NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 3: Son of Daughter of MVP thread)

[greekman]

jokic wouldn't be winning anything if murray wasn't always playing at a high level

So you saying you need players on your team to win? Wow what insight. Next thing you will say is that jokic will need 4 more players playing with him at all times.

i said at a high level as in bubble murray. understand ?

[Wolfgang630]

What will it mean for Jokic if he has 3 MVPs? He’ll join 8 players:

Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Bird
Lebron
MJ
Magic
Moses Malone

7 of those guys are considered top 10 by many. Moses I’m not sure where he’s generally ranked. Moses only with one ring. Multiple nba finals rings is the key thing here.

[MyTake_1]

jokic wouldn't be winning anything if murray wasn't always playing at a high level

So you saying you need players on your team to win? Wow what insight. Next thing you will say is that jokic will need 4 more players playing with him at all times.

i said at a high level as in bubble murray. understand ?

The question is, can you name a player you would replace Jokic with and still win a chip with the same team?

Embiid? Giannis? LBJ? I don't think so.

[greekman]

So you saying you need players on your team to win? Wow what insight. Next thing you will say is that jokic will need 4 more players playing with him at all times.

i said at a high level as in bubble murray. understand ?

The question is, can you name a player you would replace Jokic with and still win a chip with the same team?

Embiid? Giannis? LBJ? I don't think so.

name a player you would replace murray with and still a chip with the same team ? i don't think lillard would do it.

[Wolfgang630]

i said at a high level as in bubble murray. understand ?

The question is, can you name a player you would replace Jokic with and still win a chip with the same team?

Embiid? Giannis? LBJ? I don't think so.

name a player you would replace murray with and still a chip with the same team ? i don't think lillard would do it.

Lillard instead of Murray would’ve won a championship.

[greekman]

The question is, can you name a player you would replace Jokic with and still win a chip with the same team?

Embiid? Giannis? LBJ? I don't think so.

name a player you would replace murray with and still a chip with the same team ? i don't think lillard would do it.

Lillard instead of Murray would’ve won a championship.

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

[MyTake_1]

name a player you would replace murray with and still a chip with the same team ? i don't think lillard would do it.

Lillard instead of Murray would’ve won a championship.

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

There are several options, can you imagine Curry or Luka. Booker, SGA, just to point out some obvious choices.

The nuggets are what they are thanks to Jokic, not because of Murray.

[Exp0sed]

jokic wouldn't be winning anything if murray wasn't always playing at a high level

So you saying you need players on your team to win? Wow what insight. Next thing you will say is that jokic will need 4 more players playing with him at all times.

i said at a high level as in bubble murray. understand ?

lol, with MPJ, AG and KCP? ur right!
name the NBA player past or present that will win a chip this season with MPJ, AG and KCP

over the likes of Giannis + Dame + Middelton + Lopez or Tatum\Brown\KP, Clippers big 4, Minny's big 3, OKC, PHX trio etc. etc. - i'll wait

[greekman]

Lillard instead of Murray would’ve won a championship.

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

There are several options, can you imagine Curry or Luka. Booker, SGA, just to point out some obvious choices.

so you admit jokic is playing with an mvp-calibre player.

[RB34]

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

There are several options, can you imagine Curry or Luka. Booker, SGA, just to point out some obvious choices.

so you admit jokic is playing with an mvp-calibre player.

Murray has never made an All Star team but somehow he’s an MVP talent?

Murray is great but he’s not MVP caliber.

[The-Power]

OKC has been more up and down lately.

But SGA, besides the back-to-back against the Lakers and Clippers, has not.

I could see Tatum getting some late buzz if Celtics go above and beyond 60 wins while having a 5+ game lead on the rest of the league.

I really don't see that. The gap between Tatum and the MVP front runners is too large and the gap in their respective team record too small (even with a hypothetical 5-game lead) to choose Tatum here assuming relatively constant individual performances. Perhaps he makes the All-NBA 1st Team, though.

[MyTake_1]

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

There are several options, can you imagine Curry or Luka. Booker, SGA, just to point out some obvious choices.

so you admit jokic is playing with an mvp-calibre player.

I am not admitting anything, I am just saying numerous players could replace Murry, but none that can replace Jokic.

You keep playing this stupid game of bad logic for some idiotic reason. What are you trying to say anyway?

[greekman]

There are several options, can you imagine Curry or Luka. Booker, SGA, just to point out some obvious choices.

so you admit jokic is playing with an mvp-calibre player.

Murray has never made an All Star team but somehow he’s an MVP talent?

Murray is great but he’s not MVP caliber.

did you watch last year's postseason ? did booker make the all star team ? what about brunson ?

[RB34]

so you admit jokic is playing with an mvp-calibre player.

Murray has never made an All Star team but somehow he’s an MVP talent?

Murray is great but he’s not MVP caliber.

did you watch last year's postseason ? did booker make the all star team ? what about brunson ?

I certainly did and I watched him destroy the Celts recently. Does not mean he’s an MVP caliber player.

I like Murray and think he’s one of the best guards in the league but the Nugs are the Nugs because of Joker.

[Sgt Major]

jokic wouldn't be winning anything if murray wasn't always playing at a high level

Post of the month.

[Wolfgang630]

Murray “mvp caliber”. Words no human will ever say.

[Roger Murdock]

I’m fairly confident Murray will never get a single MVP vote in his entire career

[greekman]

jokic wouldn't be winning anything if murray wasn't always playing at a high level

Post of the month.

put it as your sig and watch him avg 27 ppg on 52% shooting in the postseason.

[Jaqua92]

name a player you would replace murray with and still a chip with the same team ? i don't think lillard would do it.

Lillard instead of Murray would’ve won a championship.

murray was the one of the best players in the playoffs. lillard wouldn't have kept up.

lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason, murray has been about 50% in last 40 postseason games.
murray as 33/5/6 on 53% shooting in the series against the lakers that put them in the finals.

Giving Murray credit for Jokic's success is silly.

[Jaqua92]

Now that the Embiid train has died, we now have the Giannis brigade trying to take down Jokic