OT: Lionel Messi leaving Barcelona (Update: Signs with PSG)

[Cactus Jack]

ugh who even watches League 1. All for the money, great.

As a Madrid fan, you should be thrilled.

Honestly tho this is going to kill LaLiga.

[Marty McFly]

2 years but for how much... thinking a billion..

[Sedale Threatt]

Reading up on the details about how Barcelona got here, the level of mismanagement is shocking, by both the team and the fact that La Liga allowed it. It reminded me of how the US government has gotten so ridiculously into debt: Just keep kicking the can down the road for the next group to deal with, and before you know it you're up to your eyeballs. You've obviously got to pay a premium to keep a player like Messi, and a good roster around him, and obviously the pandemic didn't help. But a $600 million payroll and more than $1 billion in debt is shocking given their brand power.

[UcanUwill]

ugh who even watches League 1. All for the money, great.

As a Madrid fan, you should be thrilled.

Honestly tho this is going to kill LaLiga.

would have been interesting to see him in England, but I just glad City didnt got him, screw that team

[Cactus Jack]

Well damn. That PSG team super stacked.
Happy for Messi he gets to play with di Maria, not to mention the bigger profile stars on that team haha.

Indeed!



The true GOAT Gini Wijnaldum goes from one super team to another.

[UcanUwill]

Well damn. That PSG team super stacked.
Happy for Messi he gets to play with di Maria, not to mention the bigger profile stars on that team haha.

Indeed!



The true GOAT Gini Wijnaldum goes from one super team to another.

Is there a good list or site where I could check all biggest summer transfers? I do not follow any Soccer news really, I just figure some things out on a go and from FIFA games, very casual fan, I didnt even know they got Ramos and Donnarumma, sad he left AC Milan, I want that team to be good again.

[KokoKaizer]

Well damn. That PSG team super stacked.
Happy for Messi he gets to play with di Maria, not to mention the bigger profile stars on that team haha.

Indeed!

The fact that they still loose championship to Montpellier, Monaco (less of shock, sure) and Lille is still mind blogging in the past decade.

The french first level of Soccer is a farmer league except PSG.

[ACMFFL]

Well damn. That PSG team super stacked.
Happy for Messi he gets to play with di Maria, not to mention the bigger profile stars on that team haha.

Indeed!



The true GOAT Gini Wijnaldum goes from one super team to another.

Is there a good list or site where I could check all biggest summer transfers? I do not follow any Soccer news really, I just figure some things out on a go and from FIFA games, very casual fan, I didnt even know they got Ramos and Donnarumma, sad he left AC Milan, I want that team to be good again.

You're a good man.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/transfers/transferrekorde/statistik/top/plus/0/galerie/0?saison_id=2021&land_id=&ausrichtung=&spielerposition_id=&altersklasse=&jahrgang=0&leihe=&w_s=

[LAL1947]

Wut?! He didn't join the Lakers?? Didn't want him anyway.

[Cactus Jack]

The fact that they still loose championship to Montpellier, Monaco (less of shock, sure) and Lille is still mind blogging in the past decade.

The french first level of Soccer is a farmer league except PSG.

With Gini & Messi joining. I guess I'm officially on the PSG wagon.

Although the addition of Ramos is making me think twice about it.

[Balls Deep]

I think Messi is the GOAT but leaving Barcelona and going to a farmers league dominated by the team he’s joining is a pussy move. He should have challenged himself in the Premier League to end all debates about whether he’s the GOAT or not.

[Freighttrain]

ugh who even watches League 1. All for the money, great.

As a Madrid fan, you should be thrilled.

Honestly tho this is going to kill LaLiga.

I'm more a fan of seeing actually great players against great players. Not against some lower-tier teams when he could've chosen the Premier League or even Bundesliga. Goes to show he wants the easy route. He could've gotten the money from different clubs in a tougher competition but he chose PSG because it's the easiest. Not a fan.

[Raps in 4]

European soccer continues to be a joke. 3 top-5 players on the same team, while the rest of the league is basically a minor league. Not that he wasn't on similarly stacked teams in Barcelona before too, but at least La Liga had another 1-2 stacked teams to compete with him (the rest of every league beyond the 1-5 richest teams is always a minor league). This is why I can't support this garbage. We complain about super teams in in the NBA, but the NBA is a competitive utopia compared to the dumpster fire that is European soccer.

[Hook_Em]

Has anyone ever played with more talent around them?

[Raps in 4]

Has anyone ever played with more talent around them?

Lebron and KD come close. But at least they also faced more talent in their careers. The NBA is an actual professional sports league that employs professional athletes. Stacking the deck in soccer, when you are basically playing against rec league teams, is the biggest joke (non-top teams in soccer are literally just amateur teams with no money to sign anyone even remotely resembling a professional athlete). It's why I can't take any league achievements seriously in soccer. I don't give a **** about what a player does outside of Champions League and international competition. That's where their true colours show.

[Pharmcat]

European soccer continues to be a joke. 3 top-5 players on the same team, while the rest of the league is basically a minor league. Not that he wasn't on similarly stacked teams in Barcelona before too, but at least La Liga had another 1-2 stacked teams to compete with him (the rest of every league beyond the 1-5 richest teams is always a minor league). This is why I can't support this garbage. We complain about super teams in in the NBA, but the NBA is a competitive utopia compared to the dumpster fire that is European soccer.

The lack of competitiveness needs to be addressed. This is absurd

[Pharmcat]

Well damn. That PSG team super stacked.
Happy for Messi he gets to play with di Maria, not to mention the bigger profile stars on that team haha.

Indeed!



The true GOAT Gini Wijnaldum goes from one super team to another.

These players are so anti competitive, playing with each other against each other. Europe club soccer is going down the wrong path

[GSP]

LOL how does anyone watch soccer? Such an illusion of competition

You have a couple underdog champs rarely but unless you were a Barcelona or Real fan your team wasnt winning **** or even had a chance. I think those 2 have won like 30 of the last 35 La Liga championships and 70% of its history. 90 La Liga titles in history and like 6-7 teams total have won at least one. That is pathetic lmaoooo

and lets not even get started on all the other pointless leagues

Now Messi on Psg? Christ so finally he plays without a super stacked team and hes running from the grind

[UcanUwill]

These players are so anti competitive, playing with each other against each other. Europe club soccer is going down the wrong path

European soccer continues to be a joke. 3 top-5 players on the same team, while the rest of the league is basically a minor league. Not that he wasn't on similarly stacked teams in Barcelona before too, but at least La Liga had another 1-2 stacked teams to compete with him (the rest of every league beyond the 1-5 richest teams is always a minor league). This is why I can't support this garbage. We complain about super teams in in the NBA, but the NBA is a competitive utopia compared to the dumpster fire that is European soccer.

LOL how does anyone watch soccer? Such an illusion of competition

You have a couple underdog champs rarely but unless you were a Barcelona or Real fan your team wasnt winning **** or even had a chance. I think those 2 have won like 30 of the last 35 La Liga championships and 70% of its history. 90 La Liga titles in history and like 6-7 teams total have won at least one. That is pathetic lmaoooo

and lets not even get started on all the other pointless leagues

Now Messi on Psg? Christ so finally he plays without a super stacked team and hes running from the grind

NBA franchises are all on big cities relatively. Most European teams are small town based, so you really cant implement or expect cap rules or anything like that, big city teams will always be much bigger than teams based in towns with 20k people. When you live in small town and have a team, fanbases goal is not the title or champions league, never has been and never will be, its just something you support and hope to do its best. Big reason why Premier league is most competitive is because like 10 teams are based in London, one of the greatests cities in the world.
European sports believe most towns and cities should have a team, even it it means it will not be competitive, where USA sports believe only metropolies can have a team. Whichever you prefer.

[celticfan42487]

These players are so anti competitive, playing with each other against each other. Europe club soccer is going down the wrong path

European soccer continues to be a joke. 3 top-5 players on the same team, while the rest of the league is basically a minor league. Not that he wasn't on similarly stacked teams in Barcelona before too, but at least La Liga had another 1-2 stacked teams to compete with him (the rest of every league beyond the 1-5 richest teams is always a minor league). This is why I can't support this garbage. We complain about super teams in in the NBA, but the NBA is a competitive utopia compared to the dumpster fire that is European soccer.

LOL how does anyone watch soccer? Such an illusion of competition

You have a couple underdog champs rarely but unless you were a Barcelona or Real fan your team wasnt winning **** or even had a chance. I think those 2 have won like 30 of the last 35 La Liga championships and 70% of its history. 90 La Liga titles in history and like 6-7 teams total have won at least one. That is pathetic lmaoooo

and lets not even get started on all the other pointless leagues

Now Messi on Psg? Christ so finally he plays without a super stacked team and hes running from the grind

NBA franchises are all on big cities relatively. Most European teams are small town based, so you really cant implement or expect cap rules or anything like that, big city teams will always be much bigger than teams based in towns with 20k people. When you live in small town and have a team, fanbases goal is not the title or champions league, never has been and never will be, its just something you support and hope to do its best. Big reason why Premier league is most competitive is because like 10 teams are based in London, one of the greatests cities in the world.
European sports believe most towns and cities should have a team, even it it means it will not be competitive, where USA sports believe only metropolies can have a team. Whichever you prefer.

Well you can to an extent. Just basically make an EU version of the European leagues and then have a salary cap for the top level leagues and shared revenue.

Then it will become the NBA with the best players going to the party cities but it's better than the **** Monopoly system.

The EPL is "competitive" to that extent solely because of TV rights revenue given a team that results in the team that finishes 20th in the EPL making more money than the won that wins the German league. That way they can buy more and more of the best talent by comparison to the other top 5 leagues.