Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

mateos · Post #141 » by **mateos** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:51 am

So if i sum up you guys posts it will be like:

FRANCE
PG) Thomas Heurtel / Theo Maledon / Andrew Albicy
SG) Élie Okobo / Frank Ntilikina / Isaia Cordinier
SF) Evan Fournier / Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot / William Howard / Terry Tarpey
PF) Guerschon Yabusele / Victor Wembanyama / Amath M'Baye
C) Rudy Gobert / Vincent Poirier / Moustapha Fall / Mouhammadou Jaiteh

GERMANY
PG. Dennis Schröder / Maodo Lo
SG. Andreas Obst / Kenneth Ogbe
SF. Franz Wagner / Niels Giffey
PF. Johannes Voigtmann / Robin Benzing
C. Daniel Theis / Moritz Wagner

ITALY
PG. Nico Mannion / Marco Spissu / Stefano Tonut / Alessandro Pajola / Amedeo Della Valle
SG. Tommaso Baldasso / Gabriele Procida / Matteo Spagnolo / John Petrucelli
SF. Achille Polonara / Luigi DaTome / Simone Fontecchio
PF. Danilo Gallinari / Nicolo Melli / Giampaolo Ricci
C. Paul Biligha / Amedeo Tessitori

LITHUANIA
5/4 Jonas Valančiūnas, Laurynas Birutis, Martynas Echodas, Domantas Sabonis, Gytis Masiulis,
4/3 Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Eigirdas Žukauskas, Gediminas Orelikas,
3/2 Arnas Butkevičius, Ignas Brazdeikis, Rokas Giedraitis, Marius Grigonis, Tomas Dimša,
1 Rokas Jokubaitis, Lukas Lekavičius, Kristupas Žemaitis

SERBIA
PG. Vasilije Micić / Miloš Teodosić / Nemanja Nedović
SG. Marko Gudurić / Ognjen Jaramaz / Vanja Marinković / Aleksa Avramović
SF. Vladimir Lučić / Nikola Kalinić / Ognjen Dobrić / Dejan Davidovac / Nikola Jović
PF. Nemanja Bjelica / Alen Smailagic / Aleksej Pokuševski / Filip Petrusev / Marko Jagodić-Kuridža / Boriša Simanić
C. Nikola Jokić / Nikola Milutinov / Balša Koprivica / Dušan Ristić

TURKEY
Shane Larkin (Anadolu Efes)
Furkan Korkmaz ( Philadelphia 76ers)
Cedi Osman ( Cleveland Cavaliers)
Alperen Sengun ( Houston Rockets)
Omer Yurtseven (Miami Heat)

Post #142 » by **165bows** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:53 am

Did Israel qualify for this tournament or no?

Greek · Post #143 » by **Greek** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:24 am

Giannis officially playing for Greece. I guess that we will have 3 Ande Sloukas Papapetrou Papagiannis Larentzakis Calathes as our main core. Athletic team with great D, but as always bad 3pt.

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mpoo_sin · Post #144 » by **mpoo_sin** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:25 am

-Luke- wrote:
mpoo_sin wrote:What??
Why the hell is Kleber not playing? I doubt he wasn t nominated...but i also find it hard to believe that he did not want to play...

Translation from German website basketball.de:
Maxi Kleber will also not be available this summer: "After two exhausting years marked by the pandemic with only short summer breaks, I will use this summer to get a break mentally and physically,"

So he really did not want to play....
Strange decision. It would have been his last Eurobasket as an important piece. Next time around he will be old.

Thanks for the info!

Pachinko_ · Post #145 » by **Pachinko_** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:33 am

Greek wrote:Giannis officially playing for Greece. I guess that we will have 3 Ande Sloukas Papapetrou Papagiannis Larentzakis Calathes as our main core. Athletic team with great D, but as always bad 3pt.

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At least we have a good coach this time

CharityStripe34 · Post #146 » by **CharityStripe34** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:23 pm

Greek wrote:Giannis officially playing for Greece. I guess that we will have 3 Ande Sloukas Papapetrou Papagiannis Larentzakis Calathes as our main core. Athletic team with great D, but as always bad 3pt.

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I would assume Papanikolaou will also play. He's still pretty good.

UcanUwill · Post #147 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:07 pm

165bows wrote:Did Israel qualify for this tournament or no?

Yes, Israel qualified. I will post the link to all the groups, they got a pretty good draw, Serbia is overwhelming favorite in the group, then I guess Czechs are second, but everyone else in that group is very much beatable (group D : Serbia, Czech republic, Israel, Finland, Poland, Netherlands).

https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/groups

Greek · Post #148 » by **Greek** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:44 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:
Greek wrote:Giannis officially playing for Greece. I guess that we will have 3 Ande Sloukas Papapetrou Papagiannis Larentzakis Calathes as our main core. Athletic team with great D, but as always bad 3pt.

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I would assume Papanikolaou will also play. He's still pretty good.

Correct, i forgot him

mateos · Post #149 » by **mateos** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:57 am

UcanUwill wrote:
165bows wrote:Did Israel qualify for this tournament or no?

Yes, Israel qualified. I will post the link to all the groups, they got a pretty good draw, Serbia is overwhelming favorite in the group, then I guess Czechs are second, but everyone else in that group is very much beatable (group D : Serbia, Czech republic, Israel, Finland, Poland, Netherlands).

https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/groups

Group B looks pretty much crazy tough group to me... which made me sorry for group A teams because it will be A1-B4, A2-B3 exc.. next round.

So an early guess from me

A1 Spain - Germany B4
A2 Turkey - Lithuania B3
A3 Georgia - Slovenia B2
A4 Montenegro - France B1
C1 Greece - Israel D4
C2 Italy - Poland D3
C3 Croatia - Czech R D2
C4 Ukraine - Serbia D1

Slovenia - Greece
Spain - Croatia
France - Italy
Lithuania - Serbia

Slovenia - Spain
France - Serbia

Slovenia
Serbia

As far as I see finishing group A first place is so important. A very nice way to go all the way to semi finals. As i am Turkish i hope we will take it seriously from group stage and give our all.

-Luke- · Post #150 » by **-Luke-** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:16 am

mpoo_sin wrote:
-Luke- wrote:
mpoo_sin wrote:What??
Why the hell is Kleber not playing? I doubt he wasn t nominated...but i also find it hard to believe that he did not want to play...

Translation from German website basketball.de:
Maxi Kleber will also not be available this summer: "After two exhausting years marked by the pandemic with only short summer breaks, I will use this summer to get a break mentally and physically,"

So he really did not want to play....
Strange decision. It would have been his last Eurobasket as an important piece. Next time around he will be old.

Thanks for the info!

I think KhalilS is spot-on. It's a contract year and he'll be a 31 year old role player next summer, so that's his last chance of signing an above minimum contract. If my memory doesn't fail me, Kleber never played better than Voigtmann for the national team anyway. But he would have been important, of course.

styLesdavis · Post #151 » by **styLesdavis** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:44 am

-Luke- wrote:
mpoo_sin wrote:
-Luke- wrote:Translation from German website basketball.de:

So he really did not want to play....
Strange decision. It would have been his last Eurobasket as an important piece. Next time around he will be old.

Thanks for the info!

I think KhalilS is spot-on. It's a contract year and he'll be a 31 year old role player next summer, so that's his last chance of signing an above minimum contract. If my memory doesn't fail me, Kleber never played better than Voigtmann for the national team anyway. But he would have been important, of course.

On fiba level Voigtmann is the way more versatile player as he is able to dribble und pass the ball on a very high level. He simply is one of the best bigs in europe at it. Kleber mainly is a 3-and-D guy and a best on the defensive end - of course we could have used him at Eurobasket but we still have a steller lineup in the frontcourt even without Kleber, Hartenstein, Pleiss, Barthel and Da Silva.

NBA4Lyfe · Post #152 » by **NBA4Lyfe** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:00 am

Nuntius wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:Betting odds according to BWin:

Serbia +350
France/Slovenia +450
Greece +500
Spain +900
Lithuania +1100

I have no idea why we (Greece) have such good odds here. I don't think that we're going to be very good.

especially since FIBA rules will prohibit giannis from traveling and pushing off like he does in the NBA

CharityStripe34 · Post #153 » by **CharityStripe34** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:24 pm

Gianni will probably play more off-ball (pick-and-roll) and on the wings/block (posting up) a lot more than he was in 2019. I have a feeling Greece will look good, especially since now they have a legit very good coach. Greece's issue is a distinct lack of long-range shooting. But the defense/transition game will be really good.

LuDux1 · Post #154 » by **LuDux1** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:36 pm

mateos wrote:So if i sum up you guys posts it will be like:
LITHUANIA
5/4 Jonas Valančiūnas, Laurynas Birutis, Martynas Echodas, Domantas Sabonis, Gytis Masiulis,
4/3 Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Eigirdas Žukauskas, Gediminas Orelikas,
3/2 Arnas Butkevičius, Ignas Brazdeikis, Rokas Giedraitis (sf), Marius Grigonis, Tomas Dimša,
1 Rokas Jokubaitis, Lukas Lekavičius, Kristupas Žemaitis

In traditional, less fancy format
c: Jonas Valančiųnas, Domantas Sabonis, Laurynas Birutis, Martynas Echodas
pf: Mindaugas Kuzminskas (sf), Eigirdas Žukauskas, Gytis Masiulis, Gediminas Orelikas
sf: Ignas Brazdeikis, Arnas Butkevičius
sg: Marius Grigonis, Rokas Giedraitis (sf), Tomas Dimša
pg: Rokas Jokubaitis, Lukas Lekavičius, Kristupas Žemaitis

Swuul · Post #155 » by **Swuul** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:59 pm

For anybody interested, the FIBA power-ranking for the Top 12 European teams, as per the performance seen in the July 2022 FIBA World Cup qualifier round:
https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/european-qualifiers/news/power-rankings-how-do-the-european-teams-shape-up-after-the-first-round

UcanUwill · Post #156 » by **UcanUwill** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:12 pm

Croatia at it again, now trying to naturalize Jaleen Smith. Pathetic.

JohnWillow · Post #157 » by **JohnWillow** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:26 pm

Bosnia have no money to send the NT to Eurobasket! What happens if they withdraw? Next in line takes their place which would be Latvia or the group is left with 5 teams?

Greek · Post #158 » by **Greek** » Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:37 pm

Tyler Dorsey is also in for Greece. With Sloukas Papapetrou Papanikolaou Larentzakis and maybe Agravanis as a backup PF/C maybe we will have enough 3pt for the wall against Giannis.

I actually like our chances

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Post #159 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:26 pm

JohnWillow wrote:Bosnia have no money to send the NT to Eurobasket! What happens if they withdraw? Next in line takes their place which would be Latvia or the group is left with 5 teams?

That's weird!

bravor · Post #160 » by **bravor** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:37 pm

Bad news today for us,as french federation announced that Victor did not recover enough from his late injury with Asvel and he won't participate in the preparation for next Eurobasket

He won't be replaced in the team.

Who will win 2022 Eurobasket?