Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[TommyPoints]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

I can’t imagine that Philly would actually offer that without an extension promised.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

If that were true I think Pop would be personally taking Kawhi to the airport.


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Probably tell Kawhi, "I'm otw," then have Tony Parker show up in a Smart Car 20 minutes later to give him a ride.
A nice Bill Russell salute on his way out for the Spurs' trouble

[woosah]

One of you trade machine nerds needs to think of the trade machine RGM wet dream that lands Leonard and LBJ in LAL and moves Love to SAS.

You think SAS would want Love if they have LMA? Yeah i need to see this trade.

[bebopdeluxe]

Give up what farm though? Ingram's injury prone and has shown no flash of being anything more than average in his career thus far (neg RPM, sub-15 PER). Kuz is one-dimensional trash putting up numbers on a bad Laker team(Clarkson and Nance Jr for example). They have no decent picks to speak of. And max contract Randle as a sweetener . That's not a farm, that's a death sentence for
the Spurs and only accelerates the process for the franchise to move out of SA. Might as well hold onto Kawhi until the supermax deadline in mid-October.

Seriously.

A Sixers deal with Saric, Covington, Zhaire Smith (who the Spurs were going to draft at 18, and who wore the 2 at TT in homage to Kawhi) and the MIA unrestricted 2021 pick blows that ish Lakers offer out of the water every day that ends in y.

Personally, I would not want to give up all of that, but simply from a standpoint of VALUE, the Lakers deals being thrown out there are STRAIGHT TRASH relative to the Sixers offer I just listed.

Aside from the 2021 pick ( and who knows how that turns out) that deal is Trash. Covington is older than Kawhi and Zhaire Smith and Saric are nothing special, Just role Players. Atleast Kuzma and Ingram have star potential.

Says you.

Covington is an NBA ALL-Defensive Team wing who shot 38% from 3...he is only 27 and signed for reasonable (and eaily tradable down the line) scratch. Saric - by virtually every metric - had a better season than Ingram last year, and while Ingram was home eating Cheetos, Saric put up 27/10/4 in an elimination playoff game on the road.

Lakers homers are absolutely the WORST homers - even worse than Raptors homers (and that says a lot).

[bebopdeluxe]

Seriously.

A Sixers deal with Saric, Covington, Zhaire Smith (who the Spurs were going to draft at 18, and who wore the 2 at TT in homage to Kawhi) and the MIA unrestricted 2021 pick blows that ish Lakers offer out of the water every day that ends in y.

Personally, I would not want to give up all of that, but simply from a standpoint of VALUE, the Lakers deals being thrown out there are STRAIGHT TRASH relative to the Sixers offer I just listed.

Aside from the 2021 pick ( and who knows how that turns out) that deal is Trash. Covington is older than Kawhi and Zhaire Smith and Saric are nothing special, Just role Players. Atleast Kuzma and Ingram have star potential.

Is that that same star potential that Nance Jr and Clarkson had? They're both neg RPM guys with sub 15 PERs. Ingram and Kuz are the pure definition of nothing special...unless you value points per game on lottery teams.

QFT

[Arsenal]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

Who said this? I hope not.

[LakersSoul]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

If Magic sends out Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo, picks plus Deng for Kawhi, he is one dumb mofo.
There is no way the Lakers with LeBron, Kawhi and even a third star can beat HOuston or GSW without depth.
In fact, they will be gutted for an aging LeBron and injury concern Kawhi.
I just cannot believe Magic and Pelinka would bend here.

The decision has to be 2 out of Kuzma, Ingram and Lonzo plus FRP for Kawhi.
Magic has to call LeBron's bluff and make him decide while trying to convince PG to come when FA starts.

[TheNewEra]

Think it would be a mistake to trade Saric. It’s rare to find young guys that can step up and produce as a third option.

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Lakers are definitely striking out this year in FA.

Good thing Magic has one year left.

[DROB27]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

Who said this? I hope not.

The sixers are one of the teams i think Kawhi would resign with .

[DieYoung]

If the Lakers give up any of the young core, that will suck since they really don't need to. Kawhi's health is still in question and Lebron isn't retiring a Laker, so why give up the bright future for potential rentals? Its unnecessary.

If Ingram and Kuzma are so valuable why does LA want to trade them for Kawhi? Those guys are a lot more affordable and under cheaper deals for the next couple years? They're bonfide superstars in the making, right? Why not try to use them to lure Lebron to LA to form the great LBJ/Ingram/Kuzma dynasty.

[AingesBurner]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

If that were true I think Pop would be personally taking Kawhi to the airport.


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Probably tell Kawhi, "I'm otw," then have Tony Parker show up in a Smart Car 20 minutes later to give him a ride.
A nice Bill Russell salute on his way out for the Spurs' trouble

Hahahahahahahahaha, does Kawhi have a girlfriend?


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[Luigi]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

If Magic sends out Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo, picks plus Deng for Kawhi, he is one dumb mofo.
There is no way the Lakers with LeBron, Kawhi and even a third star can beat HOuston or GSW without depth.
In fact, they will be gutted for an aging LeBron and injury concern Kawhi.
I just cannot believe Magic and Pelinka would bend here.

The decision has to be 2 out of Kuzma, Ingram and Lonzo plus FRP for Kawhi.
Magic has to call LeBron's bluff and make him decide while trying to convince PG to come when FA starts.

I think this is spot on. But it's not about what Leonard is worth, its about what you have to pay to get him. Leonard is worth more than that big Lakers offer. But his market price is lower because of his statements and timing.

I think Magic is trying to hold onto one of Kuzma and Ingram. But he's gotta lose 'em both to get it done. That's ok. Let those two go and build. James, Leonard, George play both sides of the floor. That's a fairly complete team as it stands . You can find 2bigs, 2 point guards, and a wing in the G league if you have to. If the guards can shoot, the bigs can rebound, and the wing can move, you can compete with that.

[SK21209]

Unless I'm missing something, why in the world would we take Deng? The Lakers have cap room, salaries don't need to match. Obviously they want to put him in the deal, but if they want Kawhi they can fork over Ingram and Kuzma before Friday, use cap space, and settle for two stars.

[Jay 20]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

If Magic sends out Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo, picks plus Deng for Kawhi, he is one dumb mofo.
There is no way the Lakers with LeBron, Kawhi and even a third star can beat HOuston or GSW without depth.
In fact, they will be gutted for an aging LeBron and injury concern Kawhi.
I just cannot believe Magic and Pelinka would bend here.

The decision has to be 2 out of Kuzma, Ingram and Lonzo plus FRP for Kawhi.
Magic has to call LeBron's bluff and make him decide while trying to convince PG to come when FA starts.

This won't happen. LeBron will not committ and potentially put himself in a similar situation as in Cleveland, without knowing 100% what at least George is doing, he also probably will want to wait to see if they do get Leonard or not. LeBron holds all the cards, he doesn't have to sign with anyone until he decides what is best for him and that involves knowing where everyone else is.

[Luigi]

Unless I'm missing something, why in the world would we take Deng? The Lakers have cap room, salaries don't need to match. Obviously they want to put him in the deal, but if they want Kawhi they can fork over Ingram and Kuzma before Friday, use cap space, and settle for two stars.

That's probably right.

They should use Ball in a separate trade to get rid of Deng.

[Upperclass]

Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected

This is about the best offer the Spurs will get. I said on Twitter that I felt Zhaire was traded for with the intention of flipping him to the Spurs.. he's a very Popovich-like prospect.

I wouldnt be surprised if Philly is willing to flip Kawhi in a 3way to LA for Ingram, Hart etc.

[Luigi]

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

If Magic sends out Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo, picks plus Deng for Kawhi, he is one dumb mofo.
There is no way the Lakers with LeBron, Kawhi and even a third star can beat HOuston or GSW without depth.
In fact, they will be gutted for an aging LeBron and injury concern Kawhi.
I just cannot believe Magic and Pelinka would bend here.

The decision has to be 2 out of Kuzma, Ingram and Lonzo plus FRP for Kawhi.
Magic has to call LeBron's bluff and make him decide while trying to convince PG to come when FA starts.

This won't happen. LeBron will not committ and potentially put himself in a similar situation as in Cleveland, without knowing 100% what at least George is doing, he also probably will want to wait to see if they do get Leonard or not. LeBron holds all the cards, he doesn't have to sign with anyone until he decides what is best for him and that involves knowing where everyone else is.

This is right. But Lebron will also want to influence where other guys go. That's gotta be why he wants to get it done early. If everyone goes places where he can't put anything together, he'll lose out by waiting.

[Dallas2020]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

I can’t imagine that Philly would actually offer that without an extension promised.

Fultz has 0 value, Smith hasn't played a single game in the NBA, Saric is your average SF and the pick is 3 years from now. By that time Miami is likely to be a solid PO team. This package is crap. We are talking about Top 2 player.

[Luigi]

Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected

This is about the best offer the Spurs will get. I said on Twitter that I felt Zhaire was traded for with the intention of flipping him to the Spurs.. he's a very Popovich-like prospect.

I wouldnt be surprised if Philly is willing to flip Kawhi in a 3way to LA for Ingram, Hart etc.

How does the last bit about Philly flipping Kawhi work?

If Ingram, Hart etc is better than Sarc, Fulz, Smith, Miami 2021, why wouldn't the Spurs just take that offer from the Lakers?