Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage

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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#141 » by Inigo_Montoya » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:42 am

lovethewire wrote:I'm completely against gays period, that includes marriage, the adoption of kids, and that they get these rights they don't deserve

Why should your beliefs limit the rights of others?
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#142 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:43 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Get over yourself. Gay is everywhere. What should we do with all the gayness in nature? You know the nature your infallible God made in a matter of days? Should we put gay dogs down? Seek out and destroy gay monkeys? We should obviously do something to dissuade those homo sodomite dolphins from banging each other - it sets a bad example for all the other sea creatures and we can't legitimize it. Screw it, we should just kill all the other animals, because it's like we're condoning these animals' gay behavior. We must stop gay squirrels from spreading their unholy message and butt cheeks.


Animals are not immune to genetic malfunctions. They have defects just like humans do.

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Do you even realize that homosexuality and more the more prevalent bisexuality has been around since the dawning of time. In fact one can make a stronger argument that a lack of homosexual behavior in society is more unnatural than having homosexuals.


Of course homosexuality has been around. So has people born with 3 legs, 3 arms, bipolar disorder, and a list of other defects. I don't see how that changes anything. Genetic abnormalities aren't new.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#143 » by Yuri Vaultin » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:44 am

Froob wrote:Are there really gay animals tho? Like animals do "weird" things but they all have heterosexual drive don't they even though they will do homosexual acts? Someone correct me if I'm off here.

There are. Look it up.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#144 » by MannyRam99 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:44 am

Froob wrote:Are there really gay animals tho? Like animals do "weird" things but they all have heterosexual drive don't they even though they will do homosexual acts? Someone correct me if I'm off here.

Yes.

Animals engaged in same sex pair bonding before humans did. Waaay back in the pre-historic era.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#145 » by Kilo » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:44 am

DeVos probably saw those chick fil a lines and figures he could get more fans in a night in-night out basis if he appealed to be bigots. He could have Palin and Lindsay Graham pose in Magic jerseys for free publicity.

And he has every right to say what he wants, and I have every right not to support his franchise because money he makes he donates to bigot causes.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#146 » by Kilo » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:46 am

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Yuri Vaultin wrote:Get over yourself. Gay is everywhere. What should we do with all the gayness in nature? You know the nature your infallible God made in a matter of days? Should we put gay dogs down? Seek out and destroy gay monkeys? We should obviously do something to dissuade those homo sodomite dolphins from banging each other - it sets a bad example for all the other sea creatures and we can't legitimize it. Screw it, we should just kill all the other animals, because it's like we're condoning these animals' gay behavior. We must stop gay squirrels from spreading their unholy message and butt cheeks.


Animals are not immune to genetic malfunctions. They have defects just like humans do.

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Do you even realize that homosexuality and more the more prevalent bisexuality has been around since the dawning of time. In fact one can make a stronger argument that a lack of homosexual behavior in society is more unnatural than having homosexuals.



Of course homosexuality has been around. So has people born with 3 legs, 3 arms, bipolar disorder, and a list of other defects. I don't see how that changes anything. Genetic abnormalities aren't new.



It's also a genetic malfunction/abnormality to believe the earth is 3000 years old(among other things).
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#147 » by og15 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:46 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
2) Their genetic defect is perverse to most of us. It is wrong. We don't want to legitimize this perverse existence by putting it on equal footing to the real human family nucleus.

Get over yourself. Gay is everywhere. What should we do with all the gayness in nature? You know the nature your infallible God made in a matter of days? Should we put gay dogs down? Seek out and destroy gay monkeys? We should obviously do something to dissuade those homo sodomite dolphins from banging each other - it sets a bad example for all the other sea creatures and we can't legitimize it. Screw it, we should just kill all the other animals, because it's like we're condoning these animals' gay behavior. We must stop gay squirrels from spreading their unholy message and butt cheeks.

Do you even realize that homosexuality and more the more prevalent bisexuality has been around since the dawning of time. In fact one can make a stronger argument that a lack of homosexual behavior in society is more unnatural than having homosexuals.
This is basketball, so I will only delve slightly, but it has never been a determined uniform Christian viewpoint that the interpretation of Genesis is as 24 hour days, though that is the current general perception, so just be aware of that :wink:

I don't know StrenghtNHonor's life views, but it is not a proper flow to take his statements and seemingly expand it to any and all who would have a religious based worldview.

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og15 wrote:A lot of gay people's attraction isn't just of a sexual nature, for some, the sexual attraction is not even a big thing. For some it is an emotional attraction that spurs their orientation. Again, that's why there's no determined "reason" why one is gay, but there are multiple influencing factors with both nature and nurture playing a part.


Sexual attraction has to be the biggest factor, though. Because if it was just emotional, they would be able to fall in love with a woman. The fact they differentiate specifically between the genders, means that their brains messed up during development and are attracted to the wrong gender.
I don't do research on this, so I can't give your answers, but I didn't mean to imply only emotional, but I'm saying that the attraction isn't purely physical / sexual for all gay people. There are dynamics related to the expression of their attraction. That's about as much as I know.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#148 » by MannyRam99 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:46 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
Yuri Vaultin wrote:Get over yourself. Gay is everywhere. What should we do with all the gayness in nature? You know the nature your infallible God made in a matter of days? Should we put gay dogs down? Seek out and destroy gay monkeys? We should obviously do something to dissuade those homo sodomite dolphins from banging each other - it sets a bad example for all the other sea creatures and we can't legitimize it. Screw it, we should just kill all the other animals, because it's like we're condoning these animals' gay behavior. We must stop gay squirrels from spreading their unholy message and butt cheeks.


Animals are not immune to genetic malfunctions. They have defects just like humans do.

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Do you even realize that homosexuality and more the more prevalent bisexuality has been around since the dawning of time. In fact one can make a stronger argument that a lack of homosexual behavior in society is more unnatural than having homosexuals.


Of course homosexuality has been around. So has people born with 3 legs, 3 arms, bipolar disorder, and a list of other defects. I don't see how that changes anything. Genetic abnormalities aren't new.
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you're trolling in a freaking gay rights thread. Good god. You're amazing.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#149 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:46 am

Froob wrote:Are there really gay animals tho? Like animals do "weird" things but they all have heterosexual drive don't they even though they will do homosexual acts? Someone correct me if I'm off here.


Animals are not immune to genetic malfunctions either. So if humans have homosexuality, I'm sure animals will.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#150 » by Felixano » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:47 am

And being anti-gay marriage isn't just about religion. Stop trying to act like religious people are primitive or "archaic" (I've seen this term used several times in this thread) because they don't support gay marriage. Even scientific and statistical evidence points towards it not being a moral or ethical thing to allow. Just have a look at the numbers from this study:

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THIRTY-NINE percent of children of lesbian parents identified as at least partially gay, compared to just 10% of children with normal parenting. But of course, homosexuality is genetic right? I mean obviously the lesbian parents passed down their gay genes via twitter or facebook to their adopted child. :roll: Give me a damn break.

Also over 30% have been raped, and over 1 in 5 was sexually harassed by their gay parents or some other adults. I'm sure hate crimes factor into that a little bit, but if that number doesn't affect you in anyway then you are delusional. Period.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#151 » by christian72589 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:47 am

Yeah, DeVos is scum for donating to a cause with HIS money that he believes in.

It should be a crime to have religious values and foundation.... shoot, Christianity should be banned in the US but anything else is ok (because, you know, we don't want to offend anyone)

If you believe in God, you MUST me an idiot and a homophobic individual and MUST BE STOPPED!!

Expansion of civil unions is NOT enough! We MUST call it MARRIAGE! YEAH!....

Now let's listen to and support all of our music advocating murder, rape and drug use!!!

Let's support professional athletes that beat women and have history of sexual violence!!

YEAH!!

Anyone who disagrees with us is an IDIOT but we're superior because, well, we insist that we are!

hahaha you guys are jokers, really.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#152 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:47 am

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you're trolling in a freaking gay rights thread. Good god. You're amazing.


Ugh, we are having a discussion with our opinions. Don't call mine "trolling". A lot of people agree with me.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#153 » by Felixano » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:50 am

christian72589 wrote:Yeah, DeVos is scum for donating to a cause with HIS money that he believes in.

It should be a crime to have religious values and foundation.... shoot, Christianity should be banned in the US but anything else is ok (because, you know, we don't want to offend anyone)

If you believe in God, you MUST me an idiot and a homophobic individual and MUST BE STOPPED!!

Expansion of civil unions is NOT enough! We MUST call it MARRIAGE! YEAH!....

Now let's listen to and support all of our music advocating murder, **** and drug use!!!

Let's support professional athletes that beat women and have history of sexual violence!!

YEAH!!

Anyone who disagrees with us is an IDIOT but we're superior because, well, we insist that we are!

hahaha you guys are jokers, really.


Hey you forgot to mention that all of us are still living in 2000 BC with our archaic values and lack of comprehension of how the world works nowadays. :lol:

Wholeheartedly agree with your point in that post sir.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#154 » by L3GEND4RY » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:50 am

MannyRam99 wrote:
TylerTheDebater wrote:
It's not okay to oppose gay marriage.

Why isn't okay ? Do you know what the foundation of wedlock is ?

I support gays but marriage is touchy issue, its not black and white.


Yeah I agree with the last part pretty much. It is what it is. There's plenty of people on both sides of this controversial issue.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#155 » by MannyRam99 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:51 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
MannyRam99 wrote:
you're trolling in a freaking gay rights thread. Good god. You're amazing.


Ugh, we are having a discussion with our opinions. Don't call mine "trolling". A lot of people agree with me.

Ok nvm, you're dead serious about the genetic malfunction theory :o

my mistake. :oops:
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Post#156 » by Rallyks » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:52 am

I'm guessing a few of these posters also frequent stormfront.org
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Post#157 » by qm22 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:52 am

I thought an NBA owner would be more cautious. I definitely would not support the Magic commercially in any avenue, and given the owner they have I think their Dwight situation is quite deserved. I hope he leaves for nothing and their franchise value falls substantially.

Heterosexuals who want to regulate the sexuality of other people have some profound mental issues. If you are for regulating the consensual sex of other people out of arbitrary or religious morality, you are perverse. What kind of...freak... is not satisfied to have the type of sex and type of life-partner of their choosing, but wants to determine it for other people, it is some really headache inducing sociopath behavior.

Regulating the freedom, even to the degree of intimate sexual activity of other citizens is what is being advocated by anti-gay marriage people. No religion owns marriage, let alone has such a hold on it that the legal status endowed by marriage contracts being extended to gays can be claim to be discriminated against. US law is not religious law, what a new concept. If you desire that, feel free to seek it in Saudi Arabia.

But there is little point in making these points to the opposing side when they are firmly committed to being the forever unadaptable segment of society that gets left in the dust. The thing that surprises me is why those against gay marriage exert energy on the topic when there are serious problems in the world, and why they spend so much thought and argument on homosexuals when it seems to me that heterosexuals would have no interest in the topic. It is just like how many of the most adamant gay-marriage Republican politicians later end up in the papers for having had numerous gay affairs...
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Post#158 » by peja drobnjak » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:53 am

same sex marriage and identity politics in general are a spectacular distraction from the rich **** us all over
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Post#159 » by Mobat » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:54 am

christian72589 wrote:Yeah, DeVos is scum for donating to a cause with HIS money that he believes in.

It should be a crime to have religious values and foundation.... shoot, Christianity should be banned in the US but anything else is ok (because, you know, we don't want to offend anyone)

If you believe in God, you MUST me an idiot and a homophobic individual and MUST BE STOPPED!!

Expansion of civil unions is NOT enough! We MUST call it MARRIAGE! YEAH!....

Now let's listen to and support all of our music advocating murder, **** and drug use!!!

Let's support professional athletes that beat women and have history of sexual violence!!

YEAH!!

Anyone who disagrees with us is an IDIOT but we're superior because, well, we insist that we are!

hahaha you guys are jokers, really.


I think most people just don't advocate going against gay marriage because, seriously, why would you give a **** if some gay couple decided to get married? What does it change for you, and why do you feel you can strip those rights away from those people?
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Post#160 » by Game Show » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:56 am

Religious and race prejudice used to be rationalized, too

Imagine the uproar if people openly said "I oppose muslim marriage" or "I oppose hispanic marriage" nowadays. Discrimination against homosexuals is simply, and sadly, acceptable in today's society. It's only a matter of time for sexual orientation tolerance to develop, but it can't come soon enough

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