Rookie Play, Highlights & Discussion

[KembaWalker]

Another easy 23-9-6 on 6-9 3pt shooting
pretty impressive night for LaMichael Carter-Williams imo

[Lakers LeBron]

People are quick to call Anthony Edwards a bust, but stay completely quiet on the guy immediately behind him who has only played 12 minutes in two of the last three games.

I think the Warriors are getting the benefit of the doubt because of how successful they've been over the last 6 years or so

But if any other franchise had drafted Wiseman, there would be serious questions. He's way worse than rookie Ayton for example and Ayton is still a work in progress

[FinnTheHuman]

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That dunk at 1:39. Melo knew better than to contest that, chose to crash into his own teammate instead lol. Man, there hasn't been a young guy with this combination of exciting dunks and star potential in a while, and I've been missing that.

[peZt]

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That dunk at 1:39. Melo knew better than to contest that, chose to crash into his own teammate instead lol. Man, there hasn't been a young guy with this combination of exciting dunks and star potential in a while, and I've been missing that.

That burst was just insane. How do you wanna stop a guy that fast and that strong? If he gets it together then pheww, good luck league.

Timberwolves have had enough lottery luck but I hope they can stay in the top 3 and grab either Suggs or Cunningham. These two would be instant mentality changers for the franchise

[Klomp]

People are quick to call Anthony Edwards a bust, but stay completely quiet on the guy immediately behind him who has only played 12 minutes in two of the last three games.

I think the Warriors are getting the benefit of the doubt because of how successful they've been over the last 6 years or so

But if any other franchise had drafted Wiseman, there would be serious questions. He's way worse than rookie Ayton for example and Ayton is still a work in progress

And that's fine. But what is Bob Myers' track record in the draft? He gets a ton of credit for two picks: Green and Paschall. But what about the rest? Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli, Ognjen Kuzmić, Kevon Looney, Damian Jones, Jacob Evans, Jordan Poole. Not exactly a great track record. I know they're mostly at the end of the first round, but that never stopped the Spurs from continuing to stockpile.

[Trey24]

Not sure why we can't lift all of these young rooks up versus always putting them against each other. I loved what Edwards said a few weeks ago, "I want this rookie class to kill it because everyone was clowning this draft, I want us all to do well"

[Quentin]

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That dunk at 1:39. Melo knew better than to contest that, chose to crash into his own teammate instead lol. Man, there hasn't been a young guy with this combination of exciting dunks and star potential in a while, and I've been missing that.

And again no love from the refs. Drove the hell out of the ball and got 2 calls all night including that non-foul on Covington that couldn't be overturned on replay....so it went off Edwards. Ridiculous rule. If you're going to review then review the whole play and make the right call.

[HotelVitale]

People are quick to call Anthony Edwards a bust, but stay completely quiet on the guy immediately behind him who has only played 12 minutes in two of the last three games.

I think the Warriors are getting the benefit of the doubt because of how successful they've been over the last 6 years or so But if any other franchise had drafted Wiseman, there would be serious questions. He's way worse than rookie Ayton for example and Ayton is still a work in progress

And that's fine. But what is Bob Myers' track record in the draft? He gets a ton of credit for two picks: Green and Paschall. But what about the rest? Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli, Ognjen Kuzmić, Kevon Looney, Damian Jones, Jacob Evans, Jordan Poole. Not exactly a great track record. I know they're mostly at the end of the first round, but that never stopped the Spurs from continuing to stockpile.

I know I'm a broken record on this board at this point but what 'questions' about the Warriors' FO are you talking about? Literally no human in the world had any way to know that Lamelo would come out this good right away, there's no secret test they could've done or some kind of magic thing a 'good' drafting GM can do to determine that. He was a top 5 prospect in pretty much everyone's book, and there were some obvious good and obvious bad things about him that everyone was more or less on the same page about. Just like with Wiseman. Every GM would be happy to tell you they're just guessing which of those good/bad things are real when they have to choose between a Wiseman or Ball, playing some hunches or letting some random stat or moment help make up their minds.

If you want to hold someone accountable just because it feels better, cool, I get that it's weird that something as important and variable as the draft isn't about skill. But we still shouldn't pretend that 'good' GMs know more about prospects than 'bad' ones do, or that they can somehow see past what everyone else can see to get at the real player. (Also remember that all the draft-time reports were saying that, if CHA had the #2, they would've taken Wiseman.)

[KembaWalker]

I think the Warriors are getting the benefit of the doubt because of how successful they've been over the last 6 years or so But if any other franchise had drafted Wiseman, there would be serious questions. He's way worse than rookie Ayton for example and Ayton is still a work in progress

And that's fine. But what is Bob Myers' track record in the draft? He gets a ton of credit for two picks: Green and Paschall. But what about the rest? Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli, Ognjen Kuzmić, Kevon Looney, Damian Jones, Jacob Evans, Jordan Poole. Not exactly a great track record. I know they're mostly at the end of the first round, but that never stopped the Spurs from continuing to stockpile.

I know I'm a broken record on this board at this point but what 'questions' about the Warriors' FO are you talking about? Literally no human in the world had any way to know that Lamelo would come out this good right away, there's no secret test they could've done or some kind of magic thing a 'good' drafting GM can do to determine that. He was a top 5 prospect in pretty much everyone's book, and there were some obvious good and obvious bad things about him that everyone was more or less on the same page about. Just like with Wiseman. Every GM would be happy to tell you they're just guessing which of those good/bad things are real when they have to choose between a Wiseman or Ball, playing some hunches or letting some random stat or moment help make up their minds.

If you want to hold someone accountable just because it feels better, cool, I get that it's weird that something as important and variable as the draft isn't about skill. But we still shouldn't pretend that 'good' GMs know more about prospects than 'bad' ones do, or that they can somehow see past what everyone else can see to get at the real player. (Also remember that all the draft-time reports were saying that, if CHA had the #2, they would've taken Wiseman.)

[LofJ]

Unless you're ridiculously skilled unicorn like Anthony Davis it takes time for bigs to develop. The book on Wiseman has barely left the foreword.

[amcoolio]

Unless you're ridiculously skilled unicorn like Anthony Davis it takes time for bigs to develop. The book on Wiseman has barely left the foreword.

I think Charlotte fans (except me and MI) are higher on Wiseman than Golden State fans

So best case scenario, Wiseman is what....Myles Turner? He doesn't possess the ball handling/passing/defensive awareness to have a higher ceiling. I feel like those guys are available most drafts and you can get them in the late lottery-mid first
Bam, Sabonis, Turner, Jokic, Gobert, Vucevic, Nurkic, Giannis, Allen, Adams, Capela, Jordan, Wood all taken late lottery to undrafted

[peZt]

Pokusevski having his breakout game right now.

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[Klomp]

If the refs had any air in their lungs Ant would have had a much better showing too. How many damn times does he get fouled with no call? That one where the guy came down on his HAND from behind on a breakaway? Come on.

So tired of this "rookie whistle" that a bunch of Rookies are getting this year, including Lamelo. It is sickening and a real shame that the game is officiated different ways for different people, and in my opinion it is a health hazard. The comparison between the common way of reffing and the superstar calls is one thing, but you can almost flagrant foul a rookie before the whistle blows, and we are just supposed to laugh and say, rookie calls!

I just don't want to see these young studs get hurt because of the most biased officials in sports

That some strong words (‘sickened’) so can you tell us what you think is going on? Even assuming that rookie whistles are a thing, are you implying it’s a conspiracy that the nba is in on to make life hard on young players? The nba also puts a lot of effort into hyping up up and coming players so it seems like making their refs biased against them is counterproductive at best. What’s your theory about why rookie reffing happens, and who benefits?

You don't think it's a thing?

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[Domejandro]

Anthony Edwards finished the night with 34 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 assists, including the following dunk.

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[turnaroundJ]

Anthony Edwards finished the night with 34 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 assists, including the following dunk.

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damn that's some prime d-wade ****

[Clocian]

Career high for The Paw!

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[DroseReturnChi]

kawhi 2.0 with 23/6/4. Would have easily won ROY if those bums were benched earlier.