Jason Tatum: I'm going to average over 20, make the All Star team, and the Celtics are going to the finals

[jacoby1us]

......and lead the Celtics to the finals.....

yup, all about him.

lead the Celtics to the Finals was the last comment out of his mouth. Which indicates it is not Priority ONE.
The kid seems selfish and I wouldn't be so quick to study everything about Kobe Bryant because his ego alone is freaking annoying as hell.

Yet Smitty just reported that the thing other players and team execs like the most about JB and JT is neither has an ego and will do whatever is needed to win.

You are talking WAY too much about a quote while talking about a video game rating. I mean, didn't you watch the game of zones rookie of the year episode? Probably the best they had.

Just stop.

I wont stop, for your sake I actually hope he does not have an ego like Kobe, but his approach last year during the season after an offseason with Kobe showed regression as he had some pretty selfish games. But hey it's whatever.

Good luck.

[Najee12]

The more and more this kid talks, he seems to be more and more about himself. Himself before anything else, I get having an Alpha Male mentality and all but my guy you have to put the team first. You just lost two big pieces from your organization, let your play do the talking for you, stop predicting and do.

......and lead the Celtics to the finals.....

yup, all about him.

lead the Celtics to the Finals was the last comment out of his mouth. Which indicates it is not Priority ONE.
The kid seems selfish and I wouldn't be so quick to study everything about Kobe Bryant because his ego alone is freaking annoying as hell.

You also can interpret it as Jayson Tatum speaking about achieving smaller goals first and then finalizing it by talking about his largest goal at the end -- a common communication pattern (end with the largest goal or objective).

[ITYSL]

Good news:

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[Rockice_24]

Little by little with the Rozier nonsense and now this you can just see how ego driven Rozier, Brown, and Tatum were. Yet they decided to party in between back to back games in MIA. Yeah that's how you get better.

[Duke4life831]

Kuzma vs. Tatum is an interesting comparison, now more than ever. If you gave Kuz the green light to play Kobe-ball

Kuzma career 20+ FGA games: 22
Tatum career 20+ FGA games: 3 (2 in the regular season)

Kuzma FGA per game last year: 15.5
Tatum FGA per game last year: 13.1

Not sure I really see this green light that Tatum was afforded that Kuzma wasn't.

[Duke4life831]

Good news:

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His finishing around the rim was pretty damn good for a 2nd year wing (68% within 3ft). The 2nd tweet is the big one, that is what needs to get bashed inside his head.

Tatum needs to realize that having a skilled midrange game is a big part of being a complete scorers, all the best scorers are killers from the mid range game. But the elite mid range game is a complementary piece to their game, it isn't what their game is built around. Tatum's game way too much last year was built around the mid range game, that limits his scoring potential when he does that.

[ITYSL]

His finishing around the rim was pretty damn good for a 2nd year wing (68% within 3ft). The 2nd tweet is the big one, that is what needs to get bashed inside his head.

Tatum needs to realize that having a skilled midrange game is a big part of being a complete scorers, all the best scorers are killers from the mid range game. But the elite mid range game is a complementary piece to their game, it isn't what their game is built around. Tatum's game way too much last year was built around the mid range game, that limits his scoring potential when he does that.

Yep, I agree re:midrange game. Too much of that last year from Tatum. There were two aspects to that, though. One was stepping inside the 3-point line after a pump fake, which is what that second tweet addresses. The second was him just settling for a midrange shot when he should be trying to drive, and that's where that first tweet comes in.

That first tweet for me is also about going through contact. I'd like to see Tatum at the line more often this season. His free throw rate took a dive last season.

[Prokorov]

Kyrie Irving played in the playoffs one time his entire career without LeBron James -- and we saw how that ended this season.

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

[Darth Celtic]

Kyrie Irving played in the playoffs one time his entire career without LeBron James -- and we saw how that ended this season.

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

Same amount of games AD has played in the playoffs in one season. Does that make Kyrie as good as AD?

Kyrie's playoff stats last year.
9 games (which you focus on) 21pts a game

Kemba's last playoffs
7 games (again your focus) 22.7 ppg

How many playoff games you have played in and how far is not an indication of how good you are.

Lebron didn't play a game in the playoffs last year, does that make 16 teams of 5 all better than him?

You keep using crap like this to make your off the wall posts and I'll just keep slamming them back down into the trash like the trash arguments they are. It's embarrassing man. I'm actually embarrassed for you. I'm embarrassed for all the Nets fans that you are making look bad.

Be better.

[Najee12]

Kyrie Irving played in the playoffs one time his entire career without LeBron James -- and we saw how that ended this season.

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

Boston's last playoff run without Kyrie Irving was better than its playoff run with him, I do know that much.

I'm waiting still for you to rank Charlotte's players compared to Boston's players, by the way. The only reason Kemba Walker was not in the playoffs and Irving was is because Irving had much better teammates.

[Prokorov]

Kyrie Irving played in the playoffs one time his entire career without LeBron James -- and we saw how that ended this season.

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

Same amount of games AD has played in the playoffs in one season. Does that make Kyrie as good as AD?

Kyrie's playoff stats last year.
9 games (which you focus on) 21pts a game

Kemba's last playoffs
7 games (again your focus) 22.7 ppg

How many playoff games you have played in and how far is not an indication of how good you are.

Lebron didn't play a game in the playoffs last year, does that make 16 teams of 5 all better than him?

You keep using crap like this to make your off the wall posts and I'll just keep slamming them back down into the trash like the trash arguments they are. It's embarrassing man. I'm actually embarrassed for you. I'm embarrassed for all the Nets fans that you are making look bad.

Be better.

again kyries worst playoffs on par with kemba's best.

only in celtics nation does being a career loser make you more of a winner then a guy with a ring and a great playoff resume.

how far you lead your team in the playoffs isnt an indicaiton of how good you are? lol thats that absurd.

is losing the goal are winning

Kyrie has better stats on better shooting with better efficiency and better playmaking while leading teams to better regular season records and more playoff success

yet somehow kemba is the better player despite statistically being worse and the better leader/winner despite losing season after losing season and never getting out of the first round

Kemba is a really good player, a fringe all-star/reserve all-star. be he isnt some great leader/winner/game changer. he is a volume scorer. he is westbrook without the playmaking, rebounding, defense, or game changing pace. He is the carmello of point gaurds... actually he isnt cause carmello actually had some regular season and playoff success

the excuse for kemba is "he didnt have good teammates". like that somehow means he is a winner? he sitll needs to prove it

[Darth Celtic]

Yes, we did see how it ended... it ended better then any season that Kemba walker has ever had.

Same amount of games AD has played in the playoffs in one season. Does that make Kyrie as good as AD?

Kyrie's playoff stats last year.
9 games (which you focus on) 21pts a game

Kemba's last playoffs
7 games (again your focus) 22.7 ppg

How many playoff games you have played in and how far is not an indication of how good you are.

Lebron didn't play a game in the playoffs last year, does that make 16 teams of 5 all better than him?

You keep using crap like this to make your off the wall posts and I'll just keep slamming them back down into the trash like the trash arguments they are. It's embarrassing man. I'm actually embarrassed for you. I'm embarrassed for all the Nets fans that you are making look bad.

Be better.

again kyries worst playoffs on par with kemba's best.

only in celtics nation does being a career loser make you more of a winner then a guy with a ring and a great playoff resume.

how far you lead your team in the playoffs isnt an indicaiton of how good you are? lol thats that absurd.

is losing the goal are winning

Kyrie has better stats on better shooting with better efficiency and better playmaking while leading teams to better regular season records and more playoff success

yet somehow kemba is the better player despite statistically being worse and the better leader/winner despite losing season after losing season and never getting out of the first round

Kemba is a really good player, a fringe all-star/reserve all-star. be he isnt some great leader/winner/game changer. he is a volume scorer. he is westbrook without the playmaking, rebounding, defense, or game changing pace. He is the carmello of point gaurds... actually he isnt cause carmello actually had some regular season and playoff success

the excuse for kemba is "he didnt have good teammates". like that somehow means he is a winner? he sitll needs to prove it

Again, your logic is so, so flawed. Kemba is a career loser, but AD isn't. Tell me, would you take Kyrie over AD on the nets? Please give us your thoughts on that one. State right now for all of realgm that you would take Kyrie on the nets over AD. This is what you are saying and I want it verified so I can sig it.

Also, a 3 time all star, including this year, is a fringe all star......

What is wrong with you? Stop before Nets fans are to embarrassed to ever post on the GB again.

[Hindenburg]

What else is he supposed to say, i'm going to average 10 points, the Celtics will not make the play offs and i'll have a 75 rating? Would that be the correct answer? Leave the kid alone, let him play the season and see what happens.

And yes of course the Celtics won't win the title this season, nobody with a brain would expect that. But a player has to say he wants to win it all otherwise people question his motor.

Well what is he supposed to say? I mean......"I'm gonna average 13 points per game and we're going to get bounced in the first round as an 8th seed." I for one (coming from a Sixers fan) think that Tatum is going to be a star player in this league. He's shown way too much to not get to an all star status, and he may even be better than that if he can stay healthy and keep improving. So averaging 20+ a game and being one of the main catalysts on a contending team isn't really all that far out of reach. Especially on that team with the talent they still have and the coaching they get from Stevens. The Celtics are just never a team i'm willing to bet against, they find ways to win, they find ways to stay relevant. Playing in the eastern conference is no cakewalk, but there are 3-4 teams that could make the finals next summer in Milwaukee, Philadelphia (i'm hoping), possibly Indy, and I honestly think Boston is up there over the likes of Brooklyn, Miami, and of course Detroit. So with that being said....Giannis and Milwaukee can be stopped in the postseason, Joel Embiid has had his injury issues...It's not that far fetched of him (Tatum) to make such proclamations.

lol I love posts like these. Is Tatum living in a video game with only 2 available responses? Both on the opposite extremes of the spectrum? There is nothing else he can say other than "I will be an all star" or "I will be a bum"?

He could have said million different things. How about something like "I will work hard on my game to take it to the next level and help my team go far in the playoffs"? I actually like him saying that but it makes me laugh when people make it sound like it's all black and white and no middle ground anywhere.

[Najee12]

Again, your logic is so, so flawed. Kemba is a career loser, but AD isn't. Tell me, would you take Kyrie over AD on the nets? Please give us your thoughts on that one. State right now for all of realgm that you would take Kyrie on the nets over AD. This is what you are saying and I want it verified so I can sig it.

Also, a 3 time all star, including this year, is a fringe all star......

What is wrong with you? Stop before Nets fans are to embarrassed to ever post on the GB again.

I agree - Prokorov is not making any sense.

He/she/it is saying Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not making the playoffs with a starting lineup of Nicolas Batum, Jeremy Lamb, Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller. Not one of Walker's teammates could have supplanted a Celtics player in the starting lineup.

But yet Anthony Davis has played in the playoffs twice in his career (the same number of times as Walker) but with better talent surrounding him. A team of Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday had a 34-31 record during the time Cousins was in New Orleans. I still have yet to see a valid explanation how a team with two big men averaging 25-plus points and 12-plus rebounds per game in today's NBA along with a fringe all-star guard cannot muster more than a 43-win pace.

Replacing Walker with Kyrie Irving on Charlotte's roster would have produced the same results for the Hornets -- not making the playoffs. We've seen Irving surrounded by better talent and those teams struggled, so Irving with a G-League roster certainly will result in Irving reliving his pre-LeBron experience in Cleveland.

Remove the three years Irving played with LeBron James in Cleveland, and Irving has the same career arc as Walker. Irving's non-LeBron playoff stats are very similar to Walker's. If James did not return to Cleveland, Irving literally would have the same career arc as Walker.

[Darth Celtic]

Again, your logic is so, so flawed. Kemba is a career loser, but AD isn't. Tell me, would you take Kyrie over AD on the nets? Please give us your thoughts on that one. State right now for all of realgm that you would take Kyrie on the nets over AD. This is what you are saying and I want it verified so I can sig it.

Also, a 3 time all star, including this year, is a fringe all star......

What is wrong with you? Stop before Nets fans are to embarrassed to ever post on the GB again.

Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not making the playoffs with a starting lineup of Nicolas Batum, Jeremy Lamb, Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller. Not one of Walker's teammates could have supplanted a Celtics player in the starting lineup.

But yet Anthony Davis has played in the playoffs twice in his career (the same number of times as Walker) but with better talent surrounding him. A team of Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday had a 34-31 record during the time Cousins was in New Orleans. I still have yet to see a valid explanation how a team with two big men averaging 25-plus points and 12-plus rebounds per game in today's NBA along with a fringe all-star guard cannot muster more than a 43-win pace.

Replacing Walker with Kyrie Irving on Charlotte's roster would have produced the same results for the Hornets -- not making the playoffs. We've seen Irving surrounded by better talent and those teams struggled, so Irving with a G-League roster certainly will result in Irving reliving his pre-LeBron experience in Cleveland.

Remove the three years Irving played with LeBron James in Cleveland, and Irving has the same career arc as Walker. Irving's non-LeBron playoff stats are very similar to Walker's. If James did not return to Cleveland, Irving literally would have the same career arc as Walker.

I'm not even argueing who is the better player, i'm just pointing out his reasoning is terrible and more flawed than thinking the earth is flat.

[Najee12]

I'm not even argueing who is the better player, i'm just pointing out his reasoning is terrible and more flawed than thinking the earth is flat.

You and I are in agreement. I believe you are misunderstanding -- my response is to Prokorov and his ridiculous assertion that Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not taking a G-League roster in Charlotte to the playoffs.

[Darth Celtic]

I'm not even argueing who is the better player, i'm just pointing out his reasoning is terrible and more flawed than thinking the earth is flat.

You and I are in agreement. I believe you are misunderstanding -- my response is to Prokorov and his ridiculous assertion that Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not taking a G-League roster in Charlotte to the playoffs.

Oh , I know we are on the same page. I was just pointing out that's not even my arguement with the guy. He just posted in another thread the cavs could sneak in the playoffs ahead of the Celtics because of the huge drop off in Kanter/Walker from Horford/Kyrie.

[Nazrmohamed]

3rd year is usually when players really establish themselves in the league Tatum might win most improved player next year. And I wouldn't write off Celtics getting to the finals, now that kyrie and scary terry is gone.

But Kanter

[Najee12]

I'm not even argueing who is the better player, i'm just pointing out his reasoning is terrible and more flawed than thinking the earth is flat.

You and I are in agreement. I believe you are misunderstanding -- my response is to Prokorov and his ridiculous assertion that Kemba Walker is a "loser" for not taking a G-League roster in Charlotte to the playoffs.

Oh , I know we are on the same page. I was just pointing out that's not even my arguement with the guy. He just posted in another thread the cavs could sneak in the playoffs ahead of the Celtics because of the huge drop off in Kanter/Walker from Horford/Kyrie.

Prokorov's stance is based on Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant signing with his favorite team the Brooklyn Nets and Prokorov is counting championships in his/her head. I bet Prokorov didn't have any of this energy for Irving when Irving was in Boston -- in fact, Prokorov probably was laughing at the mayhem Irving was creating on the Celtics.

[Darth Celtic]

3rd year is usually when players really establish themselves in the league Tatum might win most improved player next year. And I wouldn't write off Celtics getting to the finals, now that kyrie and scary terry is gone.

But Kanter

You mean the guy who started at Center for the WCF team averaging 30mpg in the playoffs?

Starting along defensive powerhouse Mo Harkless covering up for his bad defense i'm sure.