Pointgod wrote:User_denied wrote:
This is definitely not how I see it. If he doesn't play this year then his value just goes down. Those advocating on holding Simmons indefinitely feels like they just want to "stick it" to Simmons rather then good asset management.
His value has no way to improve. He won't play and even if he does it's plain to see that it wouldn't go very well. And as for the "teams getting desperate" to make his value go up. This discounts the fact that other teams are involved in bidding and can outbid a devalued Simmons quite easily. So how do you get a star with him by holding on to him?
Holding on to him without a realistic way to increase his value is just lunacy to me. There are still decent (albeit not franchise changing packages) out there that you can combine with your own assets to get their star at a later date.
Because to anyone with half a brain it is absolute lunacy. I don’t understand how Morey has deluded himself and Sixers fans into believing that they’re going to get a better offer now than what they would have gotten before the season started. There are two things working against them that the pro Morey side never acknowledge.
1. Simmons hasn’t played at all this season. What GM aim their right mind would believe that the trade value goes up if a player hasn’t been on the court.
2. The whole mental health issues going public have made a mess of this whole thing. Now GMs are going to start questioning long term if Simmons is in the right frame of mind and he might bail on their teams. Look at how Kyrie’s erratic behavior has made him toxic.
Simmons asked for a trade in June/July it’s been almost 5 months. By December it’s going to be almost half a year and a quarter of the season that he hasn’t played. Should have been traded during the offseason, but Morey insisted on dicking around with insane trade requests. No team actually NEEDS Simmons right now. A lot could use him but the fact that Morey dragged this thing on longer doesn’t provide any incentive for any team to empty their war chest.
Flash4thewin wrote: 1) Look up the Andre Igudala Heat trade, he didn't play for most of the season and a team traded a first round pick for him and even gave him a contract extension lol
What happened with Andre Iguodala is completely irrelevant to the Simmons situation. And if all the 76ers are asking for Simmons is a first round pick, he would have been traded already.
Flash4thewin wrote: 2) The 76er won't trade him for pennies on the dollar, they want full value if they even want to trade him at all. Simmons is on a max contract with 4 years, they will void his contract and have him banned from entering the NBA for the remainder of the 4 years before they take a trash deal. The idea the Simmons is walking out of this without a scratch is insane. Arbitration will not be kind to Simmons.
Sure the 76ers are certainly within their right to try and void his contract, but get ready for a long, messy legal battle involving the NBAPA and NBA. And you show an amazing amount of ignorance if you believe that Simmons could be banned from the NBA. If 76ers voided his contract then he becomes a free agent and simply takes a minimum deal with a championship contender this year and half the league will move around contracts to make the capspace to sign him to a max contract in the offseason. You’re arguing that instead of getting 70 cents on the dollar the 76ers are better off getting 0 cents on the dollar. It’s a completely illogical argument.
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