Nuntius wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:Nuntius wrote:
Would your mental health have been affected differently if you had signed a contract, though? I don't think that it would.
My point here isn't that Simmons is in the right in this situation. My point is that his agent including that he wants to be traded isn't proof that he isn't suffering from mental health issues. That's what I was replying to.
The difference here is that I can directly respond to you about the presumption: The simple answer here is that I don't exactly know how my mental health would have been affected had I been bound to work at that place by a contract. Could I have a meltdown? Maybe. Could I just bottle it up inside and see what avenues I have at my disposal to get out of the contract? I suppose. There's a whole litany of things that could be decided. To make an assumption about me given that you don't know me any more than you think you know Simmons is pretty laughable. If you want to know something in MY specific case, all you need to do is ask. You have that luxury; however, with Simmons, all we can do is speculate.
I am sorry but I didn't make any kind of assumption. I did ask you whether that would have affected you differently, hence the question mark at the end of my very first sentence. I never claimed that I know anything about you or Simmons.
Edit: If it's the "I don't think that it would" part that you saw an assumption then I sincerely apologize for it. I didn't mean it as an assumption at all. That's just what I've heard mental health professionals say when it comes to mental health issues but since I'm not a professional, I shouldn't have added it in my post.SkyBill40 wrote:Simmons didn't air the bit about mental health until well after all of this came to light insofar as I recall. Had his mental health been as big a talking point as it has come to be known, it would have been at the forefront of the trade request. It wasn't.
Your timeline isn't accurate. Based on the NBPA, Simmons has been working with their mental health professionals ever since the summer and that was well before all the fines started. The fact that Simmons didn't tell the press about it in the summer doesn't mean anything. No one is forced to disclose whether they've sought mental health help or not.SkyBill40 wrote:Simmons is fine to REQUEST a trade privately with the team; he has zero leverage to demand one and doing so publicly, regardless of any diagnosis of mental illness or whatever, is only going to get him in trouble with the league and cause teams to be highly wary of him. Even if he does end up having a valid case, he should have handled the situation more rationally and thoughtfully as an adult given the repercussions.
Meh. Whatevs, man. It is what it is. Whoever gets him is going to have their hands full given I don't personally think it's going to end should he be traded somewhere else.
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Based on everything we know, he did request a trade privately around the same time he started seeking mental health help. That request wasn't met so this whole saga started. Again, I'm not saying that he is in the right or anything of that sort but the way that people have generally talked about his mental health is pretty abhorrent.
If your looking at it from that angle then his just free loading money from the team. I just,ve never heard such thing in sports over petty comments that was said to the media to be blown out of proportions. If he really does have mental illness from that he shouldn't play this sport.
