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mademan wrote:Always love seeing these threads. Basketball talent is better today. Its absolutely ridiculous that some people think otherwise.
Literally no other industry thinks to themselves they were better in the pre-analytical era
mademan wrote:lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today
thebigbird wrote:LakerLegend wrote:The Bulls went against and dominated teams with players like Oakley, Rich Mahorn, Shaq, Karl Malone, Barkley, Larry Johnson etc but they couldn't physically handle guys like Iguodala Marc Gasol Draymond etc.
Charles Oakley was 6'8 225 pounds. Rick Mahorn was 6'10 240 pounds. We've got stretch 4s bigger than that today. Hell, Kevin Love is 6'10 250.
Clyde Frazier wrote:Lost respect for arenas with his BS claims here. Always used to support his very short prime since most didn't realize how good he was. What a trash move especially attacking Anthony mason when he isn't even alive.
23-_6-_23 wrote:Baseball is the only sport (and that is still questionable that teams from back in the 70's could have competed with today's player)
I really don't think some of you quite understand just how much better athletes are today.
BigShaq34 wrote:Clyde Frazier wrote:Lost respect for arenas with his BS claims here. Always used to support his very short prime since most didn't realize how good he was. What a trash move especially attacking Anthony mason when he isn't even alive.
What did he say about mason?
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He's right on Pippen, he would be giving up 40 lbs to most the guys he would be defending.
He would get torched today. 210 lbs doesn't cut it any more.
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
SkyBill40 wrote:Gary Payton, right now, is like:Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He's right on Pippen, he would be giving up 40 lbs to most the guys he would be defending.
He would get torched today. 210 lbs doesn't cut it any more.
This reminds me of a befitting saying: "It's not about the size of the dog in the fight... but of the side of the fight in the dog."
Don't sleep on Pippen's skill despite him giving up some size. That's ignorant.
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:You put somebody 40lbs less, it's not going to be a fight. It's going to be a beat down.
Look how Demare Carroll did on Lebron. He got lit up at 215.
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:Gary Payton, right now, is like:Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He's right on Pippen, he would be giving up 40 lbs to most the guys he would be defending.
He would get torched today. 210 lbs doesn't cut it any more.
This reminds me of a befitting saying: "It's not about the size of the dog in the fight... but of the side of the fight in the dog."
Don't sleep on Pippen's skill despite him giving up some size. That's ignorant.
You put somebody 40lbs less, it's not going to be a fight. It's going to be a beat down.
Look how Demare Carroll did on Lebron. He got lit up at 215.
SkyBill40 wrote:Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:You put somebody 40lbs less, it's not going to be a fight. It's going to be a beat down.
Look how Demare Carroll did on Lebron. He got lit up at 215.
Actually, that's not always true. Looks at Rodman as a prime example of just how flawed your position on this happens to be. He regularly guarded and out rebounded players significantly larger than him in both mass and height, all with guile, skill, and intelligence. You're vastly overvaluing physical attributes and shorting intangibles. That's perfectly fine to do, but it's pretty narrow and regularly proven to be contradictory.
magicman1978 wrote:Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:Gary Payton, right now, is like:
This reminds me of a befitting saying: "It's not about the size of the dog in the fight... but of the side of the fight in the dog."
Don't sleep on Pippen's skill despite him giving up some size. That's ignorant.
You put somebody 40lbs less, it's not going to be a fight. It's going to be a beat down.
Look how Demare Carroll did on Lebron. He got lit up at 215.
Kawhi in 2014 was about the same size as prime Pippen...