Foul-baiting rule change is ON

[kg01]

Trae Young crapping his pants rn about this.. half his career is based off this play. lol.

This is false.

[Texas Chuck]

Trae Young crapping his pants rn about this.. half his career is based off this play. lol.

This is false.

Not only is it false, its also just an incredibly stupid criticism. Here is a great FT shooter knowing that at the time the refs were going to call it in his favor. He's creating highly efficient offense for his team which is the primary thing they are paying him to do.

Never made sense to criticize Harden for any of his stuff either. If the league doesn't like it, they've always had the option to officiate it differently. But while they are calling it like this, expect really talented, really smart offensive players to take advantage. Not doing so would be stupid.

It's why I never complain about Wade in the 06 Finals. When he saw they were going to call a foul on all contact and he looked at the Dallas defense and saw not one guy who could stay in front of him, he should have done exactly what he did which was put his head down and attack and shoot FT's. His team has a championship because he did and they wouldn't if he hadn't. He owes zero apologies.

And Trae is simply way too talented an offensive player to not still be able to dominate games even if he doesn't get that one call much anymore.

[LivingLegend]

It's about time, this rule should have been changed 3+ years ago.

It was a thing of beauty watching Curry jump up and move into the defender jumping up trying to block the shot and they called it an offensive foul.

I want to say "It's about time!" but the refs will likely revert to their old ways at some point. It's like when the NBA introduced fines for flopping. It lasted about four days and then after that, the fines became a rarity.

I think it will stick longer, first off flopping is harder to identify and fines are a bigger deal, this is a change to make the game way better. We saw the continuation rules adjusted and they are still being enforced by the new rules. I also think the flopping thing is a bit overblown outside of a few players it rarely happens.

**** they also modified the old rip through move and made it a foul on the floor no matter what.

To be fair, Curry did not invent this...D-Wade was doing this 'foul baiting' crap on midrange jumpers back in 2006.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I never understood how it was always considered a foul when the offense of player jumps in towards the defender. I love the rule change we'll see if it sticks.

[Scalabrine]

Embarrassing y’all actually fall for this it’ll last till November like the flopping fines

Fines are different than actual calls on the floor though. There are plenty of rules that have changed the way players have played that have held up. Rip through. Grabbing the ball after the basket.

All we can do is express that we're happy it's currently being called the way it is and hope that it stays that way. It's a much more watchable product without that and players will stop doing it if it's not getting called.

[pipfan]

I love it. It will mean
1-more natural play-I HATE foul baiting
2-defenders can play tighter, without fear of a foul. I think this will matter more than the overall calls made-Defense will be allowed

[wade44]

Don’t trust the nba for this to last. When Luka and Traes PPG starts dropping, nba will cave

[Im Coming Home]

Trae Young crapping his pants rn about this.. half his career is based off this play. lol.

This is false.

No its not. Half his playstyle is based on foulbaiting. He's still a good to great player, but he will be lesser of a player than he would of been had they not cracked down on foulbaiting.

[kg01]

Trae Young crapping his pants rn about this.. half his career is based off this play. lol.

This is false.

No its not. Half his playstyle is based on foulbaiting. He's still a good to great player, but he will be lesser of a player than he would of been had they not cracked down on foulbaiting.

Again, this is false and now pretty dismissive. Guy's ppg went down when he started the foul stuff.

[Im Coming Home]

This is false.

No its not. Half his playstyle is based on foulbaiting. He's still a good to great player, but he will be lesser of a player than he would of been had they not cracked down on foulbaiting.

Again, this is false and now pretty dismissive. Guy's ppg went down when he started the foul stuff.

[kg01]

Ah yes, the gif-only response. Sure sign of a strong case.

[Ayt]

Trae Young crapping his pants rn about this.. half his career is based off this play. lol.

This is false.

No its not. Half his playstyle is based on foulbaiting. He's still a good to great player, but he will be lesser of a player than he would of been had they not cracked down on foulbaiting.

Trae averaged 8.7 FTA per game last year. What do you think that number will be this year?

[wow09]

Embarrassing y’all actually fall for this it’ll last till November like the flopping fines

Fines are different than actual calls on the floor though. There are plenty of rules that have changed the way players have played that have held up. Rip through. Grabbing the ball after the basket.

All we can do is express that we're happy it's currently being called the way it is and hope that it stays that way. It's a much more watchable product without that and players will stop doing it if it's not getting called.

There are still a few superstars who get the rip through call and shoot free throws on it.

[SUPERVILLAIN]

Two no calls for Trae in Atlanta.

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[Scalabrine]

Embarrassing y’all actually fall for this it’ll last till November like the flopping fines

Fines are different than actual calls on the floor though. There are plenty of rules that have changed the way players have played that have held up. Rip through. Grabbing the ball after the basket.

All we can do is express that we're happy it's currently being called the way it is and hope that it stays that way. It's a much more watchable product without that and players will stop doing it if it's not getting called.

There are still a few superstars who get the rip through call and shoot free throws on it.

Ah maybe sometimes but thats a major stretch.

What "superstars" consistently get that call?

[Scalabrine]

Two no calls for Trae in Atlanta.

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No calls??

Correct calls.

[Scalabrine]

Ah yes, the gif-only response. Sure sign of a strong case.

Says the guy who's only case so far has been "this is false".

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Woj specifically mentions Trae Young in the reporting of a meeting that took place during the playoffs where Trae Young continually hunted for fouls, baited refs, and flopped.

I'd love to hear more about your "strong case".

[Jcool0]

Hawks fans:

[Texas Chuck]

Ah yes, the gif-only response. Sure sign of a strong case.

Says the guy who's only case so far has been "this is false".

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Woj specifically mentions Trae Young in the reporting of a meeting that took place during the playoffs where Trae Young continually hunted for fouls, baited refs, and flopped.

I'd love to hear more about your "strong case".

This is really a dumb argument. But his case has been that Trae will still be effective even if he doesn't get those calls. His case was never that Trae didn't get them last year. I mean we all know Trae got them last year.

This isn't the gotcha you think it is. Now this appears to just be some childish Knicks/Hawks drama so I apologize if that's all this is and I'm bringing facts and reasoning into what is meant to be petty. Just let me know and I'll bow back out.

But if this is serious, you don't have anything here.

[Scalabrine]

Ah yes, the gif-only response. Sure sign of a strong case.

Says the guy who's only case so far has been "this is false".

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Woj specifically mentions Trae Young in the reporting of a meeting that took place during the playoffs where Trae Young continually hunted for fouls, baited refs, and flopped.

I'd love to hear more about your "strong case".

This is really a dumb argument. But his case has been that Trae will still be effective even if he doesn't get those calls. His case was never that Trae didn't get them last year. I mean we all know Trae got them last year.

This isn't the gotcha you think it is. Now this appears to just be some childish Knicks/Hawks drama so I apologize if that's all this is and I'm bringing facts and reasoning into what is meant to be petty. Just let me know and I'll bow back out.

But if this is serious, you don't have anything here.

Sorry, but what was my "argument"??? That Trae Young was reported as one of the reasons they were trying to change the rule of launching your body into a guy and getting a foul for it????? Thats not an argument Chuck, thats a fact!

I admittedly didn't read every page of this thread, but I have read him posting "false" and nothing else multiple different times. Also admittedly hate players constantly creating contact and flailing and wincing. Also admittedly cant stand Trae Young after that Knicks series... and watching live, in person, how he treated the refs for multiple games.

So, sure, theres some pettiness/personal preference here, but also think that foul baiting is a really unattractive form of basketball and I'm happy/hopeful that it wont be as prevalent.

EDIT: Also I agree that Trae Young will still be a really good player even without the constant foul hunting (he'll still find a way to do it). He's so smart and aggressive. Not arguing that at all.