Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#141 » by Liqourish » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:40 am

kodo wrote:I think the craziest part is that he runs into the tunnel and tries to come out the other side to flank the Lakers. They had to warn the Lakers to watch out for him.



Did he actually try to come out the other side or was that just speculation by the commentators? They showed Players looking at the tunnel, but there was a Pistons player back there trying to get back to his bench.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#142 » by DTP » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:40 am

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You could have at least called me out by my name. Secondly Lebron not fighting has nothing to do with him being a billionaire. That's a terrible take. It has more to do with him knowing that he is protected and can throw cheap shots and not have to worry about facing retaliation. He has a history of doing these type of things and having guys do his dirty work for him. Also if Lebron had better things to worry about then fighting with Isaiah then why did he throw a punch in his face?

Even though the league has made the game less physical with the rule changes I would say basketball is still a physical game in the paint. I don't care how physical Isaiah is as long as it's not dirty aka Karl Malone style basketball then it's fine. If other guys hate it then they shouldn't play. Simple as that don't play the game then. You got to accept the physical part of the game.


I wasn't coming directly at you....I said people because I've seen it in multiple posts. This is the internet my guy, I promise I'm not afraid to quote you.

LeBron is 37 years old, with a billion dollar brand and real things to play for (records, championship). It's not worth it getting into any petty fights with anyone in this league but especially not Isaiah freaking Stewart. LeBron is very careful about his imagine...you really think he's going to put himself in a position to be that unprofessional over a 20 year old nobody to him?

LeBron is what 19 years in? He's not a dirty dude. Did he mean to hit him? Sure. But I highly doubt he meant to hit him in the face, which is why he immediately apologized afterwards.


You are deflecting again. Being a billionaire doesn't stop you from doing stupid things. If Lebron didn't want a fight he should have never punched Isaiah in the first place. Lebron is from the streets he knows better. He definitely knows better that if you punch someone even if you say sorry that they are going to want to fight you. He stupidly miscalculated and thought because Isaiah was some young unknown player that he wouldn't retaliate and that he could get away with it.


I never said being a billionaire stops you from doing stupid things...I'm just saying LeBron has too much to lose from getting into petty fights on an NBA basketball court, it ain't worth it. Dude has a BILLION DOLLAR BRAND. This man is squeaky clean family guy. It aint happening....he's too smart for it and it had nothing to do with him being afraid of Stewart. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not going to address the "punch" thing....it wasn't a punch and I've posted multiple times my thoughts on it.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#143 » by Kobe>Jordan>God » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:42 am

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That reminded me of the Play. Half expected to see Stewart running through the marching band.


Cade Cunningham is the unsung hero, slowing down Stewart. You can tell he used to play football.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#144 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:43 am

CraZy turn of events . Not quite sure what happend . A eblow on rebound .. ?
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#145 » by SlovenianDragon » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:46 am

Ballerhogger wrote:CraZy turn of events . Not quite sure what happend . A eblow on rebound .. ?


No elbows.... Closed fist.

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#146 » by jehosafats » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 am

bstein14 wrote:Stewart plays hard physical basketball. He's constantly fighting for position and battling for rebounds. He gets a lot of fouls called on him. That said, certain NBA players don't like to play against that. Blake didn't like rookie Stewart being physical with him in practice and you can see they have an issue with one another. Giannis didn't like Stewart playing physical against him either. Stewart isn't playing dirty or cheap shotting people but he is making sure you feel him and feel it the next day.

That said, LeBron was frustrated the Pistons were blowing them out and frustrating with the way Stewart was being physical with him and AD and LeBron closed that fist and landed one hard right above his eye. There is zero doubt about LeBron's intent there. It's not a natural basketball movement to close a fist and swing your arm like that into the face area of an opponent.

Of course Stewart didn't handle it well either and completely lost his cool. He went off the rails shoving like 20 of his teammates and Pistons staff member's wanting to go after LeBron. I'm sure Pistons GM, coaching staff, players will all talk with him but that doesn't mean this is over. Playing again in a week I can also see how it plays out. Lakers flop/exaggerate contact and Stewart gets into foul trouble and frustrated. Then one of these guys drops a hard foul on the other and its on once again. Best case for the league might be for one of these guys not to play in a week.

That said, the NBA needs to show that the rules are the rules for anyone and both players should likely get at least a one game suspension, but LeBron likely deserves two for landing that punch and opening Stewart up like that. If not it sets a dangerous precedent for how you can swing your fist at someone's face on a box out.

This is a joke, right? He practically hip-tossed Blake on the low block, unprovoked, got up, then simulated sex with him.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#147 » by whitehops » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:49 am

it also bugs me how some people keep saying lebron elbowed stewart. if one can't even see that his elbow never touched stewart then how can one make determinations of intent or anything like that?
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Post#149 » by DTP » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:50 am

Kobe>Jordan>God wrote:
JeepCSC wrote:
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That reminded me of the Play. Half expected to see Stewart running through the marching band.


Cade Cunningham is the unsung hero, slowing down Stewart. You can tell he used to play football.


I'm just glad Cade didn't get hurt in the process.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#150 » by NYPiston » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:50 am

People actually think that was unintentional by Lebron? Get the **** outta here. Lebron knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes, Stewart's reaction was over the top but how would you feel if somebody intentionally punched you in the face?

Also, who knows what Lebron said to Stewart after because Stewart didn't really go off until after their confrontation, I bet Lebron was talking down to him a bit, kind of like "Who are you?". Just speculation of course but Stewart's fuse wasn't lit until after they had words.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#151 » by DTP » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:51 am

whitehops wrote:it also bugs me how some people keep saying lebron elbowed stewart. if one can't even see that his elbow never touched stewart then how can one make determinations of intent or anything like that?


Pistons twitter swears it was a closed fist.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#152 » by Mogolo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:52 am

Jables wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Lebron should get 2-3 games. Stewart should get a large fine for delaying the game, maybe one game out.

I think it is funny there are posters who are basically saying you can punch people in the face as long as you check on them afterward.

Obviously I have more sympathy for Stewart but you can't just fine a guy when he kept trying to get back at him.

LeBron is always doing this **** though and getting away with it, people are blind if they don't see it. Did he even get suspended for pushing Embiid mid-air?


Lebron is NBAs baby that's why he gets away with everything he has over the years. we will see tomorrow how far the nba will let him go.. 3-5 is what Lebron should get anything less and it's a message to the entire NBA that Lebron is untouchable.. people are screaming Stew went crazy after but Lebron started it and connected with intent, witch started everything.. so we shall see
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Post#153 » by John Murdoch » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:52 am

Vogel is happy for the distraction, he was getting canned tnight 100%
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#154 » by bstein14 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:54 am

jehosafats wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Stewart plays hard physical basketball. He's constantly fighting for position and battling for rebounds. He gets a lot of fouls called on him. That said, certain NBA players don't like to play against that. Blake didn't like rookie Stewart being physical with him in practice and you can see they have an issue with one another. Giannis didn't like Stewart playing physical against him either. Stewart isn't playing dirty or cheap shotting people but he is making sure you feel him and feel it the next day.

That said, LeBron was frustrated the Pistons were blowing them out and frustrating with the way Stewart was being physical with him and AD and LeBron closed that fist and landed one hard right above his eye. There is zero doubt about LeBron's intent there. It's not a natural basketball movement to close a fist and swing your arm like that into the face area of an opponent.

Of course Stewart didn't handle it well either and completely lost his cool. He went off the rails shoving like 20 of his teammates and Pistons staff member's wanting to go after LeBron. I'm sure Pistons GM, coaching staff, players will all talk with him but that doesn't mean this is over. Playing again in a week I can also see how it plays out. Lakers flop/exaggerate contact and Stewart gets into foul trouble and frustrated. Then one of these guys drops a hard foul on the other and its on once again. Best case for the league might be for one of these guys not to play in a week.

That said, the NBA needs to show that the rules are the rules for anyone and both players should likely get at least a one game suspension, but LeBron likely deserves two for landing that punch and opening Stewart up like that. If not it sets a dangerous precedent for how you can swing your fist at someone's face on a box out.

This is a joke, right? He practically hip-tossed Blake on the low block, unprovoked, got up, then simulated sex with him.



Two players got tangled up nothing dirty about it. I've seen Blake hit people dirty, and obviously Stewart has never done anything close to what LeBron did tonight. Playing hard and physical isn't dirty basketball. Taking cheap shots and unnatural movements to connect to someone's face is playing dirty.
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Post#155 » by GunnerWRX » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:55 am

LeBron got breathed on his face and he’d hold his head lying on the floor and the refs would call a flagrant.

LeBron bloodying someone’s head I’d guess either nothing or at most a 1 game suspension.

How dare that dude stayed on the court after LeBron gashing his face? He should’ve left before the blood came out.
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Post#156 » by NYPiston » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:55 am

DTP wrote:
whitehops wrote:it also bugs me how some people keep saying lebron elbowed stewart. if one can't even see that his elbow never touched stewart then how can one make determinations of intent or anything like that?


Pistons twitter swears it was a closed fist.


Forget twitter, just watch it. Closed fist right to the kisser and obviously intentional.
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Post#157 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:56 am

Mogolo wrote:
DaFan334 wrote:Stewart apparently grew up Boxing... God, I would have paid money to see that fight actually happen.


Stewart would have mopped the floor with Lebron.



Likely, but this is the NBA and fighting prowess is not one of skills. Don’t want to see players get hurt, when the game itself causes so many injuries naturally. Drama is interesting I remember watching the Malice at the Palace live and waking up my ex wife and forcing her to watch it. I’m one that really gets annoyed by LeBrons antics and over acting, but I surely don’t want to see him getting knocked out and potentially ending his career in a game. I’d rather see him get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs.

Stewart needs to be talked to or counseling. The initial reaction is more than fine. Running through the tunnel etc.. not cool at all. You are being paid a nice amount of money to be a professional. Part of that is code of conduct. Get mad but go to the lockeroom and cool off. You got millions of dollars on the line.
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Post#158 » by vado » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:58 am

It was a spinning back fist
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Post#159 » by Mogolo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:58 am

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Mogolo wrote:
DaFan334 wrote:Stewart apparently grew up Boxing... God, I would have paid money to see that fight actually happen.


Stewart would have mopped the floor with Lebron.



Likely, but this is the NBA and fighting prowess is not one of skills. Don’t want to see players get hurt, when the game itself causes so many injuries naturally. Drama is interesting I remember watching the Malice at the Palace live and waking up my ex wife and forcing her to watch it. I’m one that really gets annoyed by LeBrons antics and over acting, but I surely don’t want to see him getting knocked out and potentially ending his career in a game. I’d rather see him get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs.

Stewart needs to be talked to or counseling. The initial reaction is more than fine. Running through the tunnel etc.. not cool at all. You are being paid a nice amount of money to be a professional. Part of that is code of conduct. Get mad but go to the lockeroom and cool off. You got millions of dollars on the line.



I think it was the blood mask he was sporting... when you get covered in blood something just pops.
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Post#160 » by DTP » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:58 am

bstein14 wrote:
jehosafats wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Stewart plays hard physical basketball. He's constantly fighting for position and battling for rebounds. He gets a lot of fouls called on him. That said, certain NBA players don't like to play against that. Blake didn't like rookie Stewart being physical with him in practice and you can see they have an issue with one another. Giannis didn't like Stewart playing physical against him either. Stewart isn't playing dirty or cheap shotting people but he is making sure you feel him and feel it the next day.

That said, LeBron was frustrated the Pistons were blowing them out and frustrating with the way Stewart was being physical with him and AD and LeBron closed that fist and landed one hard right above his eye. There is zero doubt about LeBron's intent there. It's not a natural basketball movement to close a fist and swing your arm like that into the face area of an opponent.

Of course Stewart didn't handle it well either and completely lost his cool. He went off the rails shoving like 20 of his teammates and Pistons staff member's wanting to go after LeBron. I'm sure Pistons GM, coaching staff, players will all talk with him but that doesn't mean this is over. Playing again in a week I can also see how it plays out. Lakers flop/exaggerate contact and Stewart gets into foul trouble and frustrated. Then one of these guys drops a hard foul on the other and its on once again. Best case for the league might be for one of these guys not to play in a week.

That said, the NBA needs to show that the rules are the rules for anyone and both players should likely get at least a one game suspension, but LeBron likely deserves two for landing that punch and opening Stewart up like that. If not it sets a dangerous precedent for how you can swing your fist at someone's face on a box out.

This is a joke, right? He practically hip-tossed Blake on the low block, unprovoked, got up, then simulated sex with him.



Two players got tangled up nothing dirty about it. I've seen Blake hit people dirty, and obviously Stewart has never done anything close to what LeBron did tonight. Playing hard and physical isn't dirty basketball. Taking cheap shots and unnatural movements to connect to someone's face is playing dirty.


So Stew 2 hand pushing/holding LeBron was just playing hard? Got it.

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