Chad Ford changing and editing his draft boards for past years?!

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Re: "ESPN's Chad Ford Has Been Retroactively Editing Draft Boards For Years" 

Post#141 » by Cycklops » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:00 pm

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HotelVitale wrote: Also, to repeat again: the big board rankings are NOT his own rankings of the best players. Officially they're an estimate of how high players' stocks are in the eyes of GMs and scouts around the league. I keep up with them and a half dozen other pre-draft rankings every year, and I've never considered them the opinion of Chad Ford and he doesn't really present them that way. (That said, even though the rankings aren't technically his, I guess it's plausible he would have some secondary motives for making him look better--so he can talk trash with Simmons, so he can claim some more authority on the draft, etc.)

This is like me going in to work and changing my stock picks from last week, or last month, or last year to make them look better on paper. That still doesn't change the fact that I had to get that the information I gave out wasn't great in the first place, nor does it make me credible. In fact, it makes me a liar, a cheater and a fraud. It also hurts the credibility of my employer.


No it's like you writing a blog called, 'Here I Will Report What Other Investors Think about Stocks Now,' and then changing your reports around after a year. It's still suspicious--and make him look like a loser--but since he's officially just reporting what other people are saying about draft buzz, he has enough of an out not to be fired.

People have been saying that Chad has a Mock Draft, which represents what he hears from his sources about who might get drafted where, and a "Top 100," where he gives his own opinion of the best players available. The one that was edited was the Top 100.
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Re: "ESPN's Chad Ford Has Been Retroactively Editing Draft Boards For Years" 

Post#142 » by HotelVitale » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Cycklops wrote:
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I_Socrates wrote:This is like me going in to work and changing my stock picks from last week, or last month, or last year to make them look better on paper. That still doesn't change the fact that I had to get that the information I gave out wasn't great in the first place, nor does it make me credible. In fact, it makes me a liar, a cheater and a fraud. It also hurts the credibility of my employer.

No it's like you writing a blog called, 'Here I Will Report What Other Investors Think about Stocks Now,' and then changing your reports around after a year. It's still suspicious--and make him look like a loser--but since he's officially just reporting what other people are saying about draft buzz, he has enough of an out not to be fired.

People have been saying that Chad has a Mock Draft, which represents what he hears from his sources about who might get drafted where, and a "Top 100," where he gives his own opinion of the best players available. The one that was edited was the Top 100.


Nope, the top 100 and the Big Board have the same info: one of them just has 100 players and is on its own page, while the other has 10 and is permanently embedded on the espn NBA Draft front page. His 'mock drafts' are standard pick-by-pick mocks that he publishes as posts/articles in the months before the draft. I've never understood any of those 3 to represent Ford's personal take on who the best players are.

Frankly, Ford never seems to have the spine or presence to say what he personally thinks. He's blandly enthusiastic about every prospect--so and so has long arms, great upside, been impressive in conference play--and you never get the sense that he wants to take a risk or have his own voice. I've always thought that he was sort of hiding behind his reporters' goggles.

Again, I wouldn't be upset to see him go--he's a pretty weak analyst whose only asset is his network--but I feel like this isn't the right reason. If Zach Lowe or Kevin Pelton did this and was fired for it, I'd be upset about it.
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Re: "ESPN's Chad Ford Has Been Retroactively Editing Draft Boards For Years" 

Post#143 » by Cycklops » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:42 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Cycklops wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:No it's like you writing a blog called, 'Here I Will Report What Other Investors Think about Stocks Now,' and then changing your reports around after a year. It's still suspicious--and make him look like a loser--but since he's officially just reporting what other people are saying about draft buzz, he has enough of an out not to be fired.

People have been saying that Chad has a Mock Draft, which represents what he hears from his sources about who might get drafted where, and a "Top 100," where he gives his own opinion of the best players available. The one that was edited was the Top 100.


Nope, the top 100 and the Big Board have the same info: one of them just has 100 players and is on its own page, while the other has 10 and is permanently embedded on the espn NBA Draft front page. His 'mock drafts' are standard pick-by-pick mocks that he publishes as posts/articles in the months before the draft. I've never understood any of those 3 to represent Ford's personal take on who the best players are.

Frankly, Ford never seems to have the spine or presence to say what he personally thinks. He's blandly enthusiastic about every prospect--so and so has long arms, great upside, been impressive in conference play--and you never get the sense that he wants to take a risk or have his own voice. I've always thought that he was sort of hiding behind his reporters' goggles.

Again, I wouldn't be upset to see him go--he's a pretty weak analyst whose only asset is his network--but I feel like this isn't the right reason. If Zach Lowe or Kevin Pelton did this and was fired for it, I'd be upset about it.

Well you should post that on Reddit then, because a lot of the discussion regarding the ethics of it centers around it being the Top 100 and not just a Mock.

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