Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets

[Paradise]

Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

James Harden, welcome to RealGM. Pleasure to have you here.

[zronv7]

anybody got a video of harden yelling at lin?

[APacoJ]

This isn't bullying. People are becoming so sensitive lately. I don't really know my opinion in the incognito situation, but in no way is this bullying. This is just 2 immature "stars" flipping **** on another player rather than taking any responsibility themselves. Maybe it's bad karma for Harden tying to flop his way to victory every game...

[Kabookalu]

anybody got a video of harden yelling at lin?

How would you even be able to tell he's yelling at him with the beard covering everything?

[Grammer Nazi]

Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

You are a terrible poster.

[bklynstoops]

are you people serious about this?

[mopper8]

I wouldn't say he is being bullied, but probably scapegoated. Not sure I'd consider those the same thing. Haven't really thought it through enough.

That being said, thinking about the Dolphins/Incognito/Martin ordeal this morning, I came to the following conclusions: you shouldn't expect the average NFL player to be an intelligent and sophisticated expert on group/team dynamics, nor should you expect him to be particularly empathetic. But you should expect those things from coaches, GMs, and the handful of NFL players who end being team captains or on the team's "leadership council" whatever the hell that is. The fact that Incognito was on that council, that the GM was telling Martin to punch Incognito, etc., all point to the Dolphins coaches and GMs who are just not good at that stuff. And that's an important part of putting a team together.

I didn't take that thought further to "what coaches and GMs in the NBA are weak in these areas?" but now I am, and it would actually be unsurprising that Morey wouldn't be great in those areas. I love advanced stats but being a pure numbers guy almost by definition looks past interpersonal dynamics. Looking at that roster, there is a serious dearth of vet leaders. Makes sense that a guy like Morey would totally ignore that aspect of team building, and you'd end up with this sort of dysfunction.

[Hahn]

He's definitely not being "bullied", but he's being taken advantage of for being such a nice guy.

[NOODLESTYLE]

I've read through some of the comments, but I don't want to go through 10 pages so if this is cover, my apologies.





Is it me, or is Steve Nash holding on to Lin and if that is the case, shouldn't there have been a foul call on Nash? Having said that, I await as Laker fans will want to flame me for even suggesting it.

In addition,

can we get some love for Steve Blake, who has been criticized in the past about choking in clutch situations and D'Antoni helping to setup that last play? or is that too much?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVOm2R1lq58[/youtube]

[CablexDeadpool]

But he didn't screw up. And where's the yelling at Harden for wasting possessions by dribbling out the clock or not playing any defense, for Parsons throwing an ill-advised pass to the worst free shooter on the court, to Beverly for playing like crap on offense and for Howard for still being a completely pathetic free shooter. It seems pretty one-sided this whole blame game.

Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap.

James Harden avg 26 points a damn game, you don't take one of the last shots and it was that bad.

And James Harden was the one who brought them back in the first place.

Then Jeremy Lin couldn't get around the screen and Howard was late to help and Lin was clapping his hands at Howard.

James Harden and Howard are the stars and Jeremy Lin isn't. In Basketball there is a hierarchy. Just like Mario Chalmers is the Miami's Big 3 whipping boy, Jeremy Lin is probably gonna end up the James Harden and Howard's whipping boy.

Give the ball to Harden, cover up his defensive mistakes and I don't know what the problem is, everybody was loving him last year when he was crap

[Woodsanity]

Someone needs to be a scapegoat. Can't be diva Dwight or I don't play a lick of D Harden. No way will they bully Parsons so it has to be Lin.

Its like Lin has become the Chalmers of the Rockets. The personal punching bag except at least when it comes to Chalmers the Heat players are joking around and Chalmers actually gets credit for doing well.

[Vides990]

Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

Seriously, the Lin Fan boys are crazy. First they can't grasp him coming off the bench is a better role for him vs starting, and now when he screws up and is informed of it, hes getting bullied. The excuses never end.

[KungFuJoe]

But he didn't screw up. And where's the yelling at Harden for wasting possessions by dribbling out the clock or not playing any defense, for Parsons throwing an ill-advised pass to the worst free shooter on the court, to Beverly for playing like crap on offense and for Howard for still being a completely pathetic free shooter. It seems pretty one-sided this whole blame game.

Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap.

James Harden avg 26 points a damn game, you don't take one of the last shots and it was that bad.

And James Harden was the one who brought them back in the first place.

Then Jeremy Lin couldn't get around the screen and Howard was let to help and Lin was clapping his hands at Howard.

James Harden and Howard are the stars and Jeremy Lin isn't. In Basketball there is a hierarchy. Just like Mario Chalmers is the Miami's Big 3 whipping boy, Jeremy Lin is probably gonna end up the James Harden and Howard's whipping boy.

Give the ball to Harden, cover up his defensive mistakes and I don't know what the problem is, everybody was loving him last year when he was crap

This might be the worst post I've ever read.

You probably didn't even watch the game.

LIN brought Houston back...scored 8 points in their comeback run.

And Harden didn't DEMAND the ball on that possession...he just walked away like a whiney brat. THAT is your leader?

[Hahn]

Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

Seriously, the Lin Fan boys are crazy. First they can't grasp him coming off the bench is a better role for him vs starting, and now when he screws up and is informed of it, hes getting bullied. The excuses never end.

How exactly did Lin screw up ?

[Woodsanity]

Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

Seriously, the Lin Fan boys are crazy. First they can't grasp him coming off the bench is a better role for him vs starting, and now when he screws up and is informed of it, hes getting bullied. The excuses never end.

Except he didn't screw up on anything lmao. There was no time left on the shot clock and he had to throw a hail mary in. If anyone should be blamed it should be Dwight and Harden. Harden for his pitiful defense which gave the Lakers many easy buckets and for freezing out his teammates. Dwight for missing so many Fts and for that defensive error towards the end.

[politm]

But he didn't screw up. And where's the yelling at Harden for wasting possessions by dribbling out the clock or not playing any defense, for Parsons throwing an ill-advised pass to the worst free shooter on the court, to Beverly for playing like crap on offense and for Howard for still being a completely pathetic free shooter. It seems pretty one-sided this whole blame game.

Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap

wat ?

[therealbig3]

But he didn't screw up. And where's the yelling at Harden for wasting possessions by dribbling out the clock or not playing any defense, for Parsons throwing an ill-advised pass to the worst free shooter on the court, to Beverly for playing like crap on offense and for Howard for still being a completely pathetic free shooter. It seems pretty one-sided this whole blame game.

Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap.

James Harden avg 26 points a damn game, you don't take one of the last shots and it was that bad.

And James Harden was the one who brought them back in the first place.

Then Jeremy Lin couldn't get around the screen and Howard was late to help and Lin was clapping his hands at Howard.

James Harden and Howard are the stars and Jeremy Lin isn't. In Basketball there is a hierarchy. Just like Mario Chalmers is the Miami's Big 3 whipping boy, Jeremy Lin is probably gonna end up the James Harden and Howard's whipping boy.

Give the ball to Harden, cover up his defensive mistakes and I don't know what the problem is, everybody was loving him last year when he was crap

Wow, you must be the biggest Harden apologist I've ever seen. And that's saying something.

Harden REFUSED to be a part of the play, because it wasn't an ISO for him. He just stood there. Predictably, when only 4 guys are trying to run a play (really, only 3, since Howard was such a liability at the line, that he was never going to be a part of the play anyway), the play breaks down. Shot clock was down to like 2 or 3 seconds, and Lin was given the ball to bail them out. What was Harden doing? Was he demanding the ball and asking for the bailout shot? No, he just stood there and watched everything unfold. Then he has the nerve to yell at Lin for taking that shot.

Not to mention, Harden wouldn't have taken the shot anyway...he would have probably passed it to someone else to take the bailout shot.

Lin was also screened off (aka fouled) by Nash on that play, and Gasol screened Beverley...meaning Howard was supposed to switch onto Blake. He didn't do it in time, and Blake hit the 3. That was Howard's fault.

Chalmers gets yelled at, because he's a moron that makes a lot of bad decisions. He gets justifiably chewed out for that. LeBron or Wade don't make bad plays, and then turn around and yell at Chalmers, the way that Harden and Howard did at Lin.

Lin didn't make mistakes in this situation...it seems to me that the two stars on the team are divas that don't want to take blame, so they point their finger at the one guy that was actually doing the right thing. And Harden and Howard didn't even play all that well, it's not like they were carrying the team and should get some slack. They were horrible, and they made dumb decisions. Why should they get the pass, and why should Lin get the blame, when he didn't even do anything wrong?

[CablexDeadpool]

This might be the worst post I've ever read.

You probably didn't even watch the game.

LIN brought Houston back...scored 8 points in their comeback run.

And Harden didn't DEMAND the ball on that possession...he just walked away like a whiney brat. THAT is your leader?

Uh no...

In the third and 4th quarter combined Harden accounted for 15 points just on scoring alone. James Harden brought the Rockets back. and played 44 mins.

Lin didn't bring the Rockets back. Jeremy Lin only had 16 points and yeah about 6 to 8 of those points came in the second half but Harden was driving that comeback boat.

And so what if James Harden had an attitude, idk if anybody watches the Miami Heat but D-Wade falls all over the ground, yells at the refs, commit turnovers, and nobody yells at D-Wade. Everybody yells at Chalmers, WHY!

BECAUSE DWADE IS THE FREAKING STAR AND CHALMERS ISN'T.

This whole Harden backlash is because James Harden doesn't play defense and oh my god he isn't a nice guy. When everybody was slobbing on Harden, getting his DNA all over their mouth and when anybody criticized him.

"What, it's James Harden, he is playing Basketball the right way, he is shooting 3s and driving and getting to the line. He's a good passer...blah blah blah blah Harden slurp. James Harden number 1 SG in the league."

Then he supposedly yells at Lin and the Rockets have a breakdown in the 8th or whatever game in the season.

"He doesn't play defense. He is such a diva. All he does is iso. Blah blah blah....Harden hate..."

Whoopty freaking do. James Harden put up 15 points and brought them back, you give the ball to Harden and you die with him.

[Nikos Beard]

Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap.

James Harden avg 26 points a damn game, you don't take one of the last shots and it was that bad.

And James Harden was the one who brought them back in the first place.

Then Jeremy Lin couldn't get around the screen and Howard was late to help and Lin was clapping his hands at Howard.

James Harden and Howard are the stars and Jeremy Lin isn't. In Basketball there is a hierarchy. Just like Mario Chalmers is the Miami's Big 3 whipping boy, Jeremy Lin is probably gonna end up the James Harden and Howard's whipping boy.

Give the ball to Harden, cover up his defensive mistakes and I don't know what the problem is, everybody was loving him last year when he was crap

Did you watch the game?

[JF5]

Bullying is being thrown out too liberally recently.

Its more like he's the scapegoat here. Which he should not be because he was picked by TWO players. So there is no way in hell he should get the blame for it.