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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#141 » by bargnanimvp » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:53 am

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IG2 wrote:Obviously, the other 29 teams lost because they had 0 shot at winning a championship, but I don't think GS won themselves.

That is their tragedy to me. They are undoubtedly the GOAT team, but there's an artificiality to how they achieved that status - adding top 3 player to a 73-9 roster - that will always preclude them for ever being a 'celebrated' team or even a team that will get properly placed in history. They are so much better than everybody else that their accomplishments simply feel hollow. GS' celebrations itself the last 2 seasons says it all. No genuine emotion or authenticity to it. It's all so meh. Because it's all so easy. There's zero doubt in my mind they would gladly trade these last 2 rings for one in 2016. Now that would've actually meant something. And nothing will change next season when they cruise to 3 in a row. The world will still react to it with a 'meh'.

Which is why I've always said nobody won with KD's move. GS didn't. KD most certainly didn't - 0 legacy boost, 0 respect gained and he remains the poster child for anti-competitiveness. Did anybody else on GS get any boost from the last 2 seasons? I certainly can't see one. And it's so sad. A team and it's stars' legacy is so tied to them winning it all. We can't wait to discuss how winning a championship impacts their place in history. With this team, there's nothing to discuss. Nothing to talk about. It's ho-hum, the most talented 2-way team ever won it all again, now let's all go to sleep.



And they still needed the refs to bail them out.
Usually after 2-3 championships you start to respect the teams you dislike. There is no respect here. They get more hatable.
Refs ruined this series in a 2006 level. In 2007 a ref went to jail. Stay tuned.

What?

The only game that looked fixed was the refs trying to force a cavs win in game 3.

Lay off the crack pipe my man.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#142 » by king_james_vers » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:53 am

Self-immolation.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#143 » by cpower » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:54 am

CodeBreaker wrote:Lead a team to a championship as the first option

not his team though
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#144 » by LordBaldric » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:54 am

Humans by nature love things that were hard won. These GSW rings are the opposite of that.
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#145 » by bargnanimvp » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:54 am

316Hornets wrote:What's the big deal? It's not like KD took some huge paycut. The Warriors were able to afford him and it lined up nicely for both of them. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

People act like if Lebron's heat could have afforded another star player back then they would have said "nah it's cool we are good enough that would be unfair" and just let the cap go to waste.
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#146 » by pr0wler » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:54 am

The Rockets had 0 chance of winning the championship? Ok...
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#147 » by R-DAWG » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:56 am

bargnanimvp wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
IG2 wrote:Obviously, the other 29 teams lost because they had 0 shot at winning a championship, but I don't think GS won themselves.

That is their tragedy to me. They are undoubtedly the GOAT team, but there's an artificiality to how they achieved that status - adding top 3 player to a 73-9 roster - that will always preclude them for ever being a 'celebrated' team or even a team that will get properly placed in history. They are so much better than everybody else that their accomplishments simply feel hollow. GS' celebrations itself the last 2 seasons says it all. No genuine emotion or authenticity to it. It's all so meh. Because it's all so easy. There's zero doubt in my mind they would gladly trade these last 2 rings for one in 2016. Now that would've actually meant something. And nothing will change next season when they cruise to 3 in a row. The world will still react to it with a 'meh'.

Which is why I've always said nobody won with KD's move. GS didn't. KD most certainly didn't - 0 legacy boost, 0 respect gained and he remains the poster child for anti-competitiveness. Did anybody else on GS get any boost from the last 2 seasons? I certainly can't see one. And it's so sad. A team and it's stars' legacy is so tied to them winning it all. We can't wait to discuss how winning a championship impacts their place in history. With this team, there's nothing to discuss. Nothing to talk about. It's ho-hum, the most talented 2-way team ever won it all again, now let's all go to sleep.



And they still needed the refs to bail them out.
Usually after 2-3 championships you start to respect the teams you dislike. There is no respect here. They get more hatable.
Refs ruined this series in a 2006 level. In 2007 a ref went to jail. Stay tuned.

What?

The only game that looked fixed was the refs trying to force a cavs win in game 3.

Lay off the crack pipe my man.


Did you watch game 7 vs Houston or game 1 vs Cleveland.
The narrative of this series is the overturned call in game 1.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#148 » by 316Hornets » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:56 am

Durant can save his legacy by signing for life to the Warriors for the veteran minimum and retire with 10 rings.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#149 » by Kordic27 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:56 am

jigga_man wrote:Outside of nerds on the realgm general board? lol.

The media will talk about his game 3 finals performance for God knows how long. B2B finals MVP and still under 30? I think his legacy will be fine.


I think that the overwhelming majority of the general public and casual fans will soon forget he joined the great team and will remember he won a ton. Hardcore fans and basketball nerds will think he earned jack and rode coattails. Problem for Durant is that he’s going to be mostly surrounded by hardcore fans and basketball nerds.
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#150 » by JermaineOYea » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:56 am

It's very "meh". It's like playing monopoly, but before the game starts you get slick and take 15 extra 500 dollar bills. I'm GOING to win, but I'm not going to be proud of myself. It's cheap. I could also beat up a baby... like, really kick its ass. But I'm a 6'2 240 pound 30 year old man. I'm bigger than the baby, somewhat stronger too..

But hey, the Warriors can do it with no shame to their game, right?

That's what these finals felt like.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#151 » by Emhoward » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:57 am

I don't think his legacy needs saving, but to play along, he should do what LeBron did. What Lebron did isn't as bad as what KD did, but he still did get a lot of hate for it, and most of that, or a lot of it, was diminished when he brought the Cavs and championship. So if KD went to say, the Wizards, and brought them a ring as a first option, that might do it.
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#152 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:00 am

IG2 wrote:Obviously, the other 29 teams lost because they had 0 shot at winning a championship, but I don't think GS won themselves.

That is their tragedy to me. They are undoubtedly the GOAT team, but there's an artificiality to how they achieved that status - adding top 3 player to a 73-9 roster - that will always preclude them for ever being a 'celebrated' team or even a team that will get properly placed in history. They are so much better than everybody else that their accomplishments simply feel hollow. GS' celebrations itself the last 2 seasons says it all. No genuine emotion or authenticity to it. It's all so meh. Because it's all so easy. There's zero doubt in my mind they would gladly trade these last 2 rings for one in 2016. Now that would've actually meant something. And nothing will change next season when they cruise to 3 in a row. The world will still react to it with a 'meh'.

Which is why I've always said nobody won with KD's move. GS didn't. KD most certainly didn't - 0 legacy boost, 0 respect gained and he remains the poster child for anti-competitiveness. Did anybody else on GS get any boost from the last 2 seasons? I certainly can't see one. And it's so sad. A team and it's stars' legacy is so tied to them winning it all. We can't wait to discuss how winning a championship impacts their place in history. With this team, there's nothing to discuss. Nothing to talk about. It's ho-hum, the most talented 2-way team ever won it all again, now let's all go to sleep.


Bruh. Let it go. They drafted everyone of their core. Then traded for iggy. Their only signing was kd. It’s not like three guys conspired to play together. It’s like they say. If u build it they will come. Let it go. This team is a GOAT team. Losing game seven a few years ago was the best thing to ever happen to them.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#153 » by GYK » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:00 am

2x champ
2x FMVP
MVP
4x scoring champ
9x All-Star
5x 1st All-NBA
2x 2nd All-NBA
Rookie of the Year
14th in MVP shares

He seems fine.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#154 » by jazzfan1971 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:00 am

I think his legacy is actually fine. Why? He's #3 in jersey sales. If he was synonymous with being a cowardly bandwagon jumper folks wouldn't want to have his name on their back.

I'm sure a lot of it is just folks wanting to have a winner's jersey. But, if that was all you wanted you could just as easily be wearing a Curry, Klay, or Green jersey. But, lots of folks are opting for Durant over those guys.

Obviously some number of people dislike him. But, when folks vote with their dollars and the real estate on their back, many of them are choosing to rep Durant. That's indicative of legacy to me more than anything.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#155 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:00 am

Steven1562 wrote:lol "legacy" it's only the fans who care about it. I think Durant will sleep fine with his rings and money.


We're talking about Kevin Durant, they guy that taught Barbara Colangelo how to sign up for twitter.
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Re: Everybody lost with KD's move. 

Post#156 » by bargnanimvp » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:01 am

R-DAWG wrote:
bargnanimvp wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:

And they still needed the refs to bail them out.
Usually after 2-3 championships you start to respect the teams you dislike. There is no respect here. They get more hatable.
Refs ruined this series in a 2006 level. In 2007 a ref went to jail. Stay tuned.

What?

The only game that looked fixed was the refs trying to force a cavs win in game 3.

Lay off the crack pipe my man.


Did you watch game 7 vs Houston or game 1 vs Cleveland.
The narrative of this series is the overturned call in game 1.

WHat happened in game 1? they over turned a WRONG call into a CORRECT call. Bitch about the inbalance in talent all you want but the refs didn't rig anything and if you need that narrative to help you sleep at night you have serious issues here.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#157 » by whocurrz » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:02 am

He never had GOAT potential like Bron who felt he had much to prove. No matter what he’ll still be one of the greatest scorers ever, win some championships and probably enjoy his career and be a top 20 player. Even if he never won a title the way people wanted him to he will have won, had individual accolades and be happy. He’ll probably have a final chapter that CAN improve his legacy but even if he took an easy way to a championship he’ll still be seen as a great player and scorer who isn’t top 10 but probably wouldn’t have been in almost any situation so at least he’s gonna be happy
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#158 » by illmatic24 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:03 am

Durant and his legacy are fine. We know how great of a player he is. But if he really wants to prove something and wants fans to like him again, he needs to lead another team to a championship. Doesn't have to be OKC or Washington or whatever team people have in mind for him. It just needs to be a team that isn't already stacked with all-stars.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#159 » by Free Rider » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:05 am

Honestly all he has to do it stay on the Warriors and keep winning more championships. The truth is history never remembers the details, only the wins and losses. As much as we like to debate what their legacies will be, there’s an entire generation of fans and viewer who will on remember these players for the number of rings they have. If Durant ends his career with 4-5 championships, and 2-3 FMVPs, they’ll probably be people who will view him as his generation’s greatest player because the simple math will be that he won more rings than LeBron. The context won’t matter, it will all just be how many rings you got.
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Re: What can Durant do that would save his legacy? 

Post#160 » by D.Brasco » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:05 am

Steven1562 wrote:lol "legacy" it's only the fans who care about it. I think Durant will sleep fine with his rings and money.


Money is money but rings are tied to legacy.

Robert Horry has 7 rings but not much legacy.

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