Wiggins just ended Doncic's life

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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#141 » by Clay Davis » Mon May 23, 2022 2:00 pm

alevirfe wrote:
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alevirfe wrote:does one big game really makeup for a disappointing career? seems like a bit of an overreaction and I wouldn't be surprised if the doubters have the last laugh here

Wiggins is in the tough position of having to live up to the expectations that come with being a #1 pick (and egregious contract). even if he's become a solid starter & contributor, he's always be underperforming in many people's eyes

15/6.6/1.6 on 56% TS for the playoffs

Wiggins has been the most consistent player for the Warriors in this post season. Why are you looking at his offensive output when it's his defense and rebounding which are his main focus? He's only the 4th option on offense so I believe he's giving them a lot more than what's expected offensively. And he is delivering on both.


sure, but a player at his salary that carries the #1 pick stigma should be doing much more than playing defense & rebounding if we're going to reevaluate his "bust" status. this is a pretty low bar IMO
Saying he should be more than the fourth option on a team with one of the best offensive players ever, one of the greatest shooters ever, and the primary ball-handler on the best regular season player ever is too high of a bar.

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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#142 » by FNQ » Mon May 23, 2022 2:05 pm

lol never been a big fan of the guy because he's the typical metrics chaser IMO - look at metric, create the "why" based on that answer - but lots of stones being thrown from inside glass houses
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#143 » by og15 » Mon May 23, 2022 2:05 pm

TravisScott55 wrote:Wiggins is going to completely beast it next season.

He's not going to do anything different. Wiggins is good right now because he's playing inside his role, him trying to beast it, if that means trying to do more would not be beneficial.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#144 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Mon May 23, 2022 2:05 pm

Marc Davis is easily top 3 worst ref in this league. He always wants to make it about him. Clown just like Scott Foster
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#145 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Mon May 23, 2022 2:06 pm

Archx wrote::)

Read on Twitter

Wow great reply tbh! Respect!
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#146 » by srhcan » Mon May 23, 2022 2:28 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Different angle

Read on Twitter

Luka flopped, Wiggins most likely never touched Luka's face which he showed getting hurt on
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#147 » by alevirfe » Mon May 23, 2022 2:36 pm

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alevirfe wrote:
multo wrote:Wiggins has been the most consistent player for the Warriors in this post season. Why are you looking at his offensive output when it's his defense and rebounding which are his main focus? He's only the 4th option on offense so I believe he's giving them a lot more than what's expected offensively. And he is delivering on both.


sure, but a player at his salary that carries the #1 pick stigma should be doing much more than playing defense & rebounding if we're going to reevaluate his "bust" status. this is a pretty low bar IMO
Saying he should be more than the fourth option on a team with one of the best offensive players ever, one of the greatest shooters ever, and the primary ball-handler on the best regular season player ever is too high of a bar.

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I'm responding to people saying Wiggins is now a good player because he's putting up 15 points & playing defense on the Warriors. I think many saw a brighter future for Wiggins & his production doesn't match up to his salary
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#148 » by AbeVigodaLive » Mon May 23, 2022 2:36 pm

Imagine an uber talented and athletic basketball player forced to take on too much responsibility in arguably the worst situation for the league's worst franchise... and joining arguably the league's best franchise with a clearcut simplified role as a complementary player alongside three HOF teammates.

And he's doing better in that role?

NO WAY!!!!!




[Note: Good for Wiggins. And for the Warriors for that deal. By the way, back in the day, Wiggins had a couple of awesome dunks like that vs. Rudy Gobert... before he basically stopped trying to dunk at all at the end of his Wolves career.]
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#149 » by leolozon » Mon May 23, 2022 2:37 pm

srhcan wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Different angle

Read on Twitter

Luka flopped, Wiggins most likely never touched Luka's face which he showed getting hurt on


"Most likely"... But "Luka flopped"... Weird how you can be unsure of one thing, but sure of the other.

1- Luka was hit.
2- The last angle shows Wiggins' hand close to Luka's chin.
3- It's not even clear if Doncic was holding his neck or his chin. The shot on the ground shows that he lowers his hand toward his neck.
4- Doncic was up in around 5 seconds.

How can you say that you're not sure if Wiggins touched Luka's chin or not, and then say that Luka flopped? It's just weird. Even more considering that it's no even clear if he is holding his face as his hand keeps lowering.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#150 » by Soulyss » Mon May 23, 2022 2:44 pm

That dunk was a career of underachieving angst all bottled up into one dunk.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#151 » by Soulyss » Mon May 23, 2022 2:44 pm

and to be clear. No Foul. Luka is on a poster... forever... Let's move on.
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Post#152 » by SpreeS » Mon May 23, 2022 2:48 pm

leolozon wrote:
srhcan wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Different angle

Read on Twitter

Luka flopped, Wiggins most likely never touched Luka's face which he showed getting hurt on


"Most likely"... But "Luka flopped"... Weird how you can be unsure of one thing, but sure of the other.

1- Luka was hit.
2- The last angle shows Wiggins' hand close to Luka's chin.
3- It's not even clear if Doncic was holding his neck or his chin. The shot on the ground shows that he lowers his hand toward his neck.
4- Doncic was up in around 5 seconds.

How can you say that you're not sure if Wiggins touched Luka's chin or not, and then say that Luka flopped? It's just weird. Even more considering that it's no even clear if he is holding his face as his hand keeps lowering.


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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#153 » by stillgotgame » Mon May 23, 2022 2:50 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Archx wrote::)

Read on Twitter

Wow great reply tbh! Respect!


Anyone ask him why he snapped his head back when Wiggins elbow brushed his throat?
Luka was eager to get out of questions for this dunk.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#154 » by CM17 » Mon May 23, 2022 2:57 pm

I remember when Griffin dunked on Gasol, the refs didn't call an offensive foul. And that one was clearly more iffy than this one.

NIce. I need a slow-mo version with Placido Domingo singing Tosca to it. :winkgrin:
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#155 » by TravisScott55 » Mon May 23, 2022 3:00 pm

og15 wrote:
TravisScott55 wrote:Wiggins is going to completely beast it next season.

He's not going to do anything different. Wiggins is good right now because he's playing inside his role, him trying to beast it, if that means trying to do more would not be beneficial.


He's a confidence player, and his IQ is getting better playing on the Warriors. I think he will have the best season his career next year.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#156 » by CS707 » Mon May 23, 2022 3:01 pm

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alevirfe wrote:
multo wrote:Wiggins has been the most consistent player for the Warriors in this post season. Why are you looking at his offensive output when it's his defense and rebounding which are his main focus? He's only the 4th option on offense so I believe he's giving them a lot more than what's expected offensively. And he is delivering on both.


sure, but a player at his salary that carries the #1 pick stigma should be doing much more than playing defense & rebounding if we're going to reevaluate his "bust" status. this is a pretty low bar IMO
Saying he should be more than the fourth option on a team with one of the best offensive players ever, one of the greatest shooters ever, and the primary ball-handler on the best regular season player ever is too high of a bar.

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Technically speaking he's a 3rd option and 2nd option in this series.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#157 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon May 23, 2022 3:03 pm

I always hated the need to demoralize the player getting dunked on. Like why do we focus on making fun of a player contesting a shot instead of the athleticism of the player making the dunk. I swear this board would rather have a player not contest a shot so they aren't embarrassed. Give me the futile block attempt over a guy standing and watching 10 out of 10 times.
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Post#158 » by Myth » Mon May 23, 2022 3:12 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I always hated the need to demoralize the player getting dunked on. Like why do we focus on making fun of a player contesting a shot instead of the athleticism of the player making the dunk. I swear this board would rather have a player not contest a shot so they aren't embarrassed. Give me the futile block attempt over a guy standing and watching 10 out of 10 times.

Agreed. The exception is an important player in foul trouble simply not finding it worth the risk of another foul.
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Post#159 » by DonaldSanders » Mon May 23, 2022 3:19 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I always hated the need to demoralize the player getting dunked on. Like why do we focus on making fun of a player contesting a shot instead of the athleticism of the player making the dunk. I swear this board would rather have a player not contest a shot so they aren't embarrassed. Give me the futile block attempt over a guy standing and watching 10 out of 10 times.



Agreed, I just think Doncic flopping and the refs buying it at first is earning Luka a bit of criticism. Flop and we shall roast ye.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#160 » by Clay Davis » Mon May 23, 2022 3:20 pm

alevirfe wrote:
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alevirfe wrote:
sure, but a player at his salary that carries the #1 pick stigma should be doing much more than playing defense & rebounding if we're going to reevaluate his "bust" status. this is a pretty low bar IMO
Saying he should be more than the fourth option on a team with one of the best offensive players ever, one of the greatest shooters ever, and the primary ball-handler on the best regular season player ever is too high of a bar.

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I'm responding to people saying Wiggins is now a good player because he's putting up 15 points & playing defense on the Warriors. I think many saw a brighter future for Wiggins & his production doesn't match up to his salary

Ya, people calling him "Maple Jordan" were setting themselves up for disappointment. There's plenty of players who are grossly overpaid but I wouldn't say that Wiggins is one of them; he's a bonafide contributor playing a key role on the best team (imo) currently in the play-offs.
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