Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[The-Power]

teams don't see gsw as a threat so they're letting curry go, imo.

Someone's not even bothered to watch at least the highlights before making silly comments.

Besides the fact that obviously this post doesn't even make sense logically; as if teams are fine losing because the team they are losing to isn't a contender.

[rtiff68]

As long as Steve Kerr is saying things like, "We aren't going to play Steph more minutes just to 'chase' wins"

Curry and the Warriors are a joke and should be boycotted. I personally will not be watching any Warriors games anymore.

What happened to the competitive spirit?

If you feel that strongly about what he said, then I’m assuming you weren’t cheering for the Raptors in 2019...

[lars_rosenberg]

gsw is playing where i expected,,,just outside the playoffs.

teams don't see gsw as a threat so they're letting curry go, imo. or let me put it this way. in last year's bubble the first 5 games curry was in all the teams were hyped about shutting him down and they did.

this is a real season, not a bubble playoffs, and since gsw poses virtually zero threat the teams are letting curry go do his thing

still, i give curry his just due. his numbers look good

The Warriors were not in the bubble, check your facts before posting nonsense.

[Metallikid]

As long as Steve Kerr is saying things like, "We aren't going to play Steph more minutes just to 'chase' wins"

Curry and the Warriors are a joke and should be boycotted. I personally will not be watching any Warriors games anymore.

What happened to the competitive spirit?

If you feel that strongly about what he said, then I’m assuming you weren’t cheering for the Raptors in 2019...

Holding Curry out for no reason other than to secure losses vs. a guy with a degenerative condition who gave it all when he was on the floor and was clearly injured and heavily limping by the time we won the title.

Apples and Elephants, man.

[Neutral 123]

Lol looks like he found some undies.

[SpreeS]

Nice to be exposed

VORP 2nd
BPM 4th
WS 4th
PER 8th
TS% between TOP scorers 4th (George/Embiid/KD)
PTS 1st
PTS/G 2nd
3P 1st
RPM(ESPN) 2nd
ORPM(ESPN) 1st by huge margin
WINS(ESPN) 1st

Curry in ORTG 114.3
Curry out ORTG 111.6
Curry w/o Oubre ORTG 132 (262min)

in last 6 games

Curry 36PTS .78 TS
Curry in ORTG 125.7 DRTG 108.7 NET +17.0
Curry out ORTG 97.2 DRTG 99.4 NET -2.2

[warriorschamps]

Steph is leading the league in ORPM as he has every year since 2012-13 except last year 5 game campaign. All advanced stats love Steph. The plus minus king is still alive.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/warriors-steph-currys-dominance-stat-continues-2020-21-nba-season

[Lalouie]

gsw is playing where i expected,,,just outside the playoffs.

teams don't see gsw as a threat so they're letting curry go, imo. or let me put it this way. in last year's bubble the first 5 games curry was in all the teams were hyped about shutting him down and they did.

this is a real season, not a bubble playoffs, and since gsw poses virtually zero threat the teams are letting curry go do his thing

still, i give curry his just due. his numbers look good

The Warriors were not in the bubble, check your facts before posting nonsense.

true,,my mistake. point remains, teams in those 5games the teams thought it mattered that they stop curry. they did. they suffocated him

[michaelm]

gsw is playing where i expected,,,just outside the playoffs.

teams don't see gsw as a threat so they're letting curry go, imo. or let me put it this way. in last year's bubble the first 5 games curry was in all the teams were hyped about shutting him down and they did.

this is a real season, not a bubble playoffs, and since gsw poses virtually zero threat the teams are letting curry go do his thing

still, i give curry his just due. his numbers look good

The Warriors were not in the bubble, check your facts before posting nonsense.

true,,my mistake. point remains, teams in those 5games the teams thought it mattered that they stop curry. they did. they suffocated him

Fairly obvious you drew your conclusion then sought your evidence, which is sadly lacking. You didn't even know the circumstances in which Curry played his games last season, so are unlikely to be informed about how he was defended in those games and how this compares with this year. It seems unlikely that he is being triple teamed because teams are unconcerned about his impact however.

Sure the Lakers might not have cared much in that particular game given how bad GSW had looked early season. It takes time for new players to adjust to playing with Curry in the relatively complex GSW playing scheme. I also recall a mediocre stretch when KD went down in 2017, after which they started playing better without him than they had played with him, not that the regular season had much relevance for that 2017 team.

[Impuniti]

gsw is playing where i expected,,,just outside the playoffs.

teams don't see gsw as a threat so they're letting curry go, imo. or let me put it this way. in last year's bubble the first 5 games curry was in all the teams were hyped about shutting him down and they did.

this is a real season, not a bubble playoffs, and since gsw poses virtually zero threat the teams are letting curry go do his thing

still, i give curry his just due. his numbers look good

The Warriors were not in the bubble, check your facts before posting nonsense.

true,,my mistake. point remains, teams in those 5games the teams thought it mattered that they stop curry. they did. they suffocated him

Your point like the original post is wrong. Curry was terrible the first few games of this season as well, before he turned it around completely.

[Raps in 4]

66% TS on the season now, while being surrounded by nothing but scrubs.

So much for the argument that Curry was a product of teammates that created space for him. Curry is the second best player of the decade, and it isn't close. Top-5 player of the past 30 years.

[knuckles862]

I remember people trying to discredit his whole legacy for the 5 games he played last season where he had a rough start. He started off rough this year and is still putting up ridiculous numbers

[Vladimir777]

Steph definitely proved me wrong. I was in the camp thinking he would get shown up this year, but I will admit he proved me wrong.

Much respect for coming forward and saying that. Not everyone gets to see him play as much as some of us, so its easy to believe some of the narratives that some people throw out there. Steph has been underestimated his entire basketball life, its nice to see people realizing that maybe our teams rise during his prime wasnt a coincidence. Steph was always the system.

No worries. Yeah, I mainly watch Wizards games, so I barely watch Warriors games until it gets to be playoff time.

[Vladimir777]

Steph definitely proved me wrong. I was in the camp thinking he would get shown up this year, but I will admit he proved me wrong.

I was in that camp too and will admit that I was wrong. Still averaging the same 3 point efficiency playing with guys like Wiggins and Green who can’t hit a open shot to save their life. He might actually surpass his 2016 season shooting wise from 3.

So to both Vladimir and Joerezz, can you explain why you were wrong? I mean this is a guy who's been lighting the league up going back to like 2013. The biggest concerns seemed health and age. Were those the issues? I mean this guy has completely changed the league and is a clear top tier all time offensive player. So why did you doubt him? Just his size?

First off, let me preface my response by saying I have a personal bias against Steph Curry. I've always admitted to that, and I don't know why it is, but I always root against him. Not his fault, but just my own personal bias.

I would say, my concerns were definitely more health than size, although I do think his size hurts him come playoff time, where more of the game revolves around ability to get off difficult shots, which can be tougher for him than other, bigger players. I always figured that Steph was more of a ceiling-raiser than floor-raiser, and that he would get "exposed" when paired with a bad supporting cast.

I do think Steph was a top 3 player in the league basically from 2015-2019, but I also thought that maybe his peak period, or even prime, had passed.

[rtiff68]

As long as Steve Kerr is saying things like, "We aren't going to play Steph more minutes just to 'chase' wins"

Curry and the Warriors are a joke and should be boycotted. I personally will not be watching any Warriors games anymore.

What happened to the competitive spirit?

If you feel that strongly about what he said, then I’m assuming you weren’t cheering for the Raptors in 2019...

Holding Curry out for no reason other than to secure losses vs. a guy with a degenerative condition who gave it all when he was on the floor and was clearly injured and heavily limping by the time we won the title.

Apples and Elephants, man.

You are doing some serious mental gymnastics, dude.

Kerr’s not “trying to secure losses;” he simply said that he’s not going to compromise their plan for Steph’s long term health by playing him more minutes than previously planned.

Sticking to a predetermined plan for minutes rather than ditching it to possibly secure an extra regular season win or two here and there is literally the very definition of “load management,” and the exact same thing the Raptors did with Kawhi and the Spurs did with Duncan, Manu, Parker, etc.

For you to self righteously denounce the Warriors and Kerr for that statement while defending Leonard is hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

...and btw, Steph is playing more mpg than Joel Embiid, and Anthony Davis, and he’s started more games than the aforementioned Kawhi.

[Metallikid]

If you feel that strongly about what he said, then I’m assuming you weren’t cheering for the Raptors in 2019...

Holding Curry out for no reason other than to secure losses vs. a guy with a degenerative condition who gave it all when he was on the floor and was clearly injured and heavily limping by the time we won the title.

Apples and Elephants, man.

You are doing some serious mental gymnastics, dude.

Kerr’s not “trying to secure losses;” he simply said that he’s not going to compromise their plan for Steph’s long term health by playing him more minutes than previously planned.

Sticking to a predetermined plan for minutes rather than ditching it to possibly secure an extra regular season win or two here and there is literally the very definition of “load management,” and the exact same thing the Raptors did with Kawhi and the Spurs did with Duncan, Manu, Parker, etc.

For you to self righteously denounce the Warriors and Kerr for that statement while defending Leonard is hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

...and btw, Steph is playing more mpg than Joel Embiid, and Anthony Davis, and he’s started more games than the aforementioned Kawhi.

Dude, he's in perfect health. If it's a close game he should be playing. Stop trying to justify an anti-competitive culture.

Kawhi has a degenerative condition. That's the only reason load management was ever acceptable for him.

[TheDeadDodo]

Dude, he's in perfect health. If it's a close game he should be playing. Stop trying to justify an anti-competitive culture.

Exactly. No one's suggesting that Kerr go full Thibodeau, just that he use his best offensive weapon for a few minutes more in games where it might make a difference.

[HeartBreakKid]

66% TS on the season now, while being surrounded by nothing but scrubs.

So much for the argument that Curry was a product of teammates that created space for him. Curry is the second best player of the decade, and it isn't close. Top-4 player of the past 30 years.

I never heard of teammates creating space for Curry argument before...but he certainly isn't the second best player of the league by a margin where it 'isn't even close' - he might have the best and cleanest narrative but to say that there are no other players close to him is a bit much.

Not a top 4 player in the past 30 years either...you're saying he's better than Duncan or Olajuwon and a few others with less prettier careers.


You're talking like he's a top ten player all time.

[Raps in 4]

66% TS on the season now, while being surrounded by nothing but scrubs.

So much for the argument that Curry was a product of teammates that created space for him. Curry is the second best player of the decade, and it isn't close. Top-4 player of the past 30 years.

I never heard of teammates creating space for Curry argument before...but he certainly isn't the second best player of the league by a margin where it 'isn't even close' - he might have the best and cleanest narrative but to say that there are no other players close to him is a bit much.

Not a top 4 player in the past 30 years either...you're saying he's better than Duncan or Olajuwon and a few others with less prettier careers.


You're talking like he's a top ten player all time.

The only 2 players I'd take over him without question are Jordan and Lebron. There is an argument to be made for Shaq, Duncan, and Hakeem (forgot about him when I wrote that). His dominance of the game is at an ATG level.

[rtiff68]

Holding Curry out for no reason other than to secure losses vs. a guy with a degenerative condition who gave it all when he was on the floor and was clearly injured and heavily limping by the time we won the title.

Apples and Elephants, man.

You are doing some serious mental gymnastics, dude.

Kerr’s not “trying to secure losses;” he simply said that he’s not going to compromise their plan for Steph’s long term health by playing him more minutes than previously planned.

Sticking to a predetermined plan for minutes rather than ditching it to possibly secure an extra regular season win or two here and there is literally the very definition of “load management,” and the exact same thing the Raptors did with Kawhi and the Spurs did with Duncan, Manu, Parker, etc.

For you to self righteously denounce the Warriors and Kerr for that statement while defending Leonard is hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

...and btw, Steph is playing more mpg than Joel Embiid, and Anthony Davis, and he’s started more games than the aforementioned Kawhi.

Dude, he's in perfect health. If it's a close game he should be playing. Stop trying to justify an anti-competitive culture.

Kawhi has a degenerative condition. That's the only reason load management was ever acceptable for him.

Dude, get out of here.

He has started every single game this year. He is 32nd in minutes per game, and 10th in total minutes played...in his 12th season with 5 consecutive Finals runs on his odometer as well. He's had a multitude of lower body injuries throughout his career. His coach not over-extending him in early in the season is just common sense, not "anti-competitive."