly painful for the fanbases of the 2 most inept West franchises over the past two decades.

This series feels like the status quo of franchise hierarchy asserting itself against all odds, like Horry keeping rings off the fingers of the Kings and Suns. The 2022 Mavs-Suns Game 7 was another "status quo is god" moment in terms of which franchises are the bridesmaids and which are the brides.
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Post#1314 » by G R E Y » Mon May 27, 2024 4:23 am

Top quality Mavs W.

Getting a destiny type of feeling with this team...
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Post#1315 » by sunsbg » Mon May 27, 2024 4:24 am

It's surprising the games have been close. Mavs with clear advantage in backcourt, but Wolves frontcourt has failed miserably. Towns < 30FG%, Gobert < 8rpg.
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Post#1317 » by styLesdavis » Mon May 27, 2024 4:25 am

After "the dunk" by Edwards i thought of the WCF 13 years ago when Kevin Durant posterized Brandon Haywood at the end of the first quarter in game 2 which completely changed the game (and the outcome). Glad that history didn`t repeat itself.
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