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Re: Lebron has the worst diet ever and is still King 

Post#141 » by LakerLegend » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:49 pm

robbie84 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:for anyone who thinks lebron has been on steroids at any point in his career think for a minute. Steroids have to be cycled, on and off. when people come off them, they lose the gains theyve made..... lebron looks like the hulk year round and has progressed steadily throughout his career which has been on tv 9 months a year for the last 17 years..... so when was he on them?


I mean he does have a 4 month off season every single year, that is a pretty big window. I think it is far more likely that he has taken PEDs than him not having taken PEDs. This is also not just a LeBron thing, I think this goes for the majority of the top NBA athletes. You have a league that conducts its own PED tests, they didnt even start testing for HGH until like 5 years ago. Id point to the UFC to see the difference when an organization changes from conducting its own PED tests to hiring an independent company.

I would also point to a ton of other sports that dont have nearly as much money on the line that have a ton of PED users. The NBA has hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for these guys. Just look at baseball in the 90s and early 2000s, practically every great player from that era was caught juicing. The effects of PEDs can be far greater in the NBA than in the MLB.



FYI it's worth mentioning that PEDs are allowed in the UFC (I'm not sure what the NBA policy is, if it's a zero tolerence or a small amount is allowed), and many, many UFC fighters take PEDs for injury recovery and general strength/fitness in general- they are just small amounts that are legal within the sport.

I'm not convinced on Lebron. The guy has been a monster since he was 16. He was a monster when he came into the league and then started a high calorie, high protein NBA diet with an NBA gym program.
Combine those with freakish genetics and the metabolism of an impoverished American ghetto child and you get a freak of nature who met all the right conditions to flourish.
I mean he's huge, but he's 6 foot 8 with broooaaadd shoulders, huge hands, huge feet, huge head, huge muscles that are connecting those limbs.

He's been really lucky with injuries, but he's so much bigger than everyone else and his playing style isn't like Derrick Rose or Allen Iverson where he hits the deck alot. He gets fouled alot, and he barrels through people alot, but he just doesn't have a risky body type or playing style.


lol.

You do realize what you're saying flies in the face of all logic right?

Arnold Schwarzenneger, Lance Armstrong, Hulk Hogan, Barry Bonds, Mark Mcwgire, Sammy Sosa, etc.

All are also in the top 1% of genetics or whatever you want to call it, and all admitted to using PED's.

There is a LIMIT to human genetics.

When someone is BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER, AND MORE DURABLE THAN EVERYONE ELSE WHILE ALSO LOOKING DIFFERENT...it's like Lebatard said: "Where there's smoke, there's a good chance of fire".

The fact that some people don't find things like these the least bit suspicious shows they're approaching it emotionally and not logically:

This was before his infamous 50 point game vs the Warriors in the Finals. Why would you need to go to Miami from Cleveland when the game is in Oakland:

LeBron James Briefly Went To Miami Before Start Of Finals


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-lebron-james-udonis-haslem-s20180614-story.html

This happened after the HGH ban guess where he went? Miami:

Here's the story behind the 2-week break that turned LeBron James' season around

Windhorst says that late in 2014, James had been moody and his body wasn't 100%. After suddenly deciding not to play in a game against the Hawks, the Cavs gave him take two weeks off to rest, from which he returned healthy and in a better mood, seemingly revitalized by some midseason trades.

"[James] had sort of just like waved a bit of a white flag there. He just didn't feel like playing. He had never done that ever before. He had always just played through it. And so it was after that game, [the Cavaliers] said, 'Alright, take your two weeks off,' because he had reached a very low point."

Nobody is quite sure why James' two-week break turned around his season. He does seem healthier and more explosive.
If it was just fatigue and simple aches that he was dealing with, then two weeks may have been enough to revitalize him.


https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4


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Post#142 » by LakerLegend » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:50 pm

6ixSideSniper wrote:Lebron and Wade started developing much bigger jaws once they were in Miami together. I’m no expert, I just observed that as a casual fan. Does that mean they took HGH? I’m not a doctor nor will pretend to know how any of that works but I just thought that was real odd at the time of it happening.


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Post#143 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:52 pm

robbie84 wrote:If you've seen the photos of LeBron James' suspected father (who was also an NBA player), you'd give the guy more credit as to being natural.

Not sure why everyone says he's on roids.
He's literally a one in 1 billion human being. Almost alien. It's rare, but freaks of nature are just that- they buck the evolutionary curve.


I assume 99% of all pro athletes use drugs. If I'm wrong it's because I am guessing too low. It's honestly weird people think anyone isn't using something. They'd be idiots not to be.
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Post#144 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 pm

zimpy27 wrote:The funniest thing is that things like massage and drawing heat out of the muscles are far more helpful to performance than drugs. You can actually direct the therapy to the area that needs it instead of having a systemic affect that alters function (side effects) in other areas.


I'd love to see some serious research on this...cause I'm calling BS. That said I'd also be shocked anyone isn't doing some level of this as a pro as well.
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Post#145 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:01 pm

Duke4life831 wrote: The effects of PEDs can be far greater in the NBA than in the MLB.


Agree with everything else but this one is a bit harder to deal with.Most drugs have some level of negative impact in some area of performance, I guess EPO might be the perfect NBA drug. But I dunno, just getting stronger seemed like the best way to hit a baseball further...though I'm still not sure Bonds didn't get more from eye surgery than drugs (which is legal which is weird to me).
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Post#146 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:05 pm

robbie84 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:for anyone who thinks lebron has been on steroids at any point in his career think for a minute. Steroids have to be cycled, on and off. when people come off them, they lose the gains theyve made..... lebron looks like the hulk year round and has progressed steadily throughout his career which has been on tv 9 months a year for the last 17 years..... so when was he on them?


I mean he does have a 4 month off season every single year, that is a pretty big window. I think it is far more likely that he has taken PEDs than him not having taken PEDs. This is also not just a LeBron thing, I think this goes for the majority of the top NBA athletes. You have a league that conducts its own PED tests, they didnt even start testing for HGH until like 5 years ago. Id point to the UFC to see the difference when an organization changes from conducting its own PED tests to hiring an independent company.

I would also point to a ton of other sports that dont have nearly as much money on the line that have a ton of PED users. The NBA has hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for these guys. Just look at baseball in the 90s and early 2000s, practically every great player from that era was caught juicing. The effects of PEDs can be far greater in the NBA than in the MLB.



FYI it's worth mentioning that PEDs are allowed in the UFC (I'm not sure what the NBA policy is, if it's a zero tolerence or a small amount is allowed), and many, many UFC fighters take PEDs for injury recovery and general strength/fitness in general- they are just small amounts that are legal within the sport.

I'm not convinced on Lebron. The guy has been a monster since he was 16. He was a monster when he came into the league and then started a high calorie, high protein NBA diet with an NBA gym program.
Combine those with freakish genetics and the metabolism of an impoverished American ghetto child and you get a freak of nature who met all the right conditions to flourish.
I mean he's huge, but he's 6 foot 8 with broooaaadd shoulders, huge hands, huge feet, huge head, huge muscles that are connecting those limbs.

He's been really lucky with injuries, but he's so much bigger than everyone else and his playing style isn't like Derrick Rose or Allen Iverson where he hits the deck alot. He gets fouled alot, and he barrels through people alot, but he just doesn't have a risky body type or playing style.


You're assuming I *think* that lebron was clean in high school. Keep in mind he's of the age where andro was not only available but legal and over the counter. That era was FILLED with some pretty horrible drugs being legal and just an online order away from your house for VERY reasonable prices. Steroid use in high school sports is VERY high and especially so back then.
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Post#147 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:08 pm

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clyde21 wrote:you can eat w/e you want when you train as hard and as often as LeBron


hmmm I mean sure but what about health, inflammation, energy, I'm not sure I completely buy this, the dude has been on top of his recovery for ages I just can't see him dropping the ball consistently and eating rubbish constantly.


well, depends on what you mean by rubbish.

as long as you avoid the major things: sugar, processed foods, and cooking in bad oils (canola/vegetable/soybean, etc.)...you can eat whatever you want as long as you're not overdoing it and training/excercising regularly.

professional athletes literally train for a living, it's not really that hard to stay in shape, you don't need to be a genetic god to be fit, i'm like at 9% BF and I eat bread, rice and pasta like 4 times a week lol


Meanwhile every trainer on the planet will want you to consume sugar after a workout :)
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Post#148 » by LakerLegend » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:12 pm

Kobe and Jordan don't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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Post#149 » by LakerLegend » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:21 pm

Shaq and Barkley didn't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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Post#150 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:22 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
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hmmm I mean sure but what about health, inflammation, energy, I'm not sure I completely buy this, the dude has been on top of his recovery for ages I just can't see him dropping the ball consistently and eating rubbish constantly.


well, depends on what you mean by rubbish.

as long as you avoid the major things: sugar, processed foods, and cooking in bad oils (canola/vegetable/soybean, etc.)...you can eat whatever you want as long as you're not overdoing it and training/excercising regularly.

professional athletes literally train for a living, it's not really that hard to stay in shape, you don't need to be a genetic god to be fit, i'm like at 9% BF and I eat bread, rice and pasta like 4 times a week lol


Meanwhile every trainer on the planet will want you to consume sugar after a workout :)


lol, what kinda moron trainer tells you that? fire them immediately.
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Post#151 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:23 pm

LakerLegend wrote:Kobe and Jordan don't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.




both 100% using PED's too...
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Post#152 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:24 pm

LakerLegend wrote:Shaq and Barkley didn't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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i doubt Barkley or Shaq spent that much time in the weight room tbh

using 2 players notoriously known for not having the greatest work ethic isnt proving your point buck

how about using David Robinson...was he on roids?

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Post#153 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:24 pm

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dhsilv2 wrote:
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well, depends on what you mean by rubbish.

as long as you avoid the major things: sugar, processed foods, and cooking in bad oils (canola/vegetable/soybean, etc.)...you can eat whatever you want as long as you're not overdoing it and training/excercising regularly.

professional athletes literally train for a living, it's not really that hard to stay in shape, you don't need to be a genetic god to be fit, i'm like at 9% BF and I eat bread, rice and pasta like 4 times a week lol


Meanwhile every trainer on the planet will want you to consume sugar after a workout :)


lol, what kinda moron trainer tells you that? fire them immediately.


umm, yeah you always want an insulin spike in the post workout recovery time frame...this is lifting 101. this is like learning your ABC's before they teach you to read.
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Post#154 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:26 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
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Meanwhile every trainer on the planet will want you to consume sugar after a workout :)


lol, what kinda moron trainer tells you that? fire them immediately.


umm, yeah you always want an insulin spike in the post workout recovery time frame...this is lifting 101. this is like learning your ABC's before they teach you to read.


you can get that insulin spike by eating complex carbs, sugar is a simple carb is absolute trash for your body, pre or post workout.

again, whoever is telling you that fire them immediately.

thanks for letting me us know about the basics tho my guy.
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Post#155 » by LakerLegend » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:28 pm

clyde21 wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:Shaq and Barkley didn't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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i doubt Barkley or Shaq spent that much time in the weight room tbh

using 2 players notoriously known for not having the greatest work ethic isnt proving your point buck

how about using David Robinson...was he on roids?

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Why assume no one else was/is on anything.

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Post#156 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 pm

LakerLegend wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:Shaq and Barkley didn't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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i doubt Barkley or Shaq spent that much time in the weight room tbh

using 2 players notoriously known for not having the greatest work ethic isnt proving your point buck

how about using David Robinson...was he on roids?

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Why assume no one else was/is on anything.

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are you just posting random pictures now without actually having a point?
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Post#157 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 pm

clyde21 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
lol, what kinda moron trainer tells you that? fire them immediately.


umm, yeah you always want an insulin spike in the post workout recovery time frame...this is lifting 101. this is like learning your ABC's before they teach you to read.


you can get that insulin spike by eating complex carbs, sugar is a simple carb is absolute trash for your body, pre or post workout.

again, whoever is telling you that fire them immediately.

thanks for letting me us know about the basics tho my guy.


No you can't, LMAO. You clearly do'nt lift, LMAO. Not only do athlete use sugar post workout, they use the fastest acting carbs they can get...complex carbs would completely fail at this.
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Post#158 » by OdomFan » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:30 pm

clyde21 wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:Shaq and Barkley didn't know how to lift, only LeBron knows how to lift.


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i doubt Barkley or Shaq spent that much time in the weight room tbh

using 2 players notoriously known for not having the greatest work ethic isnt proving your point buck

how about using David Robinson...was he on roids?

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David Robinson had that Military Physique
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Post#159 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:31 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
umm, yeah you always want an insulin spike in the post workout recovery time frame...this is lifting 101. this is like learning your ABC's before they teach you to read.


you can get that insulin spike by eating complex carbs, sugar is a simple carb is absolute trash for your body, pre or post workout.

again, whoever is telling you that fire them immediately.

thanks for letting me us know about the basics tho my guy.


No you can't, LMAO. You clearly do'nt lift, LMAO. Not only do athlete use sugar post workout, they use the fastest acting carbs they can get...complex carbs would completely fail at this.


HEY LOOK I CAN PUT LMAO TOO DOES IT MEAN I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT???

you...

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telling a guy with single digit BF he doesn't lift? lmao.
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Post#160 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
you can get that insulin spike by eating complex carbs, sugar is a simple carb is absolute trash for your body, pre or post workout.

again, whoever is telling you that fire them immediately.

thanks for letting me us know about the basics tho my guy.


No you can't, LMAO. You clearly do'nt lift, LMAO. Not only do athlete use sugar post workout, they use the fastest acting carbs they can get...complex carbs would completely fail at this.


HEY LOOK I CAN PUT LMAO TOO DOES IT MEAN I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT???

you...


telling a guy with single digit BF he doesn't lift? lmao.


Discussing body fat and lifting... I rest my case.

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