Galloisdaman wrote:DoItALL9 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:
One could argue the Warriors had a good chance of winning in 2016 if Iguodala was fully healthy. So that is 1 championship for you. The 2018 Western Conference Final might have been won in 5 instead of 7 if we was healthy too.
Not many would argue they would've won in 2015 without his exceptional abilities.
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That is what a team is about but would they have won without Curry? Without Klay? Without Green? Without Livingston? Often championships take contributions from many players. That does not mean they are all hall of famers.
The Cavs would not have won in 2016 without Tristan Thompsons 10points and 10 rebounds a game. Does that make him a driving force for that ring and deserving of the hall of fame?
Rings do not equal hall of fame and lack of rings does not mean they are not a hall of famer.
Galloisdaman wrote:DoItALL9 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:
One could argue the Warriors had a good chance of winning in 2016 if Iguodala was fully healthy. So that is 1 championship for you. The 2018 Western Conference Final might have been won in 5 instead of 7 if we was healthy too.
Not many would argue they would've won in 2015 without his exceptional abilities.
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I don't believe the Warriors would've won those championships if they were missing any of those players minus Shaun Livingston. They didn't only win once. They're possibly about to win their 4th which is very significant in the history of the game.
Tristan Thompson's (significant) contribution to 1 title is not truly comparable.
The 2004 Detroit Pistons did not have a superstar player. They won as unit. One ring doesn't earn them HoF status in my opinion however if they had won 4 in a row or 4 in 5 years as the Warriors look apt to do they would be. There's precedence for this with the 60s Celtics. Not every player made the Hall but key contributors did.
Also, it doesn't make sense to try to tell the history of the game which is what the Hall does and not include a Finals MVP. "You play to win the game" and he was deemed the most important player of the series that everyone set out at the start of the year to win.
"Rings do not equal hall of fame and lack of rings does not mean they are not a hall of famer."
Maybe not in your opinion but at a certain point they do seemingly in Springfield, MA if you're a key contributer.
"Key" is subjective though.
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