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Drygon wrote:There were multiple trades with a bunch of 2nd rounders which were a new currency. No blockbuster deals after the KD deal, but several role players moving around. Which teams came out the winners and which teams messed it up?
Also which teams played it wrong by not making moves at all?
ChumboChappati wrote:Drygon wrote:There were multiple trades with a bunch of 2nd rounders which were a new currency. No blockbuster deals after the KD deal, but several role players moving around. Which teams came out the winners and which teams messed it up?
Also which teams played it wrong by not making moves at all?
The biggest loser is Toronto Raptors, there is no doubt. The biggest winner looks like Dallas Mavericks / Pheonix Suns
BigGargamel wrote:Raptors are huge losers. Not only did they not trade any upcoming free agents, but they added another one LOL
John wall being traded back to the rockets is absolutely hilarious.
The NBA front office clearly sent a memo to the rest of the league demanding they help their precious Lebron and lakers get back into the playoffs, or else. They got an entire new bench for nothing.
To be honest, I think the collection 1yr contracts were worth a FRP. Conley is a borderline starter, but he was taking minutes from Sexton and other young PGs. Beasley and Vando are a bit inconsistent for my taste, so I don't really mind moving them, especially if we weren't really thinking of resigning them. NAW is a free agent this summer, I figure we didnt have intentions of resigning him. These moves give Sexton and Agbaji more minutes, and the 2027 FRP from the Lakers could end up being very good.Liam_Gallagher wrote:I thought Utah was a loser. They traded Conley, a 2nd, Beasley, and Vanderbilt and only got one first back along with Westbrook. Detroit also kind of lost by not trading Bojan for anything.
NickAnderson wrote:
How old are you, just curious.
by gomeziee on 21 Jul 2013 00:53
im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.
Ito wrote:Lakers lost.. they got worse unless they expectin Bron to drop 30+ every game
Liam_Gallagher wrote:I thought Utah was a loser. They traded Conley, a 2nd, Beasley, and Vanderbilt and only got one first back along with Westbrook. Detroit also kind of lost by not trading Bojan for anything.
formula 400 wrote:DonaldSanders wrote:tarantism wrote:Suns are the clear winners, for obvious reasons.
Warriors are losers to me. Sure GP2 is an upgrade to Wiseman but he makes too much money. Not to mention that GSW did nothing to catch the teams above them and a few teams passed them. These guys are done.
I'm surprised you're saying this (and the other folks listing the Warriors as deadline losers). GPII instantly makes us better over Wiseman, and we may still get someone in the buyout market.
Maybe I'm a GPII homer, but if we had a healthy GPII the whole season I think you might view the team differently. We lost some really close games and easily could be 32-23 as the #3 seed or 30-25 as the #4 seed if we had his defense/spark.
I know other teams have upgraded, but there's no guarantee they gel with 1/3 of the season left. I don't view us as favorites or anything, but this was the move that at gives us a chance now. Steph, Klay, Poole are all capable of getting hot and I think we are capable of beating any team now.
warriors are definite losers. it's not about getting gp. its the fact that warrior faithful said wiseman is the future and never was. alltime bust right there plus having meh trade makes them big losers.
One Last Shot wrote:formula 400 wrote:DonaldSanders wrote:
I'm surprised you're saying this (and the other folks listing the Warriors as deadline losers). GPII instantly makes us better over Wiseman, and we may still get someone in the buyout market.
Maybe I'm a GPII homer, but if we had a healthy GPII the whole season I think you might view the team differently. We lost some really close games and easily could be 32-23 as the #3 seed or 30-25 as the #4 seed if we had his defense/spark.
I know other teams have upgraded, but there's no guarantee they gel with 1/3 of the season left. I don't view us as favorites or anything, but this was the move that at gives us a chance now. Steph, Klay, Poole are all capable of getting hot and I think we are capable of beating any team now.
warriors are definite losers. it's not about getting gp. its the fact that warrior faithful said wiseman is the future and never was. alltime bust right there plus having meh trade makes them big losers.
Lol. GSW is the defending champs, won 4 rings, made the NBA Finals 6 times in the past 8 years and you call them big losers? What's your team and let's check who's the bigger loser?
infinite11285 wrote:Ito wrote:Lakers lost.. they got worse unless they expectin Bron to drop 30+ every game
Really? The Lakers added shooting, size, and youth, trimmed the payroll, and acquired some usable assets.
ACQUIRED:
D’Angelo Russell
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Jarred Vanderbilt
Malik Beasley
Davon Reed
3 second round picks
MOVED:
Russell Westbrook
Kendrick Nunn
Thomas Bryant
JTA
Damian Jones
Pat Bev
27’ FRP - Top 4 protected
4 second rounders
Updated Depth Chart:
PG: D’Angelo Russell, Dennis Schroder
SG: Malik Beasley, Austin Reaves, Lonnie Walker IV
SF: LeBron James, Max Christie, Troy Brown Jr.
PF: Anthony Davis, Rui Hachimura, Jarred Vanderbilt
C: Mo Bamba, Wenyen Gabriel
dautjazz wrote:To be honest, I think the collection 1yr contracts were worth a FRP. Conley is a borderline starter, but he was taking minutes from Sexton and other young PGs. Beasley and Vando are a bit inconsistent for my taste, so I don't really mind moving them, especially if we weren't really thinking of resigning them. NAW is a free agent this summer, I figure we didnt have intentions of resigning him. These moves give Sexton and Agbaji more minutes, and the 2027 FRP from the Lakers could end up being very good.Liam_Gallagher wrote:I thought Utah was a loser. They traded Conley, a 2nd, Beasley, and Vanderbilt and only got one first back along with Westbrook. Detroit also kind of lost by not trading Bojan for anything.
On another note, this move frees up a ton of cap space for us this summer, and we need to free up some roster spots with 3 FRPs in 2023. I don't care about the second round picks, we have 15 FRPs through 2019, we'll eventually have to deal of these as well.
The Bucks traded a young unplayable Nwora, 36 year old Hill, and 33 year old Ibaka for 32 year old Crowder.Agent 0 wrote:For me the Bucks are losers. They really needed to get younger and they’re out of assets
Nets did good for themselves getting 5 picks from an aging phoenix squad & getting Bridges back
Toronto probably should’ve cashed in OG
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I'm not so sure that Dallas is a BIG winner.dc wrote:Mavs were big winners. Dramatically increased their title shot w/o giving up a motherlode of assets. Suns are also winners going all in on a title as well, but they definitely gave up an eyewatering amount of assets.
Everybody else in comparison is pretty meh. Nets you can obviously call losers, but they had no choice but to blow it all up and at least they got assets back.
old skool wrote:I'm not so sure that Dallas is a BIG winner.dc wrote:Mavs were big winners. Dramatically increased their title shot w/o giving up a motherlode of assets. Suns are also winners going all in on a title as well, but they definitely gave up an eyewatering amount of assets.
Everybody else in comparison is pretty meh. Nets you can obviously call losers, but they had no choice but to blow it all up and at least they got assets back.
They added a ton of talent, but that added talent has not been translating into playoff success.
Irving is in his 12th NBA season and has only got his team into the playoffs 6 times. He has not advanced past the 2nd round since 2016-17. In the last 6 seasons he has wallowed in controversy on underachieving teams that were disappointing playoff exits. The addictive allure of Kyrie's highlight reel talent has not brought his team any meaningful playoff success since he forced his way out of Cleveland.