WCF: P3 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2

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Who wins the series?

Warriors in 5
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Warriors in 6
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Warriors in 7
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Rockets in 7
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Rockets in 6
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Post#141 » by The411 » Mon May 21, 2018 5:48 pm

NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:Whats with the hate on the showboating or this shimmy? I personally love it. Kobe and jason terry had the jet wings after a 3, MJ with the tongue, the mailman with his arm behind the back, vince carter with the fists after a dunk, darius miles with the hands against the head, melo and his dumb thing he does after a 3, wes matthews with the bow and arrow after a 3 and james harden with his stolen Lil B chef dance. There are many more. People are crying over the steph shimmy? Is it because they are always winning?



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Post#142 » by G35 » Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Its just a shame that not one damn team is currently constructed to even give the Warriors a 7 game series



The Cavaliers have had four years to do that. In 2015 if you said Lebron, Kyrie, Kevin Love would be on the same team, they would have said dynasty. If you said that Cleveland would have six players that are getting paid 10mill+ and three players that are getting paid $20mill+.

Its not like Golden State have landed multiple top FA's like is always theorized every year, where teams are speculated to sign to max FA's. Golden State only made one major FA signing and that broke the league and that was a once in a lifetime situation. The Warriors must be that far ahead of everyone else, because free agents now are more strategic and willing to move teams than ever before......
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Post#143 » by xfactor » Mon May 21, 2018 5:57 pm

NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:Whats with the hate on the showboating or this shimmy? I personally love it. Kobe and jason terry had the jet wings after a 3, MJ with the tongue, the mailman with his arm behind the back, vince carter with the fists after a dunk, darius miles with the hands against the head, melo and his dumb thing he does after a 3, wes matthews with the bow and arrow after a 3 and james harden with his stolen Lil B chef dance. There are many more. People are crying over the steph shimmy? Is it because they are always winning?


Excellent list.

I'd add Kobe's big ball dance as well. One of my favorites.

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Post#144 » by xfactor » Mon May 21, 2018 6:02 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Its just a shame that not one damn team is currently constructed to even give the Warriors a 7 game series


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Post#145 » by KHRICH » Mon May 21, 2018 6:07 pm

jonjames wrote:Warriors need to win game 4. If they lose that game then the Rockets have a chance of winning the series. If Warriors win game 4 then they win the series. If Rockets win game 4 then the winner of game 5 wins the series imo.

I seen harden look defeated I dont know about that I hope it isnt over though.
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Post#146 » by bmurph128 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:15 pm

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That's why 2011 did wonders for him. He finally let this trash go and limited dancing to pregame, post game etc.


Nothing like getting old and less fun. That’s why Ronaldo’s my favorite athlete. Just as old as LeBron, just as dominant, and he still has all the joy of a 14-year old kid whenever he scores a big goal.



There is actually time to celebrate goals in soccer and hockey. Time to celebrate Touchdowns in football.

There is time to celebrate big shots in NBA games - buzzer beaters or a shot that makes another team call timeout.
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Post#147 » by ken6199 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Its just a shame that not one damn team is currently constructed to even give the Warriors a 7 game series


Bigger challenge means bigger reward. That's why I do not understand this "xxx ruined the league" thing. Well, instead of complaining, do something about it. Give it your best shot. If you pull it off, that becomes a lifetime memory of achievement. Beating this Warriors team (in WCF) certainly serves as much weight in my heart as either of those Hakeem's championships. "We did the impossible" is the mentality.

You can suck, tank, rebuild, or you can gamble big. To me personally, I am glad our GM chose the latter. He didn't chicken out, "oh they will be good for another 3-4 years, lets just tank, accumulate assets, and wait for our turn". He knows superstars like Harden don't come to Houston every other year, so if you are lucky to have one, go all in, make the best out of it, even it means you can still end up winning nothing AND pay for the price for this gamble for the next half decade of being mediocre (ie going back to those Kevin Martin days).

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Post#148 » by ken6199 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:48 pm

DubTheVanDamage wrote:Game 3 was so ugly because the Rockets bench rolled over and died in garbage time -- otherwise, Game 2 was actually worse as the Warriors were put away earlier.

If the Rockets could have finished at the rim in Game 3 (admittedly most shots were contested), the game never would have gotten out of hand.

The Rockets simply have to shoot well to win, they cannot leave points at the rim and at the line. Their role players have to be a threat from the three point line.

If the Rockets win Game 4, they are back in the driver's seat. I'm amazed so many people are ignoring that. Looking forward to Tue.


Game 3 was pretty much on the same scale as game 2. Game 2 was still a competitive game till that Eric Gordon desperate heave on Draymond, but credit to GS bench they didn't "roll over" in 4th quarter to keep the margin around 20.

Floopy said this could be one of those weird series every every game is a blowout, I can certainly see that. I mean, for two teams with this offensive power, I wouldn't even call a 20pt game a blowout - because either team are capable of having that red hot stretch to blow the game away. GS being favored is mainly on KD being the constant + Curry and Klay as the wild cards, while Harden/CP/Gordon are all sort of wild cards in terms of performance stability over multiple games, and having such a constant is so important in the playoffs that it offsets all the slim advantages Houston seemingly have in depth (short rotation, and Luc unplayable), center position (reduced Capela due to mismatch), and HCA (it's just one game). GS's ability to switch to either way on offense, between iso and motion, is also a big plus.

If they don't take this 41pt blowout on the chin and bounce back on Tuesday night, I am ready to embrace another loss. 3 years ago we got blown out in LAC by a combined 60 points in game 3 and 4, seems like our tradition... Can still hope for another '16 GS-OKC, '15 HOU-LAC home team comeback, protect gm 5, steal gm 6 with some miraculous performance (Klay 11 threes, Josh the Goat Smith), and go do or die in gm 7.
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Post#149 » by Outside » Mon May 21, 2018 7:36 pm

NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:Whats with the hate on the showboating or this shimmy? I personally love it. Kobe and jason terry had the jet wings after a 3, MJ with the tongue, the mailman with his arm behind the back, vince carter with the fists after a dunk, darius miles with the hands against the head, melo and his dumb thing he does after a 3, wes matthews with the bow and arrow after a 3 and james harden with his stolen Lil B chef dance. There are many more. People are crying over the steph shimmy? Is it because they are always winning?

When the Warriors are playing at their best, they play with joy. That is a stated objective of Kerr's. Not just passion or fire or energy, but an exhilarating joy at being part of something so fantastically fun. It's not an angry expression of dominance over an opponent, but more like the rush a kayaker feels after navigating the toughest rapids or a skier after nailing the toughest course, where they became one with water or the hill. Maybe it's sort of a zen thing, where the opponent becomes incidental and it's about achieving the peak of play as a team, where it's orders of magnitude more fulfilling to do together as a team than it is to do well individually.

I see Steph's celebrations as the epitome of that. It's not showing up the opponent, it's an expression of the exhilarating fun of finding that level of play. Steph clearly sets the tone for it in his play, he reaches the highest level of individual play that leads to peak team play, and he is their emotional leader in those moments. Someone who doesn't want him to let that out when he's in that moment is like someone who wants to take the fun out of a bag of candy at Halloween.
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Post#150 » by Iguodaladon » Mon May 21, 2018 7:47 pm

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NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:Whats with the hate on the showboating or this shimmy? I personally love it. Kobe and jason terry had the jet wings after a 3, MJ with the tongue, the mailman with his arm behind the back, vince carter with the fists after a dunk, darius miles with the hands against the head, melo and his dumb thing he does after a 3, wes matthews with the bow and arrow after a 3 and james harden with his stolen Lil B chef dance. There are many more. People are crying over the steph shimmy? Is it because they are always winning?


Excellent list.

I'd add Kobe's big ball dance as well. One of my favorites.

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Post#151 » by Hoopstar23 » Mon May 21, 2018 7:56 pm

The iggy injury could be big for Houston

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Post#152 » by bmurph128 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 pm

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John Murdoch wrote:Its just a shame that not one damn team is currently constructed to even give the Warriors a 7 game series


Bigger challenge means bigger reward. That's why I do not understand this "xxx ruined the league" thing. Well, instead of complaining, do something about it. Give it your best shot. If you pull it off, that becomes a lifetime memory of achievement. Beating this Warriors team (in WCF) certainly serves as much weight in my heart as either of those Hakeem's championships. "We did the impossible" is the mentality.

You can suck, tank, rebuild, or you can gamble big. To me personally, I am glad our GM chose the latter. He didn't chicken out, "oh they will be good for another 3-4 years, lets just tank, accumulate assets, and wait for our turn". He knows superstars like Harden don't come to Houston every other year, so if you are lucky to have one, go all in, make the best out of it, even it means you can still end up winning nothing AND pay for the price for this gamble for the next half decade of being mediocre (ie going back to those Kevin Martin days).

But that's just me.



While I agree with this (I felt the Cavs were playing with house money in last years finals), it can't be much fun for NBA fans whose teams are not involved.

And those are the fans the league wants watching these games. The Warriors have only been challenged one time in the past four years, and by regular season standards, this is the best team the Warriors have played. I think that's why ratings are doing well.

But if the Warriors finish this in 5 games with four double digit wins, there doesn't appear to be much hope on the horizon. That would mean that the only challenger the Warriors faced in four year in the West was dismantled by them recruiting the best player from that team.
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Post#153 » by iggymcfrack » Mon May 21, 2018 8:19 pm

Hoopstar23 wrote:The iggy injury could be big for Houston

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Wow, that could be huge just because they’re so thin from 1-4 already. They’ll obviously start Curry/Klay/KD/Dray/Looney. Then they’ve got Livingston, Nick Young, and a bunch of big guys off the bench. There’s nobody there you really wanna give minutes to.
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Post#154 » by Warchant » Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 pm

Hoopstar23 wrote:The iggy injury could be big for Houston

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I saw he's doubtful for game 4...is it serious or just some swelling?
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Post#155 » by Hoopstar23 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:22 pm

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Hoopstar23 wrote:The iggy injury could be big for Houston

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I saw he's doubtful for game 4...is it serious or just some swelling?


The knee contusion got worse overnight and he didn't practice today...

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Post#156 » by iggymcfrack » Mon May 21, 2018 8:24 pm

Looks like we’ve got a series again. As long as the officiating’s not as completely one-sided as it was last game, I really think the Rockets take Game 4.
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Post#157 » by John Murdoch » Mon May 21, 2018 8:40 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:Looks like we’ve got a series again. As long as the officiating’s not as completely one-sided as it was last game, I really think the Rockets take Game 4.
I dont see it. Igoudala out helps but lets see
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Post#158 » by xfactor » Mon May 21, 2018 8:40 pm

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NxtGr8MagicCntr wrote:Whats with the hate on the showboating or this shimmy? I personally love it. Kobe and jason terry had the jet wings after a 3, MJ with the tongue, the mailman with his arm behind the back, vince carter with the fists after a dunk, darius miles with the hands against the head, melo and his dumb thing he does after a 3, wes matthews with the bow and arrow after a 3 and james harden with his stolen Lil B chef dance. There are many more. People are crying over the steph shimmy? Is it because they are always winning?


Excellent list.

I'd add Kobe's big ball dance as well. One of my favorites.

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I think you're right. And Kobe's 'adaptation' made it more popular.
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Post#159 » by Heej » Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 pm

As I've always said, the only thing that can defeat the Warriors is injury. And now we finally have a series. Dis gun b good
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