How strong are the Cavs now?

[TheLand13]

One thing people need to keep in mind also is that Cleveland is set to still have about 30 million in cap space after this upcoming season. That's plenty of rim for them to use to get a pretty decent 3 and D player to fill in the SF spot. Someone in another thread suggested they should go after Wiggins. I don't know how plausible that is, but if they somehow manage to make that happen... good luck to the teams in the East.

Actually they could have about $22mil in capspace next summer after acquiring Don and trading out the contracts of Lauri+Agbaji.
If they pick up Okoro's $9mil 4th year option that will cut into the capspace as well.

Hmm. I doubt they can land someone like Wiggins with that kind of space. But thankfully, a player of that caliber isn't necessary for postseason success. Any decent three and D player at SF is more than sufficient. And if Okoro can develop a three point shot (and he proved he could at the very least improve in that regard), then they won't even need to do that.

[DowJones]

Cleveland could easily send out Cedi (1 year left at about $7 million) to free up around $30 million in cap space. I would like to see Cleveland target Cam Johnson. Maybe a sign and trade where the Cavs get Johnson and Phoenix gets back Okoro, Cedi, and a few 2nd rounders.

[mg]

One thing people need to keep in mind also is that Cleveland is set to still have about 30 million in cap space after this upcoming season. That's plenty of rim for them to use to get a pretty decent 3 and D player to fill in the SF spot. Someone in another thread suggested they should go after Wiggins. I don't know how plausible that is, but if they somehow manage to make that happen... good luck to the teams in the East.

Actually they could have about $22mil in capspace next summer after acquiring Don and trading out the contracts of Lauri+Agbaji.
If they pick up Okoro's $9mil 4th year option that will cut into the capspace as well.

Hmm. I doubt they can land someone like Wiggins with that kind of space. But thankfully, a player of that caliber isn't necessary for postseason success. Any decent three and D player at SF is more than sufficient. And if Okoro can develop a three point shot (and he proved he could at the very least improve in that regard), then they won't even need to do that.

Is there a modern day Trevor Ariza type available? That's basically what they should be looking for at the wing.
I'm a little doubtful of Okoro. In addition to passing up way too many open shots, he has really struggled to defend bigger wings.

[mg]

Cleveland could easily send out Cedi (1 year left at about $7 million) to free up around $30 million in cap space. I would like to see Cleveland target Cam Johnson. Maybe a sign and trade where the Cavs get Johnson and Phoenix gets back Okoro, Cedi, and a few 2nd rounders.

Osman is basically an expiring contract. His salary for next season is unguaranteed. How does sending him out free up money for next summer?

[TheLand13]

Actually they could have about $22mil in capspace next summer after acquiring Don and trading out the contracts of Lauri+Agbaji.
If they pick up Okoro's $9mil 4th year option that will cut into the capspace as well.

Hmm. I doubt they can land someone like Wiggins with that kind of space. But thankfully, a player of that caliber isn't necessary for postseason success. Any decent three and D player at SF is more than sufficient. And if Okoro can develop a three point shot (and he proved he could at the very least improve in that regard), then they won't even need to do that.

Is there a modern day Trevor Ariza type available? That's basically what they should be looking for at the wing.
I'm a little doubtful of Okoro. In addition to passing up way too many open shots, he has really struggled to defend bigger wings.

Okoro is also only 21 years old... I'm not going to put too much stock into the idea that he has struggled to defend bigger wings. I'm more concerned about his ability to develop a consistent three point shot. If he can do that, then he'll be a very valuable player for the Cavaliers.

[mg]

Cavs could potentially look at packaging LeVert + 2nd's (or Levert+ Okoro, Cedi) and try to find a wing player on a disappointing team at the deadline. Maybe some team will be looking to dump a contract by that point or looking to trade a wing they will lose in FA? I don't believe the Cavs have enough for Cam Johnson and doubt PHX would even trade him while they are trying to compete with CP3. Unfortunately just about every team in the league is looking to add solid 3&D wings although Cam Johnson really isn't too good at the D part.

[mg]

Hmm. I doubt they can land someone like Wiggins with that kind of space. But thankfully, a player of that caliber isn't necessary for postseason success. Any decent three and D player at SF is more than sufficient. And if Okoro can develop a three point shot (and he proved he could at the very least improve in that regard), then they won't even need to do that.

Is there a modern day Trevor Ariza type available? That's basically what they should be looking for at the wing.
I'm a little doubtful of Okoro. In addition to passing up way too many open shots, he has really struggled to defend bigger wings.

Okoro is also only 21 years old... I'm not going to put too much stock into the idea that he has struggled to defend bigger wings. I'm more concerned about his ability to develop a consistent three point shot. If he can do that, then he'll be a very valuable player for the Cavaliers.

Of course Okoro should get better and developing a consistent 3 pt shot is crucial for him.
Honestly he only looks like he's about 6'-4". I don't think he's going to grow anymore at this point.

[TheLand13]

Is there a modern day Trevor Ariza type available? That's basically what they should be looking for at the wing.
I'm a little doubtful of Okoro. In addition to passing up way too many open shots, he has really struggled to defend bigger wings.

Okoro is also only 21 years old... I'm not going to put too much stock into the idea that he has struggled to defend bigger wings. I'm more concerned about his ability to develop a consistent three point shot. If he can do that, then he'll be a very valuable player for the Cavaliers.

Of course Okoro should get better and developing a consistent 3 pt shot is crucial for him.
Honestly he only looks like he's about 6'-4". I don't think he's going to grow anymore at this point.

He's more along the lines of 6'6 than he is 6'4. But his official height is 6'5. That's fine for SF in this day and age.

[mcfly1204]

I've yet to come across any information that states Okoro is not 6'6". When you factor in his build, he's a good fit at SF.

[La Flame]

Very scary, but I’m also very high on Mobley. IMO he’s going to be a KG level player in his prime

Defensively I think so, but on offense - no way.

[Slim Charlez]

Depends on the development of Mobley and Garland. They definitely have the upside of being a top 3-4 team in the EC.

Lebron should’ve waited before signing that extension.

This. If they both can become perennial all stars then this team might be a contender in a year or two. They still need a perimeter defender but they're potentially scary good.

[PeteyPablo]

Cavs were in the top 10 defensively last year. They will be a competitive team this year. Give the Clippers a first round draft pick for Marcus Morris Sr. He can be your stretch 4 or 5. I believe he is set to make 16-18 Million this year.

[cupcakesnake]

Okoro is also only 21 years old... I'm not going to put too much stock into the idea that he has struggled to defend bigger wings. I'm more concerned about his ability to develop a consistent three point shot. If he can do that, then he'll be a very valuable player for the Cavaliers.

Of course Okoro should get better and developing a consistent 3 pt shot is crucial for him.
Honestly he only looks like he's about 6'-4". I don't think he's going to grow anymore at this point.

He's more along the lines of 6'6 than he is 6'4. But his official height is 6'5. That's fine for SF in this day and age.

He's very small on the wing. 6'6" in shoes with a 6'8.5" inch wingspan. You can be 6'6" if you have great length, but Okoro is firmly 2-guard sized in my opinion (decent size for a 2-guard though). I haven't done a thorough study, but I would guess most of the starter quality 3s in the NBA have 6'11" plus wingspans. The only guys I can think who are around that size and play the 3s full-time are maybe Dillon Brooks, Javonte Green, RJ Barrett, Josh Hart, and maybe Lu Dort if he's a 3 again this year. I'm not saying Okoro is too small to play the position, but he's going to be one of the smallest starting 3s in the NBA.

He's so much smaller than OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, De'Andre Hunter, DFS, Herb Jones, Covington, Batum, Nassir Little, Devin Vassel... and that's without getting into the stars like Paul George, Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Tatum,

[Duffman100]

I had them below or around the Raptors pre-trade.

Now I have them firmly above and in the top 4 of the East.

Raps are still strong and Barnes is more experienced now.
I could see the Raps ending up with a better record than the Cavs.

I hope not but I'm trying to be realistic.

Possible, I think so much depends on how Mitchell and Garland develop chemistry. What that looks like on both sides of the ball.

[TheLand13]

Of course Okoro should get better and developing a consistent 3 pt shot is crucial for him.
Honestly he only looks like he's about 6'-4". I don't think he's going to grow anymore at this point.

He's more along the lines of 6'6 than he is 6'4. But his official height is 6'5. That's fine for SF in this day and age.

He's very small on the wing. 6'6" in shoes with a 6'8.5" inch wingspan. You can be 6'6" if you have great length, but Okoro is firmly 2-guard sized in my opinion (decent size for a 2-guard though). I haven't done a thorough study, but I would guess most of the starter quality 3s in the NBA have 6'11" plus wingspans. The only guys I can think who are around that size and play the 3s full-time are maybe Dillon Brooks, Javonte Green, RJ Barrett, Josh Hart, and maybe Lu Dort if he's a 3 again this year. I'm not saying Okoro is too small to play the position, but he's going to be one of the smallest starting 3s in the NBA.

He's so much smaller than OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, De'Andre Hunter, DFS, Herb Jones, Covington, Batum, Nassir Little, Devin Vassel... and that's without getting into the stars like Paul George, Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Tatum,

6'11 wingspans? I'd have to look into that. But I remember reading somewhere recently that Wiggins has a 7'0 wingspan so you might be right. 6'8.5 is definitely pretty small for Okoro, and thus a pretty concerning fact that I have neglected.

[JXL]

A top-5 playoff team is their ceiling. They need a two-way SF to complete it, along with better depth on their bench.

[Mr Loggins]

Very scary, but I’m also very high on Mobley. IMO he’s going to be a KG level player in his prime

Defensively I think so, but on offense - no way.

he needs to just take 5000 corner threes a day.

[Mind_Odyssey]

Just wish KD was cool with playing in Cleveland….

[mcfly1204]

He's more along the lines of 6'6 than he is 6'4. But his official height is 6'5. That's fine for SF in this day and age.

He's very small on the wing. 6'6" in shoes with a 6'8.5" inch wingspan. You can be 6'6" if you have great length, but Okoro is firmly 2-guard sized in my opinion (decent size for a 2-guard though). I haven't done a thorough study, but I would guess most of the starter quality 3s in the NBA have 6'11" plus wingspans. The only guys I can think who are around that size and play the 3s full-time are maybe Dillon Brooks, Javonte Green, RJ Barrett, Josh Hart, and maybe Lu Dort if he's a 3 again this year. I'm not saying Okoro is too small to play the position, but he's going to be one of the smallest starting 3s in the NBA.

He's so much smaller than OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, De'Andre Hunter, DFS, Herb Jones, Covington, Batum, Nassir Little, Devin Vassel... and that's without getting into the stars like Paul George, Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Tatum,

6'11 wingspans? I'd have to look into that. But I remember reading somewhere recently that Wiggins has a 7'0 wingspan so you might be right. 6'8.5 is definitely pretty small for Okoro, and thus a pretty concerning fact that I have neglected.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to make a direct comparison as players here, but physically Okoro is Jimmy Butler.

6'6" 225lbs. with a 6'8" wingspan vs. 6'7" 230lbs. with a 6'8" wingspan

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

LeBron would look mighty dope at SF, just sayin'....