Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again?

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Who goes further in the postseason?

Sixers will go further
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Nuggets will go further
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Not sure
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#141 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:02 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:i mean Embiid hasn't done much in the playoffs either except doing the airplane. thats probably his career highlight(s) in the playoffs


The usual delusional raptors fan dont 4get his playoff game winner maybe tell fake star siakim to keep his elbows to himself.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#142 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:06 am

LessEyeTest wrote:
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Grow up dude. Jokic will soon be a 3xMVP.
3 consecutive times. With no stars around him.
That has nothing to do with conferences.
Jokic didn't even dress up against Giannis the other day. Because it doesn't matter. It's one game.
His playoffs appearances are better than his regular season but haters gonna hate i guess.

Some of you need to learn to appreciate greatness instead of being toxic for no reason.


His playoffs don't amount to much year in and year out. And the fact that he's a 2-time MVP, possibly going on 3, he should not be left off the hook. Lebron wasn't back in the early 00's despite him doing more with less than Jokic. Not sure why everyone is suddenly a Jokic fanatic now despite zero playoff successs. Also. There is nothing "toxic" about bringing light the short comings of your favorite guy. Perhaps you need to revalute the points in the OP instead of catching feelings .


Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#143 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:17 am

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DonaldSanders wrote:
Has a better shot of playing in the Finals than Embiid, so not too bad. :wink:


Lol no he doesn't. He's got a better shot of being out of the league, rather than going into the finals. I'd worry more about your Warriors even making the playoffs, instead of talking trash.



To me the Nets when healthy look like the better team.

And it's all good man, polishing 4 trophies in the last 8 seasons.

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I'd love to win again but I'm also quite happy.
Hopefully someday Embiid and Harden get up off the floor and realize their potential.

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Isnt that how poole was laying after draymond put him to sleep .Don't the warriors fight club have enough drama for you. You don't like Embiid and Harden who cares, stop trolling for attention it's sad
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#144 » by DonaldSanders » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:23 am

LessEyeTest wrote:Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


Took a single game? Since when is that a big deal? What am I letting sink in? This is a series Steph Curry returned from injury and was coming off the bench until the last game... one game man? Don't insult Jokic, his time will come.

Look Jokic is going to have some signature games and series over the course of his career, this I 100% believe, but it has not happened *yet*. This year absolutely could be his year! If we get knocked out I will be rooting for him to win it all with some big games, I'll be happy to shut up some of the people hating on him. But let's not grasp at straws here.

Jokic & Denver are going to be the #1/#2 seed, I think we'll see some big moments this year even if he doesn't win the chip (but he could also be Finals MVP).
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#145 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:33 am

phillynative wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:i mean Embiid hasn't done much in the playoffs either except doing the airplane. thats probably his career highlight(s) in the playoffs


The usual delusional raptors fan dont 4get his playoff game winner maybe tell fake star siakim to keep his elbows to himself.


Embiid getting conference playoff baskets, Siakam getting NBA finals baskets.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#146 » by LessEyeTest » Wed Feb 1, 2023 5:14 am

phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
Optms wrote:
His playoffs don't amount to much year in and year out. And the fact that he's a 2-time MVP, possibly going on 3, he should not be left off the hook. Lebron wasn't back in the early 00's despite him doing more with less than Jokic. Not sure why everyone is suddenly a Jokic fanatic now despite zero playoff successs. Also. There is nothing "toxic" about bringing light the short comings of your favorite guy. Perhaps you need to revalute the points in the OP instead of catching feelings .


Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#147 » by Pistol_Pete » Wed Feb 1, 2023 5:23 am

Jokic is a two time MVP.

Embiid will most likely never win one.

That’s all :wink:
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#148 » by rocketsfan100 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 5:37 am

This place will be intolerable but hilarious at the same time if the 76ers and Nuggets meet in the nba finals. Just the back and forth between the Jokic and Embiid Stans will be legendary
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#149 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Feb 1, 2023 5:39 am

reignfire wrote:Embiid has always been a far better player than Jokic. But Jokic is more durable and his playstyle allows for more consistency.


Embiid has looked great this year because he's found something that makes him more reliable: the mid range, especially off the screen. He kinda struggled against the Nets because that was taken away.


Damn, Embiid must be good, if he's way better than the guy winning the MVP every year. I didn't know he was that good. Even Eyetoma didn't tell me about that.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#150 » by Mephariel » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:06 am

Optms wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:The heat on Jokic will only increase with every non-title season.

Go get em Joker.

Not sure he has the guards to pull it off but if they fail they should get Mitchell or some other elite closer


Honestly, if he's as good as the hardware (Back to back MVP) indicates and advanced stat nerds say he is, than he has more than enough to carry the Nuggets to the Finals. Lebron carried JR Smith and a bunch of bums out of the East in 2018. As well as some other bums back in the late 00's.


But he is not as good as Lebron. That was never the question.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#151 » by Mephariel » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:18 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:This place will be intolerable but hilarious at the same time if the 76ers and Nuggets meet in the nba finals. Just the back and forth between the Jokic and Embiid Stans will be legendary


Maybe the first finals that is a must watch for me recently if that happens.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#152 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 10:07 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
phillynative wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:i mean Embiid hasn't done much in the playoffs either except doing the airplane. thats probably his career highlight(s) in the playoffs


The usual delusional raptors fan dont 4get his playoff game winner maybe tell fake star siakim to keep his elbows to himself.


Embiid getting conference playoff baskets, Siakam getting NBA finals baskets.


Kahwhi has hernias to this day from carrying that team. But lets act like Siakim was that guy :lol: .
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#153 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 10:15 am

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phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).


Neither were Allstars last year. James Harden is no longer a superstar lol Jamal Murray carried Jokic for a whole series in the playoffs something Embiid has never experienced even while dealing with injuries in multiple playoffs. Stop the cap
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#154 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 1, 2023 10:40 am

Pistol_Pete wrote:Jokic is a two time MVP.

Embiid will most likely never win one.

That’s all :wink:



Steve Nash won 2 before too. Over Shaq and Kobe
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Let's just hope both teams have a healthy playoff run and see where they end up even though the east is deeper .
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Post#155 » by LessEyeTest » Wed Feb 1, 2023 10:55 am

phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
phillynative wrote:
The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).


Neither were Allstars last year. James Harden is no longer a superstar lol Jamal Murray carried Jokic for a whole series in the playoffs something Embiid has never experienced even while dealing with injuries in multiple playoffs. Stop the cap


Hardens advanced stats say he’s still a superstar, thus he is. Your opinion on whether he is or isn’t doesn’t matter. Hence, my username homie.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#156 » by LessEyeTest » Wed Feb 1, 2023 11:12 am

phillynative wrote:
Pistol_Pete wrote:Jokic is a two time MVP.

Embiid will most likely never win one.

That’s all :wink:



Steve Nash won 2 before too. Over Shaq and Kobe
:wink:

Let's just hope both teams have a healthy playoff run and see where they end up even though the east is deeper .


This is a disingeniuous argument and I hope you're trolling.

Jokic isn't comparable to Nash, he's comparable to Larry Bird and/or Magic Johnson. I posted about that yesterday in a thread too. He sees massive upticks for all his averages in the playoffs which means he's coasting his way to MVPs left and right lol. Career 20/10/6.5 whose numbers increase to 26.5/11.5/6.5.

Embiid is not comparable to Kobe and Shaq either. He sees massive downticks in all his averages meaning he shrinks during the playoffs. Career 27/11/3.5 guy whose numbers fall to 24/11/3 in the playoffs (and I'm being nice and bumping the numbers up).

If we want to make terrible comparisons to troll each other - which okay whatever - then how about this one?

Jokic is the modern Tim Duncan. Not in play style but in terms of impact and the uptick during the playoffs. Plus, Duncan and Hakeem's favorite player. ;)

Embiid is like the modern Chris Webber. Puts up gaudy numbers in the regular season, shrinks during the playoffs. Plus, his hero isn't a big fan of him. :(

^ Note: It's a crappy argument (because I think Embiid gets better in the playoffs despite the numbers) but no crappier than the Nash / Jokic comparison and Embiid / Shaq or Kobe comparison.

Also, been a huge fan of Embiid since the spin move in Kansas. Just a bigger fan of Jokic because...Serbia lol.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#157 » by AleksandarN » Wed Feb 1, 2023 11:15 am

phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
phillynative wrote:
The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).


Neither were Allstars last year. James Harden is no longer a superstar lol Jamal Murray carried Jokic for a whole series in the playoffs something Embiid has never experienced even while dealing with injuries in multiple playoffs. Stop the cap


Huh? James was an all-star last year,
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#158 » by Zvaart » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:27 pm

I don't have a horse in this race, but if I'll have to pick one I'll pick the Joker. I think he is making his team-mates better with his court vison, his passing. More than Joel.
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Post#159 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 3:02 pm

LessEyeTest wrote:
phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).


Denver won a game 4 at home when they were down 3-0. This is pretty common/unremarkable. Many good players have lost a series 4-1 as the lone star of their team. Some have even won series or kept them competitive (like KD vs. a fully healthy bucks team 2 years ago with bruce brown as his number 2 for the last 3 games of that series, or iverson his whole career in philly, or westbrook his MVP year who won a game in the first round.)! Let that sink in.
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Re: Will Jokic get exposed these playoffs, again? 

Post#160 » by Lockdown504090 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 3:09 pm

LessEyeTest wrote:
phillynative wrote:
LessEyeTest wrote:
Kobe flamed out early (when he wasn’t missing the playoffs) as the only star. Meanwhile he was playing with guys like Odom.

Jokic took the Nuggets to the playoffs with Aaron Gordon and Will Barton and took a game off the eventual champs. Let that sink in.


The Blazers , Rockets and Heat did too. Point?


Jokic single-handedly took a game. As in the rest of his team would barely be favorites to win a G-league title without him. The point

He doesn't have another all-star on his team, let alone a superstar (Harden) and budding all-star (Maxey).

Harden is a superstar? Gordon is better than maxey and it’s going to be hard to make a coherent argument against this.

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