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Who are your top 3?

Anthony
28
4%
Ball
247
34%
Bey
28
4%
Edwards
131
18%
Haliburton
178
24%
Okoro
6
1%
Quickley
71
10%
Tate
5
1%
Williams
13
2%
Wiseman
28
4%
 
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Post#141 » by 13th Man » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:50 am

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Roger Murdock wrote:Is WIlliams expected to start? I viewed him as more of an unmolded ball of clay who'd come off bench to play wing or maybe the 4 in some matchups. Love his talent but wasnt sure on his role this year.


The starting lineup is not set in stone but based on tonight's game and his play thus far, I wouldn't be shocked if he starts day 1, particularly with how much Markkanen's been struggling.


They could also move Otto Porter to the bench as they did tonight maybe. I have Wendel Carter Jr on my team but he's been unimpressive offensively (everyone's waiting for him to break out)....might consider a swappage for Patrick Williams if he's going to get the nod.
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Post#142 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:15 am

Roger Murdock wrote:Is WIlliams expected to start? I viewed him as more of an unmolded ball of clay who'd come off bench to play wing or maybe the 4 in some matchups. Love his talent but wasnt sure on his role this year.


He is not expected to start but will play 25+minutes and contender for ROY because he plays like a 10 yr vet and not raw at all.
He can defend 5 positions and play like 3 positions. IMO, the minutes matter more than starting because Lavine will take all the shots. Best scenario would be playing 30 minutes as 6th man like he did for FSU, bumslay opponent 2nd units and win roy, 6th man of year with a 50/40/90 shooting splits. The kid is already superior offensive player to 3rd yr WCJ and best two way player already, 3rd best player overall on the roster. Floor is prob bigger J Brown and max ceiling is 2016 Kawhi.
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Post#143 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:18 am

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The Force. wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Is WIlliams expected to start? I viewed him as more of an unmolded ball of clay who'd come off bench to play wing or maybe the 4 in some matchups. Love his talent but wasnt sure on his role this year.


The starting lineup is not set in stone but based on tonight's game and his play thus far, I wouldn't be shocked if he starts day 1, particularly with how much Markkanen's been struggling.


They could also move Otto Porter to the bench as they did tonight maybe. I have Wendel Carter Jr on my team but he's been unimpressive offensively (everyone's waiting for him to break out)....might consider a swappage for Patrick Williams if he's going to get the nod.


This is a possibility and want to see it but coach/AK wont be brave enough to bench a 28mil max guy gunning for a 120 mil contract like Hayward. Honestly, tonight was more of an experiment esp due to covid and bc of Otto's health.
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Post#145 » by karkinos » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:20 pm

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6. its hard to believe jayson tatum is only 19


yeah because he's 22.
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Post#146 » by DaGawd » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:46 pm


Knicks need to start this kid. He’s better than Elfrid Payton and Dennis Smith already. And immediately changed the game when he checked in
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Post#147 » by Alonzo_Morning » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm

Paddy Wiliams got damn

That boy got superstar written all over him already
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Post#148 » by whitehops » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:18 pm

for anyone with spare time tonight, the pistons-wizards game features four guys drafted in the top 20.

for the pistons, hayes has shown some flashes but has been inconsistent so far, saddiq bey has impressed offensively and looks to be more versatile than just a shooter. isaiah stewart plays with great energy but hasn't gotten enough minutes yet to judge more than that.
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Post#149 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:29 pm

Pat Williams looks about as good as I thought he would be in 2 years. Some of those dribble pull-ups are moves I thought he would need much more time to connect on. Was high on the kid but didnt expect him to be more than a high effort, garbage guy for 1-2 years before blossoming. Looks like he is ahead of my personal curve at least.

I think Ball and Edwards over Pat Williams will look pretty silly in a few years.
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Post#150 » by Zombiesonics » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:47 pm

Kudos to Chicago for seeing how well Williams would translate. He looks like he could guard 1-4 right now and has a ton of offensive upside, his physical profile is way more impressive than edwards to me.
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Post#151 » by BillessuR6 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:47 pm

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Knicks need to start this kid. He’s better than Elfrid Payton and Dennis Smith already. And immediately changed the game when he checked in


Wanted him end of the first round for the Celtics. Love his shooting!
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Post#152 » by Goudelock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:54 pm

whitehops wrote:for anyone with spare time tonight, the pistons-wizards game features four guys drafted in the top 20.

for the pistons, hayes has shown some flashes but has been inconsistent so far, saddiq bey has impressed offensively and looks to be more versatile than just a shooter. isaiah stewart plays with great energy but hasn't gotten enough minutes yet to judge more than that.


I'm a big fan of Hayes and saw some of their game against the Knicks, so I'll definitely tune in to this one.
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Post#153 » by oldshoolballer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:02 pm

This is what I like so far
1 Patrick Williams
2 Issac Okoro
3 Deni Avdija
4 Malachi Flynn
5 Theo Maledon
6 Cole Anthony
7 Devin Vassell
8 Desmond Bane
9 LaMelo Ball
10 Obi Toppin
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Post#154 » by BadWolf » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:26 pm

oldshoolballer wrote:This is what I like so far
1 Patrick Williams
2 Issac Okoro
3 Deni Avdija
4 Malachi Flynn
5 Theo Maledon
6 Cole Anthony
7 Devin Vassell
8 Desmond Bane
9 LaMelo Ball
10 Obi Toppin


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Post#155 » by Alonzo_Morning » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:30 pm

BadWolf wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:This is what I like so far
1 Patrick Williams
2 Issac Okoro
3 Deni Avdija
4 Malachi Flynn
5 Theo Maledon
6 Cole Anthony
7 Devin Vassell
8 Desmond Bane
9 LaMelo Ball
10 Obi Toppin


Sell high, sell high!


And buy low?

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Post#156 » by Fat » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:39 pm

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Devin Booker | Dosunmu
Jabari Smith Jr | Derozan | Okoro
Karl Towns | Barnes | Highsmith
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Post#157 » by RookieStar » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:31 pm

Ok Rookie talk.

Before all these stuff happened ( pandemic, lockdown, shortened season, etc etc ) This draft was considered pretty "meh" In fact there wasn't even any consensus #1 pick. I even read about stuff that the top pick/s in this draft wouldn't even be top-3 in next year's draft.

But to my pleasant surprised, picks outside the lotto are having pretty good games ( so far anyway ). I mean not all-star stuff but decent and quality.

How much do you attribute this to the environment? Like no fans , so jitters and pressure are gone, so rookies are just concentrating on the game , no distractions ( with lock downs and quarantine protocols, rookies are more concentrated on the game and practices rather than the " distraction of a baller's life" ).

You think some front offices would learn from this?
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Post#158 » by Marcus » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:46 pm

RookieStar wrote:Ok Rookie talk.

Before all these stuff happened ( pandemic, lockdown, shortened season, etc etc ) This draft was considered pretty "meh" In fact there wasn't even any consensus #1 pick. I even read about stuff that the top pick/s in this draft wouldn't even be top-3 in next year's draft.

But to my pleasant surprised, picks outside the lotto are having pretty good games ( so far anyway ). I mean not all-star stuff but decent and quality.

How much do you attribute this to the environment? Like no fans , so jitters and pressure are gone, so rookies are just concentrating on the game , no distractions ( with lock downs and quarantine protocols, rookies are more concentrated on the game and practices rather than the " distraction of a baller's life" ).

You think some front offices would learn from this?


Folks landing in good spots with low expectations. Adapting to be role players on NBA teams. It's been a solid marriage thus far. IRT environment I do think playing statline pickup does help guys ease into the transition better. They can focus on what got them here in the first place which is the game. Can't really indulge in the rest.
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Post#159 » by Roger Murdock » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:23 am

RookieStar wrote:Ok Rookie talk.

Before all these stuff happened ( pandemic, lockdown, shortened season, etc etc ) This draft was considered pretty "meh" In fact there wasn't even any consensus #1 pick. I even read about stuff that the top pick/s in this draft wouldn't even be top-3 in next year's draft.

But to my pleasant surprised, picks outside the lotto are having pretty good games ( so far anyway ). I mean not all-star stuff but decent and quality.

How much do you attribute this to the environment? Like no fans , so jitters and pressure are gone, so rookies are just concentrating on the game , no distractions ( with lock downs and quarantine protocols, rookies are more concentrated on the game and practices rather than the " distraction of a baller's life" ).

You think some front offices would learn from this?


To me this draft was really good outside the top-10 or so. Like Haliburton, Vassell etc feel like better than average late lotto picks. Then you start getting even deeper and it just keeps getting better and better for later picks.

The issue was at the top. Basically all these guys have huge warts. They either weren't super productive (Edwards, Williams), didn't seem to have high scoring potential, had limited film etc... Compared to prior years you had Morant, Barrett, Zion who were tremendously productive + had good body types etc.

Because everyone was a risk teams drafted for fit more than BPA and I think really ever guy drafted went to a good home.
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