Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves

[Eagle4]

knicks should offer everything for him

With our luck, we'll offer everything for KD...but end up with nothing as usual.

Fixed

[sp6r=underrated]

GSW - again!

We don't want him.

If you hate the guy that much, maybe you should give back the two rings he helped you win.

Not wanting a guy back =/= hate.
And if you act like a jerk about your old workers you shouldn't be suprised their friends, or in this case fans, don't like you.

[CeltsfaninDC]

Oh he's a Sixer.

how?
how exactly does the Sixers trade for KD?

[TheNetsFan]

I don't buy it. I think KD will be upset if Kyrie walks & then Nets get nothing back, but ultimately KD wants to win. If the Nets can return some good pieces in a Kyrie S&T, they're likely better off.

Assuming I'm using Stamuse correctly:

KD+Kyrie without Harden = 19-15
KD without Kyrie = 32-14
solo KD without Kyrie and Harden = 10-3

Seems consistent with what Bostonians have been saying. Kyrie does not equate to winning. I'm not losing sleep over losing Irving. If we can get back something serviceable for him, we're fine. If KD does want and gets a trade, he'd be the best player I can remember locked up long term to ever get traded. It would have to be the richest return in history. KD also doesn't have a no trade clause, so unless he's willing to be a tantrum thrower in a locker room (has never been his style), the Nets would send him to any team that offered the best return.

Even if Kyrie walks for nothing, I still believe a healthy KD+Simmons+Harris+Curry+Claxton+Mills+full MLE... is a playoff caliber team. It may not be a title favorite, but it's a top 8 seed for sure.

[Dan Z]

The way Sean Marks has reshapped the roster since the Harden trade has been pretty surprising considering what he was doing prior.

Going from a really good gm to a really really Bad one.

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I think when the opportunity presented itself he tried to hit a "home run", but obviously it hasn't worked out.

If KD's foot is behind the line against Milwaukee how does that season turn out?

Depending on how Marks handles the Kyrie contract stuff he might still be a good GM.

[Ambrose]

Kyrie wanted out from LeBron's shadow.
Durant wanted to prove he didn't need Curry.
Kyrie and Durant team up.
LeBron wins another ring.
Curry wins another ring.
Kyrie and Durant achieve nothing, and may be on the move. Oof.

[Admiral-Kizaru]

I wonder if the media will give KD any criticism for being a mental dwarf and literally having no ability to cope with adversity at any moment in his career. It seems now that anytime things get tough or difficult, KD just bolts.

[taikibansei]

knicks should offer everything for him

With our luck, we'll offer everything for KD...but end up with nothing as usual.

Fixed

Uh....




(Here's a hint: As my other posts to this thread should have made clear, getting nothing would be far, far better than signing Kyrie. I.e., "getting Kyrie" was the worst case scenario....)

[sp6r=underrated]

If you hate the guy that much, maybe you should give back the two rings he helped you win.

Would have won them anyway. And I never said I hated him.

Then Draymond shouldn't have begged Durant to join them so they could take down the Lebron bully lol.

Wanting to continually improve your team does not mean thinking you can't win without the guy you are recruiting.

NBA fans totally misdirect their anger at the Durant-GSW signing and superteams in general. Superteams are a product of the max contract. Players will be joining each other's teams as long as superstars basically receive the same salary no matter where they sign.

[Dubnation]

I wonder if the media will give KD any criticism for being a mental dwarf and literally have no ability to cope with adversity at any moment in his career. It seems now that anytime things get tough or difficult, KD just bolts.

For the most part, I doubt it. KD is much too talented on the court. Of course, he'll have his detractors, but as far as the media is concerned, they'd be in the minority.

[SelfishPlayer]

KD needs to be reevaluated because he without a doubt is not a #1 on a championship team. So what are you trading to receive and how many more years does he have at that level?

[JujitsuFlip]

Yes, Brooklyn deserves to return to irrelevance and be forced to earn it the right way.

Marks really has to feel dumb getting all his picks back just to lose em again.

[sp6r=underrated]

They really went from harden Kyrie and kd looking unbeatable to this. It’s crazy how bad the nets blew it.

There are times when management blows it. OKC 2012 off-season is a good example. But this isn't of em. Kyrie quite frankly is a livewire and he detoinated the last couple of seasons. Not much more than that

[SelfishPlayer]

Yes, Brooklyn deserves to return to irrelevance and be forced to earn it the right way.

Marks really has to feel dumb getting all his picks back just to lose em again.

Brooklyn needs to start over by firing their GM. He traded away Allen to appease Jordan.

[Archerbro]

Who could have predicted this ending badly?

I said there was a good chance the Nets would implode due to Kyrie. Here we are.

yea there were definitely a minority (myself too) who said the whole DJ, Kyrie, KD was not without risk.
there was risk because DJ was washed even back then (he's a corpse now), KD was coming off an achilles injury, and Kyrie was always a headcase.

I think the nets made the right moves to take the risk, but it's looking likely it isn't going where though had predicted.

[Archerbro]

What they call leverage I call a free get out of jail card.

Teams are often afraid to admit mistakes and/or deal with fan backlash of trading away stars. This can give them the nudge they need to pull the trigger on a rebuild before the ship sinks any further.

Rebuild just means be bad. I don't know why so many people on this board like it. The vast majority of rebuilding teams never become contenders. And for every 1 contender you produce you get a Knicks or Kings who stay in the gutter for years. It is something to avoid.


The Nets like the Lakers have some real problems but both have major pieces that could contribute to a title caliber team. Blowing it up in hopes of building a better team in 2028 is foolish. Both clubs are right to try to turn things around.

i think it's because the ability to dream of drafting a guy always beats mediocrity/continual first round exits.
first round exits get really old after a while where fans know their team is good to make the playoffs but not talented enough to contend.

but you're definitely right, it's not as easy it sounds to just tank, a lot of luck has to happen along the way.

[Phystic]

If impossible for Suns to mend relationship with Ayton, well this is certainly an intriguing opportunity

[JShuttlesworth]

Durant is such a bum

I used to love him, can't stand him now

[CP War Hawks]

I'd reckon Atl will have the assets to make this happen if it comes down to it.

[NZB2323]

Brooklyn has to give Kyrie the max to save this situation. I’m not the biggest Kyrie fan but they really have no other choice.