Miami is #1, did you think it would happen this quickly?

[Meeks]

mia is pretty much unstoppable, they havent lost a game in like a month, and even that was against dallas when terry got hot in the 4th (chances of him doing that consistently in a 7 game series are slim to none)

the only team that could beat them is perhaps OK if durant continues to improve and they add a legit big man

oh I guess Bos 2 wins this season against them were just a fluke?

umm yea they needed time to gel together, now that it has happened, they are steamrolling everyone, including the defending champs

ya everyone including BOS right???

[FinNasty]

Actually it's different. The Cavs won playoff games. The Heat haven't won anything. It's all talk. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have proven they can win a championship. The Heat haven't won anything.

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years, until the Heat actually do something it's all talk. The Heat haven't proved they can beat the Celtics in the regular season nevermind a best of 7 series.

Lol now its heat haven't proven anything in the playoffs.

-Heat just signed,"for all we know they can be a a 50 win team and not mesh


9-8 start-"Of course they are 9-8, you can't have three ball dominant players on the same team,the experiment has failed".

-When Heat were on a 10 game winning streak- "Heat still haven't proven they can beat good teams all they do is beat bottom feeder teams and 9th seeded teams (Heat go on to beat Hawks,Utah, Hornets,Nyk)

Heat on 14,15 game winning streak-"HA! Let them beat ELITE teams, they will surely lose to Lakers".(Heat go on to thrash Lakers)

Now- "Heat are just a regular season team, we've seen the Cavs, they haven't proven they can beat teams in the playoffs, come playoffs they will get thrashed by the either the Lakers or Celtics".


Eventually If Heat do win the championship:

"Heat have two top 2 players in the league and a 24-10 PF of course they will win the championship, LeBron took the easy way out, the league is ruined".

Just would like to thank this post...

Its truly hilarious...

[FinNasty]

mia is pretty much unstoppable, they havent lost a game in like a month, and even that was against dallas when terry got hot in the 4th (chances of him doing that consistently in a 7 game series are slim to none)

the only team that could beat them is perhaps OK if durant continues to improve and they add a legit big man

oh I guess Bos 2 wins this season against them were just a fluke?

No fluke at all...

But Boston was playing a completely different team. Dont know how you can really compare the 2...

[Flash3]

Actually it's different. The Cavs won playoff games. The Heat haven't won anything. It's all talk. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have proven they can win a championship. The Heat haven't won anything.

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years, until the Heat actually do something it's all talk. The Heat haven't proved they can beat the Celtics in the regular season nevermind a best of 7 series.

U R RIGHT....

We should close down NBA internet forums until after the playoffs because clearly you cannot post with any legitimate credibility until all the results are in at the end of the year.

The Heat HAVE to win it all for a discussion about how good they are to even begin.

U R RIGHT...

See you in June.

Everyone can have a discussion about the Heat. The only thing I am saying is no one including myself knows how good they are because they haven't done anything. We all will find out later.

Neither have those other teams if you really dig down into them. All of them, including the Heat, have won titles but in the past. The past is the past so it doesn't really matter.

All the teams above, aside from Boston, have some new main contributors that can change the way the team plays in the post season, making the past irrelevant.

I don't get your point or lack there of it.

[No Offense]

I'm not surprised at all. There are only about 4 or 5 guys in the entire league that should be mentioned in the same breath as LeBron and Wade. The Heat have two of them. To cap things off, they also have Chris Bosh.

[Flash3]

Toronto fans spent hours on end to make their points of how Bosh is a top 5/10 player in this league for many years and they always got the short end of the stick but now you have people calling a much limited Bosh a top 10 player?

[AllBall]

Actually it's different. The Cavs won playoff games. The Heat haven't won anything. It's all talk. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have proven they can win a championship. The Heat haven't won anything.

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years, until the Heat actually do something it's all talk. The Heat haven't proved they can beat the Celtics in the regular season nevermind a best of 7 series.

Lol now its heat haven't proven anything in the playoffs.

-Heat just signed,"for all we know they can be a a 50 win team and not mesh


9-8 start-"Of course they are 9-8, you can't have three ball dominant players on the same team,the experiment has failed".

-When Heat were on a 10 game winning streak- "Heat still haven't proven they can beat good teams all they do is beat bottom feeder teams and 9th seeded teams (Heat go on to beat Hawks,Utah, Hornets,Nyk)

Heat on 14,15 game winning streak-"HA! Let them beat ELITE teams, they will surely lose to Lakers".(Heat go on to thrash Lakers)

Now- "Heat are just a regular season team, we've seen the Cavs, they haven't proven they can beat teams in the playoffs, come playoffs they will get thrashed by the either the Lakers or Celtics".


Eventually If Heat do win the championship:

"Heat have two top 2 players in the league and a 24-10 PF of course they will win the championship, LeBron took the easy way out, the league is ruined".

You nailed RealGM logic there!

[No Offense]

Eventually If Heat do win the championship:

"Heat have two top 2 players in the league and a 24-10 PF of course they will win the championship, LeBron took the easy way out, the league is ruined".

I don't think there is anything wrong with this sentiment. I agree with it and am fully expecting it.

[Deepness5134]

Actually it's different. The Cavs won playoff games. The Heat haven't won anything. It's all talk. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have proven they can win a championship. The Heat haven't won anything.

Just like the Cavs the last 2 years, until the Heat actually do something it's all talk. The Heat haven't proved they can beat the Celtics in the regular season nevermind a best of 7 series.

Lol now its heat haven't proven anything in the playoffs.

-Heat just signed,"for all we know they can be a a 50 win team and not mesh


9-8 start-"Of course they are 9-8, you can't have three ball dominant players on the same team,the experiment has failed".

-When Heat were on a 10 game winning streak- "Heat still haven't proven they can beat good teams all they do is beat bottom feeder teams and 9th seeded teams (Heat go on to beat Hawks,Utah, Hornets,Nyk)

Heat on 14,15 game winning streak-"HA! Let them beat ELITE teams, they will surely lose to Lakers".(Heat go on to thrash Lakers)

Now- "Heat are just a regular season team, we've seen the Cavs, they haven't proven they can beat teams in the playoffs, come playoffs they will get thrashed by the either the Lakers or Celtics".


Eventually If Heat do win the championship:

"Heat have two top 2 players in the league and a 24-10 PF of course they will win the championship, LeBron took the easy way out, the league is ruined".

1. Yea...thats about natural progression of how things work. I don't understand why you're making it sound like it's ridiculous. Same thing happened w/ Boston when they got their big 3. Until you win the championship - there is going to be people questioning and doubting. I don't think thats strange at all.

2. To be fair "Heat have two top 2 players in the league and a 24-10 PF of course they will win the championship, LeBron took the easy way out, the league is ruined" was already being said when they came, so it's not like it's coming out of no where.

3. What is this need for you to point out the lack of respect your team is getting? There isn't even a basketball comment in your post, just criticizes another poster's thought.

To be fair Chosen1, it's not just you - I see this w/ other heat posters as well. I especially love when you copy and paste another persons thought on a different board and bring it over to your board to laugh at. This is why, atleast myself, there is a feeling of animosity toward your board (except the few posters that i've seen for a while like tim_hardaway and flash).

As for the heat - and the actual topic at hand - I'm less impressed w/ the offense, i haven't been blown away yet really (not say it isn't good, it's great) but when you have LBJ/Wade, I figured I'd see more). I'm actually more impressed and really worried about their defense.

I think looking at how things have worked out - I think they got that 1 seed at the right time.

I will say this, regardless of the seeding in these playoffs, the semi's are gonna suck in the East. I don't see anyone below the top 4 causing an upset so going into the semi's a team is going to have to through two of Boston, Chicago, Orlando, Miami. Thats ridiculous. I'll say it right now, The east wins the title easily over whoever makes it out of the west.

[Meeks]

Toronto fans spent hours on end to make their points of how Bosh is a top 5/10 player in this league for many years and they always got the short end of the stick but now you have people calling a much limited Bosh a top 10 player?

Hours??? Try 7 years bud lol but I was never one who thought he was going to stay with us. Im not even bitter he left and joined Wade. im bitter that Im a raptor fan

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Just let this thread die. It wasn't even started by a Heat fan, and its just causing bickering between Heat fans and non-Heat fans.

[Flash3]

As for the heat - and the actual topic at hand - I'm less impressed w/ the offense, i haven't been blown away yet really (not say it isn't good, it's great) but when you have LBJ/Wade, I figured I'd see more). I'm actually more impressed and really worried about their defense.

the offense is still not anywhere to what I want nor feel this team should be running with the talent they have but that's not the players faults but more so on the coach himself in Spoelstra. Spoelstra (at this time at least) is just not capable of implementing a Showtime offense as many of us think he should with the talent in place.

Maybe this will come in the summer and hopefully it will. But those who have watched this team from game 1 to game 40 as we're coming on now have seen the offense improve LEAPS AND BOUNDS from where it was nearly constant isos with LeBron and Wade to both of them now using one another's presence to better take advantage of the opportunity they have.

Still a work in progress.

[Flash3]

Toronto fans spent hours on end to make their points of how Bosh is a top 5/10 player in this league for many years and they always got the short end of the stick but now you have people calling a much limited Bosh a top 10 player?

Hours??? Try 7 years bud lol but I was never one who thought he was going to stay with us. Im not even bitter he left and joined Wade. im bitter that Im a raptor fan

Close enough

[Deepness5134]

As for the heat - and the actual topic at hand - I'm less impressed w/ the offense, i haven't been blown away yet really (not say it isn't good, it's great) but when you have LBJ/Wade, I figured I'd see more). I'm actually more impressed and really worried about their defense.

the offense is still not anywhere to what I want nor feel this team should be running with the talent they have but that's not the players faults but more so on the coach himself in Spoelstra. Spoelstra (at this time at least) is just not capable of implementing a Showtime offense as many of us think he should with the talent in place.

Maybe this will come in the summer and hopefully it will. But those who have watched this team from game 1 to game 40 as we're coming on now have seen the offense improve LEAPS AND BOUNDS from where it was nearly constant isos with LeBron and Wade to both of them now using one another's presence to better take advantage of the opportunity they have.

Still a work in progress.

Speaking of...I actually don't know what the offense you guys are running. I don't really follow the heat until the last couple mins and thats basicaly LBJ/Wade Iso-time.

[AllBall]

Flash3 can you believe it!? We still got 4 months to get better!!

[calamity]

Just let this thread die. It wasn't even started by a Heat fan, and its just causing bickering between Heat fans and non-Heat fans.

sadly this strategy works well on realgm. replace Heat with any popular team. same results. folks fall for it every time. I am guilty myself.

[Flash3]

As for the heat - and the actual topic at hand - I'm less impressed w/ the offense, i haven't been blown away yet really (not say it isn't good, it's great) but when you have LBJ/Wade, I figured I'd see more). I'm actually more impressed and really worried about their defense.

the offense is still not anywhere to what I want nor feel this team should be running with the talent they have but that's not the players faults but more so on the coach himself in Spoelstra. Spoelstra (at this time at least) is just not capable of implementing a Showtime offense as many of us think he should with the talent in place.

Maybe this will come in the summer and hopefully it will. But those who have watched this team from game 1 to game 40 as we're coming on now have seen the offense improve LEAPS AND BOUNDS from where it was nearly constant isos with LeBron and Wade to both of them now using one another's presence to better take advantage of the opportunity they have.

Still a work in progress.

Speaking of...I actually don't know what the offense you guys are running. I don't really follow the heat until the last couple mins and thats basicaly LBJ/Wade Iso-time.

Well, the last few minutes is always going to be LBJ and Wade going one on one because that's their comfort zone and usually is the case with any team when you have that great perimeter player. Kobe did it even with Shaq as did Wade when he played with Shaq. But LeBron and Wade have the luxury of taking turns and the defense, well they don't know what's coming.

[KDS91]

As for the heat - and the actual topic at hand - I'm less impressed w/ the offense, i haven't been blown away yet really (not say it isn't good, it's great) but when you have LBJ/Wade, I figured I'd see more). I'm actually more impressed and really worried about their defense.

the offense is still not anywhere to what I want nor feel this team should be running with the talent they have but that's not the players faults but more so on the coach himself in Spoelstra. Spoelstra (at this time at least) is just not capable of implementing a Showtime offense as many of us think he should with the talent in place.

Maybe this will come in the summer and hopefully it will. But those who have watched this team from game 1 to game 40 as we're coming on now have seen the offense improve LEAPS AND BOUNDS from where it was nearly constant isos with LeBron and Wade to both of them now using one another's presence to better take advantage of the opportunity they have.

Still a work in progress.

Indeed.

Good thing for Miami's defense. I didn't understand why some people were saying that Miami's defense will suck.

I'm not his biggest fan, but Spo is doing a good job of getting our players to play defense, and Miami's teams were usually great defensively in the Pat Riley era. Miami was the 2nd best team last season in points allowed per game, and we were starting Michael Beasley, Quentin Richardson, and Carlos Arroyo.

Wade is capable of lockdown defense, except he tends to gamble on steals and let opposing guards score. Ditto for Lebron.

Even Bosh is showing signs of improvement. James Jones is doing a good job of taking charges in the absence of Haslem.

Chalmers is good at playing the passing lanes ,though he has trouble keeping people in front of him and tends to be over-aggressive and get silly fouls.

Dampier, when he plays, protects the paint.

Joel gets blocks and is good for a laugh, since he can't do anything else.

And the Heat are still one of their best defensive players in Udonis Haslem, who provides toughness, energy, and takes charges.

So while the offense can still be iffy, as previously said, Miami is already a fearful team on defense.

[Deepness5134]

Well, the last few minutes is always going to be LBJ and Wade going one on one because that's their comfort zone and usually is the case with any team when you have that great perimeter player. Kobe did it even with Shaq as did Wade when he played with Shaq. But LeBron and Wade have the luxury of taking turns and the defense, well they don't know what's coming.

right right, I wasn't saying that's abnormal lol.

I was just asking for an explanation of whats run in the other 46 mins of the game.

[Heat3]

we run the pass the ball to the open guy offense.