MVP discussion thread

[LBJ-ITALY]

For me it's
1A-Durant
1B-LBJ
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the rest of the league!

[Parker2Duncan]

Its already reversed. He is putting up better numbers by a good margin and his team only has one more loss.

Lebron
Durant

CP3

Durant 26 7 4
Lebron 25 6 6

Putting up better numbers you may want to check stats before you say things

First, KD is averaging 28.1, 7.3, 4.7
And LeBron is averaging 25.4, 6.9(lol you counted it as 6!!!), 6.6

Second, do you really just look at Per Game raw numbers and make conclusion?!
Dude, LeBron is shooting 60% and KD is shooting 48%! That's HUGE!
LeBron's eFG% and TS% are 64% and 67.9% respectively, KD's are 62.3% and 53.5%! again, Huge Dif.

Im not saying LeBron numbers are MUCH BETTER, but he clearly has the better stats and it's not that close TBH.

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

[mademan]

lol, 12% is not a lot...

[nyrangers08]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

What?

Lebron easily has superior stats and Durant's team has easily performed better at this point. The MVP could go either way.

[JulesWinnfield]

Here is the difference in the 12%

Lebron James could miss his next 97 shots in a row, and he would still be shooting better from the floor than KD.

[Antrim]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

Miami's record against the Western Conference: 6-0.

[Colbinii]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

Actually, FG% is one of the stats that doesn't vary from a minute to minute basis like a raw stat like PPG or RPG would.
If Lebron was playing 10 MPG then you could have an argument, but the fact that both of them are playing over 35 mpg just makes it seem like you don't understand basketball or what you are talking about.

12% is huge, especially for a Small Forward.

[Parker2Duncan]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

Actually, FG% is one of the stats that doesn't vary from a minute to minute basis like a raw stat like PPG or RPG would.
If Lebron was playing 10 MPG then you could have an argument, but the fact that both of them are playing over 35 mpg just makes it seem like you don't understand basketball or what you are talking about.

12% is huge, especially for a Small Forward.

FG% depends on many things and unless there is a huge disparity is not a big deal. Durant leads in points and assists and has better record

[Parker2Duncan]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

Miami's record against the Western Conference: 6-0.

They play only 6 games vs West that is the point 21 games they have played against the weak East. The Thunder are playing better teams.Right now I have

Durant
Lebron
Alderidge

[Parker2Duncan]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

What?

Lebron easily has superior stats and Durant's team has easily performed better at this point. The MVP could go either way.

Lebron 25.4 6.9 6.6
Kevin 28.1 8.1 4.7


How is that superior stats?

[colonel_von]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

What?

Lebron easily has superior stats and Durant's team has easily performed better at this point. The MVP could go either way.

Lebron 25.4 6.9 6.6
Kevin 28.1 8.1 4.7


How is that superior stats?

Efficiency. And that`s even with Durant flopping to the line 6-8 times per game

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Miami's record against the Western Conference: 6-0.

Not trying to take anything away from Miami, they are the 2 time defending champs and they can only play who is on the schedule. That being said, have you seen their schedule?

They had to have had the easiest schedule in the league so far.

Teams above .500:
Pacers x2
Atlanta x2
Clippers
Suns
Mavericks

[washderice]

PER is not a great way to show who a better player is, but it IS great at showing who has better stats. so for the guy who doesn't understand how lebron has better stats than durant (or how a 12% fg difference isnt big...really dude?) look at the PER list for this season. lebron over 30 like usual, no one else over 28.

on topic, i got durant and lebron 1a/1b right now.

[xBulletproof]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much

Holy crap. Someone really said this? This was a sarcastic post that I missed the sarcasm on, yes?

[bbms]

LeBron is having better stats, and neither of them are playing to their bests, yet, they are putting up the best single seasons in ten years. Neither of them are being asked to give their best on court for their teams to shoot for HCA so, they just don't do it.

Though I'd say Durant's impact on the game is a lot closer than his stats, compared to LeBron, always relatively to role on offense. As you can see I'm a big Durant homer, but I do have reasons to think so.

[nyrangers08]

Wow Lebron is shooting a whole 12% that is not much and a lot of that has to do with Durant has played more minutes. Durant also plays in a tougher conference then the Leastern Conference. I am not saying Lebron can not win MVP but to put him ahead now is silly.

What?

Lebron easily has superior stats and Durant's team has easily performed better at this point. The MVP could go either way.

Lebron 25.4 6.9 6.6
Kevin 28.1 8.1 4.7


How is that superior stats?

Per 36 minutes, Lebron is averaging 2 more assists, 1 less rebound, and 1 less point. There are other stats where Lebron has significant separation over the pack such as PER, TS%, FG%, etc.

[Parker2Duncan]

What?

Lebron easily has superior stats and Durant's team has easily performed better at this point. The MVP could go either way.

Lebron 25.4 6.9 6.6
Kevin 28.1 8.1 4.7


How is that superior stats?

Per 36 minutes, Lebron is averaging 2 more assists, 1 less rebound, and 1 less point. There are other stats where Lebron has significant separation over the pack such as PER, TS%, FG%, etc.

That is true but someone said Lebron has superior stats to Durant which is not true

[LBJ-ITALY]

Well, lebron had a bad game vs lakers tonight! for me KD still ahead of him!

[Antrim]

Miami's record against the Western Conference: 6-0.

Not trying to take anything away from Miami, they are the 2 time defending champs and they can only play who is on the schedule. That being said, have you seen their schedule?

They had to have had the easiest schedule in the league so far.

Teams above .500:
Pacers x2
Atlanta x2
Clippers
Suns
Mavericks

Miami's record against the Western Conference in their past 19 RS meetings:

19-0.

If they win Friday they tie the record for most straight against the WC ever.

You guys are fighting the battle of Thermopylae here.

[MMyhre]

Wade playing this good hurts LeBrons MVP chances. LBJ can coast more, I think this is KDs year.